Bro Science vs AI vs Medical Experience

[m100568]

I have an upcoming hernia surgery that will involve placement of a mesh to strengthen the area and prevent future hernias. Bro science says take the Wolverine Stack, and that is exactly what I was planning on doing. For fun I ran the question by different AIs. One says do Wolverine stack which will speed healing. Another one said no, but didn't give a detailed reason why. A third was ambiguous. I ran all answers by Anthropic's Claude. It gave the most detailed answer. It started out with no one knows, which is true. It then explained that the musclse actually binds to the mesh through rough scar tissue. It expressed a concern that while BPC157 and TB500 would speed healing, the scar tissue might be smoother and might not hold the mesh strongly. This could result is slippage, pain, repeat hernia and repeat surgery. Again, while Claude expressed these concerns, it correctly stated that there is no research and the answer is unknown.

Mesh placement has been used by the medical community for decades. The formation of scar tissue through natural healing is well known, well documented and the results are predictable. In the end, I decided that I won't be using the Wolverine Stack for faster healing. There is a time and place for peptide experimentation. For me, this is not one of them.

 

[CNCCurrency]

This: it correctly stated that there is no research and the answer is unknown

 

[BrightCandle]

Some of them have solid foundations in research, others not quite there yet but expected to be soon but most just don't have a decent sized human clinical trial proving their efficacy. Rodent data is often wrong and far from sufficient for side effects.

I feel like even if the wolverine stack had the clinical data in humans it wouldn't be for this type of wound healing, it would be for backpain or torn ligaments or damaged muscles from overload. Its unlikely they would trial this type of recovery, its too specific and not really what these are saying they heal.

 

[lessthanhalf]

Have not read specific research on mesh healing, but regarding the peptides, claude's answers are correct, there is no or at best minimal human studies for any of the components in the wolverine stack and zero studies on the peptides combined, not even in animals. I found chatgpt in research/scholar mode pretty good.

My concern for it and KLOW and GLOW is if they really do increase connective tissue growth and aid healing , then what is stopping them from causing excess growth in areas you do not want connective tissue growing , like your heart or liver, potentially causing long term organ failure, so if they actually work , they could be dangerous, and if not then at best they are a placebo.

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

Have not read specific research on mesh healing, but regarding the peptides, claude's answers are correct, there is no or at best minimal human studies for any of the components in the wolverine stack and zero studies on the peptides combined, not even in animals. I found chatgpt in research/scholar mode pretty good.

My concern for it and KLOW and GLOW is if they really do increase connective tissue growth and aid healing , then what is stopping them from causing excess growth in areas you do not want connective tissue growing , like your heart or liver, potentially causing long term organ failure, so if they actually work , they could be dangerous, and if not then at best they are a placebo.

Yea thats stressful shit... but maybe when one is in thier 70s or so, it might be more helpful than hurtful to use that stuff