Big Pharma gaining ground on Grey?

[hotdog!]

I feel silly for impulse buying for no real legitimate reason but then the panic reasoning kicks in: I'd rather have some extra BAC water to throw out than have none when I need it for my 2 years' worth of peptides. I've always been a better safe than sorry type A.

 

[StonePny]

I feel silly for impulse buying for no real legitimate reason but then the panic reasoning kicks in: I'd rather have some extra BAC water to throw out than have none when I need it for my 2 years' worth of peptides. I've always been a better safe than sorry type A.

I think that makes perfect sense.

 

[keangkong]

So, i have recently learned that Hospira BAC water can now only be bought with a prescription! Smart move by big pharma. Other brands of BAC water are also being gone after i have heard (someone on another forum said some grey vendors have admitted that BAC water regulations are tightening)

I am also concerned about the tariff situation. I saw someone post that their product from overseas was seized and they are not getting another order.

Is anyone concerned that Grey--even overseas---MAY be coming to an end?

Am i just paranoid?

thoughts? comments?

What I heard, and what I experienced during my one purchase of 25 vials of Hospira BAC water, is that the medical supply places will state that a person must upload their medical license in order to purchase the BAC water but that they don't enforce this. I believe I recall reading that Janoshik said that in the EU, folks use sterile water and not BAC water because BAC water is unavailable. Don't ask me whether any peptides mixed with sterile water need to be used immediately. I'm pretty sure that sterile water means something other than distilled water.

 

[hexagonal]

You can always buy BA separately and add it to sterile water

 

[cldfront]

You can always buy BA separately and add it to sterile water

I like this. As a general rule, we are above average in resourcefulness type-of-group. We will find a way. Imma buy some more BAC too, though. 😄

 

[Batscout]

What I heard, and what I experienced during my one purchase of 25 vials of Hospira BAC water, is that the medical supply places will state that a person must upload their medical license in order to purchase the BAC water but that they don't enforce this. I believe I recall reading that Janoshik said that in the EU, folks use sterile water and not BAC water because BAC water is unavailable. Don't ask me whether any peptides mixed with sterile water need to be used immediately. I'm pretty sure that sterile water means something other than distilled water.

If a vial is a small amount of pep and will be used in only 1-2 injections, sterile water would likely be fine because the mixed solution doesn’t sit in the vial a long time. If it is longer than that, I wouldn’t take the risk.

 

[pacer22]

AMSCO still has it available.

Bacteriostatic Water 30mL ABB3977-03 | AMSCO Medical

Bacteriostatic Water for Injection, USP is a sterile, nonpyrogenic preparation of water for injection rncontaining 0.9% (9 mg/mL) of benzyl alcohol added as a bacteriostatic preservative. ABB3977-03

amscomedical.com

 

[Batscout]

AMSCO still has it available.

Bacteriostatic Water 30mL ABB3977-03 | AMSCO Medical

Bacteriostatic Water for Injection, USP is a sterile, nonpyrogenic preparation of water for injection rncontaining 0.9% (9 mg/mL) of benzyl alcohol added as a bacteriostatic preservative. ABB3977-03

amscomedical.com

AMSCO still has it available.

Bacteriostatic Water 30mL ABB3977-03 | AMSCO Medical

Bacteriostatic Water for Injection, USP is a sterile, nonpyrogenic preparation of water for injection rncontaining 0.9% (9 mg/mL) of benzyl alcohol added as a bacteriostatic preservative. ABB3977-03

amscomedical.com

Price has increased from $75 to $112.

 

[Peloma]

Price has increased from $75 to $112.

Guess the figured out compounding is out, grey market is in...

 

[Batscout]

Guess the figured out compounding is out, grey market is in...

I think you are right.

 

[Batscout]

I'm stocking up on tirz and other peptides. I have 5 bottles of bac water. Now I'm thinking of just getting the whole box, just to have. This all becomes so addicting😄😄😄

It surely does. I started Labor Day of 2023 and barely a day has gone by since then when I have not thought of or spoken of GLP-1s in some way.

 

[Peloma]

It surely does. I started Labor Day of 2023 and barely a day has gone by since then when I have not thought of or spoken of GLP-1s in some way.

You're not alone... 😆

 

[Iamnew2this]

It surely does. I started Labor Day of 2023 and barely a day has gone by since then when I have not thought of or spoken of GLP-1s in some way.

I totally understand you. It's so addicting 😄

 

[chmuse]

Price has increased from $75 to $112.

That's still only 4.50/bottle 🤷‍♀️ I just went for it. I don't worry I'll run out and I can gift them to friends.

 

[Peloma]

That's still only 4.50/bottle 🤷‍♀️ I just went for it. I don't worry I'll run out and I can gift them to friends.

Can we be friends? ❤️

 

[geoguy78]

Price has increased from $75 to $112.

On that note..... I'll definitely be pushing my case well past the expiration date

 

[Angie_1980]

So, i have recently learned that Hospira BAC water can now only be bought with a prescription! Smart move by big pharma. Other brands of BAC water are also being gone after i have heard (someone on another forum said some grey vendors have admitted that BAC water regulations are tightening)

I am also concerned about the tariff situation. I saw someone post that their product from overseas was seized and they are not getting another order.

Is anyone concerned that Grey--even overseas---MAY be coming to an end?

Am i just paranoid?

thoughts? comments?

I have a guy who just sells gray GLP-1s. I have bought from him twice. It's a private seller, they can't touch him. Gis latest concern was tariffs, but they resumed as of May 2nd. Anyone interested in group buy, and splitting the lab analysis, let me know.

 

[AndyPanda]

Price has increased from $75 to $112.

I bought from them once about 9 months ago and received emails from one of their reps in past few weeks asking me if I need it for $80 a case. If you message the rep they assigned you with your past order you can probably get the same deal. I’m definitely not a member of some elite club.

 

[pathfinder12]

i'm able to walk into my compound pharmacy and buy it for $5 a 30ml bottle but i have a longtime relationship with them. I wish theycarried smaller bottles cause after 2 or 3 months I throw it away and its more than 50% left...but then again it's only 5 bucks!

 

[noggin]

I think maybe I will panickly purchase presently as well.

Did you pertinently panic purchase product as proper procedure?

 

[Peloma]

Did you pertinently panic purchase product as proper procedure?

Alliteration this early in the morning? Someone ate their wheaties!

 

[Myturbo4032]

I’m going to try to maintain a personal stock of 12 bottles. That’s a years worth for me. I can’t imagine not being able to source it within that amount of time. If I’m wrong? I’ll learn to make it.

 

[AndyPanda]

I’m going to try to maintain a personal stock of 12 bottles. That’s a years worth for me. I can’t imagine not being able to source it within that amount of time. If I’m wrong? I’ll learn to make it.

Everyone on here started modest. Then we were buying label makers and freezers. lol

 

[Myturbo4032]

Everyone on here started modest. Then we were buying label makers and freezers. lol

Oh I have the Nimbot and the freezer and a mini fridge for peps in my dressing room. Lol. I’ve just come to the conclusion that “Grey finds a way”. As long as I have enough to give them a minute to strategize I’m probably good.

 

[zanny-kanny]

So, i have recently learned that Hospira BAC water can now only be bought with a prescription! Smart move by big pharma. Other brands of BAC water are also being gone after i have heard (someone on another forum said some grey vendors have admitted that BAC water regulations are tightening)

I am also concerned about the tariff situation. I saw someone post that their product from overseas was seized and they are not getting another order.

Is anyone concerned that Grey--even overseas---MAY be coming to an end?

Am i just paranoid?

thoughts? comments?

I say you're being prudent, hopefully not prophetic. I have the same worries. Every time something becomes addictive in this country you know what happens...someone in Washington feels the need to control it. While there are some mavericks on here who will buck it, most of us will not be comfortable turning to black market peptides. So maybe we are both paranoid, but is it paranoia if it comes true?

 

[Peloma]

Please keep politics out of here.

 

[Peloma]

Government on both sides has failed us for too long, and the effect of big pharma running this country has made people like us turn to the grey market.

F the gvt in general!

 

[ZippityDooDah]

Allow me to remind everyone of rule #12: https://glp1forum.com/threads/simple-rules.1/

"12. NO POLITICS. There are plenty of other places to discuss how you feel about politics, and this isn't one of them. Discussion about government involvement with big pharma and regulations/access/availability/pricing concerning these life-changing medications is permitted as long as it doesn't stray into talk about parties or politicians. Please walk this fine line carefully."

Emphasis added to clarify the line that was crossed.

 

[Peloma]

Allow me to remind everyone of rule #12: https://glp1forum.com/threads/simple-rules.1/

"12. NO POLITICS. There are plenty of other places to discuss how you feel about politics, and this isn't one of them. Discussion about government involvement with big pharma and regulations/access/availability/pricing concerning these life-changing medications is permitted as long as it doesn't stray into talk about parties or politicians. Please walk this fine line carefully."

Emphasis added to clarify the line that was crossed.

Roger that, Zippity! 🫡

 

[esdsafepoet]

Perhaps pervasive political pressures perversely push peptide production protocols to prioritize partisan preferences, prompting perplexing policy proposals and potentially perilous public perceptions — but personally, I’ll politely postpone political prattle to preserve peaceful, peptide-focused parlance.