Cincinnati CBP seized $3.5 million in counterfeit pharma

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"During a week-long joint operation between U.S. Customs and Border Protection and U.S. Food and Drug Administration, CBP officers inspected hundreds of boxes containing possible counterfeit and unapproved medications... During the operation, CBP officers intercepted shipments containing counterfeit Ozempic, Semaglutide, Retatrutide, and Tirzepatide, injections in demand for positive results in weight loss."

I like how they listed ozempic and semaglutide separately, as if they're two different drugs. 😆

 
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fatbegone said:
"During a week-long joint operation between U.S. Customs and Border Protection and U.S. Food and Drug Administration, CBP officers inspected hundreds of boxes containing possible counterfeit and unapproved medications... During the operation, CBP officers intercepted shipments containing counterfeit Ozempic, Semaglutide, Retatrutide, and Tirzepatide, injections in demand for positive results in weight loss."

I like how they listed ozempic and semaglutide separately, as if they're two different drugs. 😆

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Article going on about keeping people safe and then goes on to mention the value of seized drugs totaling 3 million+ 🙄
 
The USA has always been faster to hurt its own people than help them.

The list of highest incarceration per capita summarizes our issues neatly.
  • El Salvador: 1,659 per 100,000
  • Cuba: 794 per 100,000
  • Rwanda: 620 per 100,000
  • Turkmenistan: 576 per 100,000
  • United States: 541 per 100,000 🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
On the low end...
There are two ways to look at this information and neither is an uplifting conclusion.

If we believe that a nation like Norway has a reasonable incarceration rate, why is America's 10x higher? Ten times!

If our 10x rate is reasonable then we are a nation of monsters.

On the other hand, if Americans aren't that different than Norwegians, then we have a massive over-policing problem.

Even if the truth is somewhere in between, say Norway is under-policing by several times, the USA still looks insane.

If grey GLP-1 meds start taking real money out of pharma's pocket, today's news could be just the beginning.

Be careful. There is a large system out to get you. Don't be the easiest target.
 
"Had all these items been legitimate, the combined value of all the products would have been over $3.53 million."

But because they weren't "legitimate" the actual cost was more like $500,000. Just guessing...
 
byefatlicia said:
"Had all these items been legitimate, the combined value of all the products would have been over $3.53 million."

But because they weren't "legitimate" the actual cost was more like $500,000. Just guessing...
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Yes! Someone posted something about a seizure the other day about HGH and when I saw the alleged value it was even further off than the GLP1s. Government agencies playing these silly numbers games affirm what drugs work and which ones don’t by stating an absurd value. Especially for something that has been available in generic for long periods of time.
 
byefatlicia said:
"Had all these items been legitimate, the combined value of all the products would have been over $3.53 million."

But because they weren't "legitimate" the actual cost was more like $500,000. Just guessing...
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I get <$55K total street value, based on 100% 15 mg weekly dosing of tirz, using the cost per mg of a recent jumbo-vials group buy purchase I made.

I wonder what the total staff/system/storage cost of this bust was? Probably around $3.53 million!
 
byefatlicia said:
"Had all these items been legitimate, the combined value of all the products would have been over $3.53 million."

But because they weren't "legitimate" the actual cost was more like $500,000. Just guessing...
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Allow me translate into common English:

"If the buyer would have bought these items from EL, it would have cost 3.53 million. However, since the buyer wasn't getting ripped off by EL, actual cost is $30,000, including shipping."
 
byefatlicia said:
"Had all these items been legitimate, the combined value of all the products would have been over $3.53 million."

But because they weren't "legitimate" the actual cost was more like $500,000. Just guessing...
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Well .. let's consider it .. according to the article it was 54,843 products so the average price would be $64. But considering this, it just shows how much money is on the line for the pharma companies. Let's say that they lose 1 million customers to the grey market .. each one would have been a legal customer who is paying $500 a month for a product that costs them $50 (I'm being generous to them) that means that they are losing $5.4 billion per year. Yeah we all know that their profits are much higher than that .. more than enough profit to be able to bribe all the right people to spur them into action. More than enough to prevent our own government from acting for our benefit and outlaw the vultures from the price gouging that they do in the US.
 
fatbegone said:
"During a week-long joint operation between U.S. Customs and Border Protection and U.S. Food and Drug Administration, CBP officers inspected hundreds of boxes containing possible counterfeit and unapproved medications... During the operation, CBP officers intercepted shipments containing counterfeit Ozempic, Semaglutide, Retatrutide, and Tirzepatide, injections in demand for positive results in weight loss."

I like how they listed ozempic and semaglutide separately, as if they're two different drugs. 😆

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But ur seizure letter will say 10k worth of hgh not 360 worth of tirz....
 
fatbegone said:
"During a week-long joint operation between U.S. Customs and Border Protection and U.S. Food and Drug Administration, CBP officers inspected hundreds of boxes containing possible counterfeit and unapproved medications... During the operation, CBP officers intercepted shipments containing counterfeit Ozempic, Semaglutide, Retatrutide, and Tirzepatide, injections in demand for positive results in weight loss."

I like how they listed ozempic and semaglutide separately, as if they're two different drugs. 😆

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Some of the products seized.

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So thinking slightly differently about this - does anyone have evidence (be it CBP statements or just anecdotally or hearsay) that certain shipments are more vulnerable to seizure than others? For example, sema and tirz are big pharma cash cows under brand names, but most non GLP1’s are not. So are the grey GLP’s a higher viz target? Or are the others equally at risk because of their non FDA approved status?

I’m asking because I want to place an order for reta, NAD, KLOW, Kiss10 and igf. But if I leave out the reta and igf (assuming they would be higher priority seizure targets??), would the others have a good chance to make it through ok?

Or am I giving our Federal authorities too much credit and the reality is much simpler - they’ll seize it all and claim it’s all HGH/AAS/PED’s??

Thoughts?
 
Morbius said:
You know the agents are pocketing it, too.
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Never.
Super Troopers Police GIF


"Dozens of area law enforcement spouses achieve amazing weight loss together, film at 11."
 
latviantower said:
So thinking slightly differently about this - does anyone have evidence (be it CBP statements or just anecdotally or hearsay) that certain shipments are more vulnerable to seizure than others? For example, sema and tirz are big pharma cash cows under brand names, but most non GLP1’s are not. So are the grey GLP’s a higher viz target? Or are the others equally at risk because of their non FDA approved status?

I’m asking because I want to place an order for reta, NAD, KLOW, Kiss10 and igf. But if I leave out the reta and igf (assuming they would be higher priority seizure targets??), would the others have a good chance to make it through ok?

Or am I giving our Federal authorities too much credit and the reality is much simpler - they’ll seize it all and claim it’s all HGH/AAS/PED’s??

Thoughts?
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The question we need to ask is how much extra did this week long investigation cost. How many extra man hours did it take to locate and inspect all the packages involved. Because I don't think they targeted any particular substance .. they x-rayed the packages and looked for vials and injection pens. I do think that they wanted the GLP-1 drugs the most .. but all vials look the same on an x-ray.
 
MsGizmo said:
The question we need to ask is how much extra did this week long investigation cost. How many extra man hours did it take to locate and inspect all the packages involved. Because I don't think they targeted any particular substance .. they x-rayed the packages and looked for vials and injection pens. I do think that they wanted the GLP-1 drugs the most .. but all vials look the same on an x-ray.
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Does the government care about enforcement costs? Or just good headlines? Even their BP masters totally understand these seizure numbers are a barely visible fraction of a percent of a giant gray iceberg. But it sounds really good on the news.
 
I just can't imagine being the people who this order belongs to seeing this on the news. Hopefully they get a reship.
 
latviantower said:
Does the government care about enforcement costs? Or just good headlines? Even their BP masters totally understand these seizure numbers are a barely visible fraction of a percent of a giant gray iceberg. But it sounds really good on the news.
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Let's tellem great job and u best slow down cuz ur family loves you.... u have 3 weeks vacation so use it. Just chill, ur running too hard. Glp1's are not the enemy.
 
These agents are most likely saying "Why in the world are we shifting our focus away from fentanyl to this?" Already knowing from people in their own circles how beneficial these drugs are.
 
latviantower said:
Does the government care about enforcement costs? Or just good headlines? Even their BP masters totally understand these seizure numbers are a barely visible fraction of a percent of a giant gray iceberg. But it sounds really good on the news.
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No. They don’t care about costs. They have such generous budgets that at the end of the fiscal year they will have an opportunity for leftover money from their budget. Rather than return the money and risk losing that amount the following year, they spend it on stupid expensive shit like Oakley sunglasses and backpacks. Top dollar pocketknives. Whatever “tacticool” gadget is the flavor of the month. Then they hand said junk out to agents to keep.

Also, all of the bump helmets, NVGs, plate carriers and military style gear they are wearing is brand new. The only people at ICE, HSI, CBP, BP who used to get that were the guys on special teams like HRT and BORTAC, who are all well trained to use it.
 
AndyPanda said:
No. They don’t care about costs. They have such generous budgets that at the end of the fiscal year they will have an opportunity for leftover money from their budget. Rather than return the money and risk losing that amount the following year, they spend it on stupid expensive shit like Oakley sunglasses and backpacks. Top dollar pocketknives. Whatever “tacticool” gadget is the flavor of the month. Then they hand said junk out to agents to keep.

Also, all of the bump helmets, NVGs, plate carriers and military style gear they are wearing is brand new. The only people at ICE, HSI, CBP, BP who used to get that were the guys on special teams like HRT and BORTAC, who are all well trained to use it.
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They don't make a lot but Google said it's absolutely the norm to pull another 45k in overtime! You could be happily married and support a girlfriend and drug addiction on the side.... wait. Are Oakleys still in? I remember the special forces guys always had 160 dollar Oakley in the 90's..... I won't spend more than 15 cuz I go through a pair every 3 weeks.
 
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