Cardio exercise and Reta

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Hello Everyone -
I am curious fo those that lift (3-4x a week life long lifter) and do a good amount of cardio. How does the cardio feel on reta? Loss of strenth? More fatigue ? I avg roughly 2500 miles a yr roadbike riding March - December. Take the winter months off (I should not but I do). Researching now and want to drop 30lbs of stubborn muffin fat. I'm 6 5" 255 and my preferred body type is lean a some definition.
Thank u in advance !
 
No exercise here. I find it interesting on the HR deal which I read and they mention about Reta. I'm usually around 72-76 not actually resting, but maybe just sitting down after coming back from the kitchen or some. Went for my normal doc appointment 2 weeks ago, 76. We just got a new Sleep Number bed yesterday that tracks HR and other stuff. My HR was 64 sleeping. I've been on it 8 weeks.
 
I’m new again to the gym but cardio feels good on Reta + TRT. Be wary of your blood sugar, I haven’t had a crash and don’t have glucose issues normally, but Reta can be harder on glucose levels without carbs.

Some incline work this week. Your weight, a few inches shorter considerably less trained.
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I started Tirz December 12th, Reta in January 10th.
Today’s resting rate dropped to 57bpm according to Apple. I didn’t start wearing an Oura until this month.

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Habibibi said:
I've added strength. Cardio feels the same, except when I look at heart rate data, it's higher on retatrutide. I'm also doing less cardio, because I'm trying to retain muscle.
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has the increased heart rate bothered your sleep? Read that it is generally speaking +8-10 bpm.
 
woundcarping said:
I’m new again to the gym but cardio feels good on Reta + TRT. Be wary of your blood sugar, I haven’t had a crash and don’t have glucose issues normally, but Reta can be harder on glucose levels without carbs.

Some incline work this week. Your weight, a few inches shorter considerably less trained.
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I started Tirz December 12th, Reta in January 10th.
Today’s resting rate dropped to 57bpm according to Apple. I didn’t start wearing an Oura until this month.

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need to get a health tracker. Honestly, sometimes don't want to know which is bad way of looking at it. good info , thank u.
 
gimmeshelter said:
need to get a health tracker. Honestly, sometimes don't want to know which is bad way of looking at it. good info , thank u.
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I don't go crazy with it, I have an Apple Watch and an Oura Ring. I'm sure there are "better" options by some metrics but so far these do what I need to do with minimal friction.
 
Cyclist/Triathlete here - I find it depends on the intensity.. if I'm out for a true zone 2 effort, not that big a difference -except it's a bit hard to stay in the lower end due to the baseline elevation.

Where I get into harder, more sustained effort or interval/speed work is where it starts to show up more for my self. I do feel a bit limited at the upper end, like my bucket empties a bit faster - not dramatic - but don't have the staying power for a long 300w effort.

Not HR related, but during the hotter months I have had issues around hydration/fueling. Meaning that it is difficult to consume enough during my rides - it was an effort before to fuel adequately on longer days. Now I'm working around the 'fullness' and not tipping into the nausea state when I need to eat and hydrate closely together. Hope that made sense
 
gimmeshelter said:
Hello Everyone -
I am curious fo those that lift (3-4x a week life long lifter) and do a good amount of cardio. How does the cardio feel on reta? Loss of strenth? More fatigue ? I avg roughly 2500 miles a yr roadbike riding March - December. Take the winter months off (I should not but I do). Researching now and want to drop 30lbs of stubborn muffin fat. I'm 6 5" 255 and my preferred body type is lean a some definition.
Thank u in advance !
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So I just started Reta recently and when I went to gym that morning (I go 5/6 days a week) after taking my dose I got very light headed & fast heart rate on the treadmill, so Ive decided to take my dose on my days off from the gym from now on.
 
Yeah the raised heart rate is something that makes me wait and see before Im going to switch from tirz to reta. I’m a runner focussing on 5&10k right now but run for like 40-60km a week. I definitely notice a kind of upper limit when pushing hard. Sometimes a bit of nausea during pushing in the days after my injection. But this is not heart rate related. But my heart rate settled down after some months but it’s still not the same as before. (5-10 bpm higher) Curious how reta comparea to tirz with raised heart rate.
 
Minkster said:
I'm struggling in the gym a little. I get random waves of nausea and the same weight seems harder, could just be the cal deficit and weight loss? Started Reta about 4.5 mos ago & I'm on 3.5mg.
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Yeah, cal deficit and maybe low glycogen/not enough carbs. Eat more frequently if its hard to eat. Don’t rush with the weightloss.
 
I've exercised my whole life. Late 60's now, do about 30 minutes of resistance workout 3 x a week, and walk 6-8 miles per day every day. I didn't notice any change in any of my data during my 6 weeks of Reta, nor did I feel any different while exercising. Now experimenting with Tirz, so far the same.
 
Anami said:
Yeah, cal deficit and maybe low glycogen/not enough carbs. Eat more frequently if its hard to eat. Don’t rush with the weightloss.
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I'm going slow, I've only lost about 19lbs in almost 5 mos. I try to hit at least 100g protein/day but it should probably be more like 140g and I probably don't eat enough carbs.
 
I have been on Reta for about 5 weeks lost about 12 pounds. Have not noticed any weakness in lifting weights but i do go 5 days a week and this was before reta strength at this point is the same. No change in HR either i usually do 30 mins of cardio.
This compared to wegovy there i lost strength
 
Reta has definitely affected my workouts. When I was on just tirz, I could reasonably get the energy on any given day to hit the gym and meet my lifting targets. Once I added reta back in Jan, I've noticed that I struggle on a number of lifts that would normally be fine. I'm trying to be mindful to carb up beforehand, but that doesn't seem to help much. I think it's interesting how we all react so individually to these peps. I'll be done with my reta + tirz experiment at the end of the month, and I'm curious to see if my lifts are back to normal once the reta fades.
*I know this thread was about cardio, but to me weight lifting is my main cardio!
 
ThatNextGril said:
Reta has definitely affected my workouts. When I was on just tirz, I could reasonably get the energy on any given day to hit the gym and meet my lifting targets. Once I added reta back in Jan, I've noticed that I struggle on a number of lifts that would normally be fine. I'm trying to be mindful to carb up beforehand, but that doesn't seem to help much. I think it's interesting how we all react so individually to these peps. I'll be done with my reta + tirz experiment at the end of the month, and I'm curious to see if my lifts are back to normal once the reta fades.
*I know this thread was about cardio, but to me weight lifting is my main cardio!
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Are you using Reta + Tirz at the same time? I have been thinking about starting to do that.
 
I feel like my HR is higher than usual. My strength is about the same but I feel like I feel weaker in terms of stamina. Idk if it is because of a harsh lack of calories
 
Red40 said:
Are you using Reta + Tirz at the same time? I have been thinking about starting to do that.
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Yep! I've been stalled on tirz for a number of months, so I decided in Jan to try adding some reta to see if the glucagon element helps push past that. I've been keeping at a reduced tirz dose (8mg) and am up to 5mg of reta now. I do think the reta is working for some reduction in certain areas (stomach and arms) but the sleep disruption and previously noted energy drag does suck. I only planned to do the combo for about 2-3 months, and I'm coming up on the 2 month mark next week. I'll decide then if I want to go another month, or if I want to just drop to just tirz so I can get my sleep and energy back.
 
WYSiWYG said:
Cyclist/Triathlete here - I find it depends on the intensity.. if I'm out for a true zone 2 effort, not that big a difference -except it's a bit hard to stay in the lower end due to the baseline elevation.
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The thing is that it’s not a true zone 2 effort anymore. Heart rate is used as a proxy for underlying metabolic demand but it you’re screwing with heart rate it shifts the whole curve. You’ve gotta recalibrate your zones to accurately reflect the underlying metabolic demand, otherwise you might just be futzing around in zone 1.
 
I didn't really notice much of a difference for me.

Mind you, I do 6 week cycles of Cardarine (GW-501516). I 100%, without any question of doubt, notice an improvement in my cardio. 3 days of taking this and you'll see an improvement. Because of the previous study's, im conscience not to take too much of this stuff and keep it to 10mg/day, and make sure not to take longer than 6 weeks.
 
SVT810E said:
The thing is that it’s not a true zone 2 effort anymore. Heart rate is used as a proxy for underlying metabolic demand but it you’re screwing with heart rate it shifts the whole curve. You’ve gotta recalibrate your zones to accurately reflect the underlying metabolic demand, otherwise you might just be futzing around in zone 1.
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Yes, I understand that - but the context of 'true zone 2' is more related to when your buddies say - Hey - let's go for a Z2 ride which is actually Z4-5 lol
 
I feel like cardio has been pretty much the same, my apple watch has not detected a higher than average resting heart rate for me. I do however feel like I have a bit more stamina than usual but i think its because ive been working on proper running form and i have beginner running shoes now (Brooks Ghost Max 3, i love them!!!)
 
Minkster said:
I'm struggling in the gym a little. I get random waves of nausea and the same weight seems harder, could just be the cal deficit and weight loss? Started Reta about 4.5 mos ago & I'm on 3.5mg.
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My experience pretty much mirrors yours. My motivation to show up is higher than ever but my performance under caloric deficit/random bouts of nausea is subpar. I do well to hit 2-3 different lifts and then I go walk uphill on the treadmill for 30-40 mins or until I'm too nauseous to continue.
 
anhydrous said:
My experience pretty much mirrors yours. My motivation to show up is higher than ever but my performance under caloric deficit/random bouts of nausea is subpar. I do well to hit 2-3 different lifts and then I go walk uphill on the treadmill for 30-40 mins or until I'm too nauseous to continue.
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I've noticed if I nibble on something like a couple almonds or bite of a protein bar the nausea passes. But it's annoying and usually hits right after a heavy set. I'm playing around with different pre workout nutrition to see if that helps.
 
Newbie as far as reta goes, fit 59 yo male going into 6th week. I notice the increase in heart rate but not in a negative way (rev that motor a lil bit!) and no noticible differences in athletic performance. not a negative anyway. I simply "feel" like the reta is at work, if that makes sense. Like you know something "else" is onboard and it's doing "things', all of which seem to be good at this moment in time. Happy researching!
 
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