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Cain @NexaPh comes through

DeafJam said:
That was the one issue I’ve seen with his GLPs where you pretty much had to test your own batch if you cannot deal with a 25% spread. As it was over, I don’t think he reshipped and I’m on the side of the fence that he didn’t need to as all were over.

For the R48, six vials have been tested at 58 to 62 mgs. Another testing server may run a test on it, but at 58 to 62 for the spread, I’m confident enough to start dosing.

Most group buys test between 1 and 3 vials, so you are still stuck having to third party test if 5 to 6 vials from Cain still makes you nervous. I’m on a TS that is having to test another large mfgs Reta repeatedly as they are seeing 25% spreads and it is all from a couple of group buys. They are all over, but that spread is making some nervous while others feel they can deal with it. We all have different risk profiles.

I’ve used multiple Chinese and “US” vendors. I probably won’t use SRY again due to recent history with their process practices. I have used SSA, but my last experience with a rep wasn’t good and I didn’t complete the order. I would use them again with a different rep.
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Exactly. They can get 200mg testosterone to 199-209mg wish the glp1s had tighter tolerance. There's been 40,50 and 100% overfills.
 
Airborne Daddy said:
Exactly. They can get 200mg testosterone to 199-209mg wish the glp1s had tighter tolerance. There's been 40,50 and 100% overfills.
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Ironically, this mostly came about due to people complaining about their 10mg vial having 9.8mg and such. As the industry started to explode, "overfills" became the norm rather than accuracy. Everyone's drive to get the best bargain and ignoring the importance of trusting the accuracy of what's in a vial over the feelings of "winning" by getting more for their money is why we're at this point with peptides in general but especially GLP's.
 
ZippityDooDah said:
Ironically, this mostly came about due to people complaining about their 10mg vial having 9.8mg and such. As the industry started to explode, "overfills" became the norm rather than accuracy. Everyone's drive to get the best bargain and ignoring the importance of trusting the accuracy of what's in a vial over the feelings of "winning" by getting more for their money is why we're at this point with peptides in general but especially GLP's.
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IRight on... if previously advertised as such I'll take the 38mg tirz as 30 and recalculate but accurate dosing is pretty important.
 
Airborne Daddy said:
IRight on... if previously advertised as such I'll take the 38mg tirz as 30 and recalculate but accurate dosing is pretty important.
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Fortunately, independent testing having really become the norm rather than the exception has helped most reasonably intelligent people stay pretty accurate in their dosing. At the same time if I had my preference I would rather stick with vendors who have a history of hitting the mark with their fills (even within a pharma-acceptable margin of error) over getting an overage.

At least when Five Guys or whoever goes way overboard with fries, you can clearly see that with your own eyes and decide whether or not to over-indulge all on your own, but with microscopic peptides I would rather know that 15mg is 15mg than end up taking 22mg and having an unpleasant week.
 
ZippityDooDah said:
Fortunately, independent testing having really become the norm rather than the exception has helped most reasonably intelligent people stay pretty accurate in their dosing. At the same time if I had my preference I would rather stick with vendors who have a history of hitting the mark with their fills (even within a pharma-acceptable margin of error) over getting an overage.

At least when Five Guys or whoever goes way overboard with fries, you can clearly see that with your own eyes and decide whether or not to over-indulge all on your own, but with microscopic peptides I would rather know that 15mg is 15mg than end up taking 22mg and having an unpleasant week.
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Good analogy. Concur 100% Zipp.....
 
Now I'm craving overfilled fries with an overfilled bottle of test 😀

(But the one thing I don't need overfilled is cagri, since I plan to be on such a low dose.)
 
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ZippityDooDah said:
Ironically, this mostly came about due to people complaining about their 10mg vial having 9.8mg and such. As the industry started to explode, "overfills" became the norm rather than accuracy. Everyone's drive to get the best bargain and ignoring the importance of trusting the accuracy of what's in a vial over the feelings of "winning" by getting more for their money is why we're at this point with peptides in general but especially GLP's.
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I'd much rather my T30 have 29mg than 34mg, but maybe I'm an oddball? I guess the GLP Karens won out over common sense.
 
Calm Logic said:
For reta or in general, is there a particular vendor you guys would use again? Or avoid due to a previous delay or seizure?

I would be angry with myself if a $300 or $400 order never came through. I have had good luck so far with two orders from SRY US and another small order from Nexaph. But I hate how Alan at SRY can ignore people for so long if an order falls between the cracks, as in not respond for weeks (if at all?).

I don't hear a whole lot about SSA and some of the others compared to SRY, Nexaph, PGB, and Bfflist. What I have read of SSA is good but mixed (similar to SRY and some other alphabet soups).
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I honestly had such a good experience with SSA, especially since it was my first overseas purchase AND my first crypto purchase, I would be hard pressed to go elsewhere with my business, as long as quality is maintained. Communication was solid, prices are fantastic, and they offer a LOT of variety beyond the reta. Test E at 11$/vial is great, most of the orals being as cheap as they are make the extra 40$ shipping charge more than worth it.

EDIT: did not realize I was replying to an almost 6 month old post. I need to go to bed.
 
rsmith said:
I'm going lower than that with my prediction... much lower.

By this time next year, Reta will be going for current Tirz prices... i.e., ~ .27/mg.
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And tirzepatide will lower and heading towards the semaglutide type prices. (I'm talking about comparing the price for the maximum recommended doses of each.)
 
I worry mostly about the first issue you mentioned (customs), and any significant increase in seizures will affect pricing. I still avoid ordering from China directly.

But I am still optimistic since the prices have only gone down. Still, it seems most of us agree it's good to have at least a 2+ year backup supply.
 
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exploitedworkerbee said:
I predict a massive crackdown on imports at points of entry coupled with enforcement actions against non-pharma distribution in the US, and perhaps shutting down ugl GLP1 sources in China like happened with steroid raws recently.
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I saw a post someone here with a message from a friend that worked in customs saying that right now they're aiming for 100% digital review (by humans) of all incoming packages with the ability to recall the package even if it's already physically passed through customs (like, making the carrier bring it back if they suspect contraband) with the goal of having all these digital x-ray, CT, etc images available to train an AI model by sometime in 2026 or 2027 so that they can automate the whole process.

So yeah, reason to believe this party isn't going to last forever... Stock up now. At least the frozen powder seems to last a very long time.
 
Calm Logic said:
Going by the tested amount, R60 is already 50 cents per mg at SSA (vendor tested at 66.2 mg). For R30, 62 cents/mg.
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Is it? I haven't seen SSA advertise RT60 at a price that would get it that low. I saw it advertised for $360. 360 / (66.2 X 10) = $.54 mg. That's a good price, but not 50 cent per mg. I don' t belong to the SSA Discord. I might have missed a price decrease.
 
keangkong said:
Is it? I haven't seen SSA advertise RT60 at a price that would get it that low. I saw it advertised for $360. 360 / (66.2 X 10) = $.54 mg. That's a good price, but not 50 cent per mg. I don' t belong to the SSA Discord. I might have missed a price decrease.
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Calm Logic said:
Latest price list is $330 for R60. SSA posted their new list here too.
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Here's the Jano COA. So, .50/mg. Reta available now.

 
fittide said:
I saw a post someone here with a message from a friend that worked in customs saying that right now they're aiming for 100% digital review (by humans) of all incoming packages with the ability to recall the package even if it's already physically passed through customs (like, making the carrier bring it back if they suspect contraband) with the goal of having all these digital x-ray, CT, etc images available to train an AI model by sometime in 2026 or 2027 so that they can automate the whole process.

So yeah, reason to believe this party isn't going to last forever... Stock up now. At least the frozen powder seems to last a very long time.
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I can't say with certainty that this won't work, but this is the federal government bureaucracy here. I suspect that whatever plan they have now will be discarded within the next six months.
 
DeafJam said:
If you buy Cain’s R48 on presale, it is $1/mg as it was $625 and tested around 60-62mg. I use him for pre-sales as it is extremely well tested, US shipping, and the one time I had an issue, he resolved it with no BS immediately. I also don’t have to dick around with gas fees.

Yes, I can save money going through the “dear” and “friend” brigade. I want US shipping and not dealing with reps trying to push me to order from China even though they have a US warehouse. I place an order with Cain, I get it several days after the pre-sale ships. Testing for GLPs winds up being at least 5-6 vials once it is all said and done.

For GLP’s, Cain is an easy button that is reasonably priced on pre-sale for what is offered. For other peptides or not on pre-sale GLP’s, I don’t see the value, but I’m not going to shit on those who do.
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When you buy from Nexa (or anyone else for that matter) do you still send in vials to test on your own or do you trust the posted tests at face value?
 
Skydweller007 said:
When you buy from Nexa (or anyone else for that matter) do you still send in vials to test on your own or do you trust the posted tests at face value?
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The "Million Dollar Question" right there..... When I pay domestic vendor prices, me personally I'm factoring in that there already exists a testing regimen that allows me enough comfort in the product to not conduct my own testing. But..... I've only bought from PGB here domestically, and while I have serious issues with their current test results/refund policy, they do have a fairly robust testing program in place that includes multiple rounds of both PGB and customer volunteer vials. I pin their product without my own testing. I don't know if Nexaph has anything similar, but if they don't, I see zero reason to buy from them over direct from China other than slightly less hassle.
 
geoguy78 said:
The "Million Dollar Question" right there..... When I pay domestic vendor prices, me personally I'm factoring in that there already exists a testing regimen that allows me enough comfort in the product to not conduct my own testing. But..... I've only bought from PGB here domestically, and while I have serious issues with their current test results/refund policy, they do have a fairly robust testing program in place that includes multiple rounds of both PGB and customer volunteer vials. I pin their product without my own testing. I don't know if Nexaph has anything similar, but if they don't, I see zero reason to buy from them over direct from China other than slightly less hassle.
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I don't understand exactly how third party testing works through Nexa, but I know that people who buy from Nexa often believe testing is unnecessary. I do believe testing is unnecessary for PGB.

With the prices of each so high right now, it does seem to me that buying from China is probably the best choice.
 
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