Congress introduce bill to restrict manufacture of GLP1s.

[fittide]

Federal investigators also believe that ... peptide products sold by Paradigm Peptides were new drugs unapproved by the Food and Drug Administration (“FDA”).

People seem to be missing the most important part of this press release. Yes, these guys were easy pickings to make an example of because of the shady AAS stuff they had going on, but by including the part about 'other peptide products' (ie. glp's) the FDA kind of tipped their hand about how they intend to go after less shady companies slinging glp's on American soil starting next year. By already having set a precedent with Paradigm, it'll make it easier for them to apply it to other companies. They always go after the low hanging fruit first to set a precedent with a novel legal theory. This is the canary in the coal mine.

I've seen videos from several people in the community talking about how some of these companies got a tap on the shoulder from their lawyers having heard about what is about to come down the pike and that's why they're discontinuing selling glps. It's not to push promos. You couldn't pay me enough to sell a single vial of any peptide.

As far as getting stuff from China I read a post awhile ago from someone who had a friend in customs talking about how humans have been training AI to detect contraband during packages scans and while I'm sure they won't get them all, it could be devastating for the gray in the next few years. I believe the guy had said they wanted it up and running in full by mid to late 2026.

 

[cheaperseeker]

 

[Calm Logic]

People seem to be missing the most important part of this press release. Yes, these guys were easy pickings to make an example of because of the shady AAS stuff they had going on, but by including the part about 'other peptide products' (ie. glp's) the FDA kind of tipped their hand about how they intend to go after less shady companies slinging glp's on American soil starting next year. By already having set a precedent with Paradigm, it'll make it easier for them to apply it to other companies. They always go after the low hanging fruit first to set a precedent with a novel legal theory. This is the canary in the coal mine.

I've seen videos from several people in the community talking about how some of these companies got a tap on the shoulder from their lawyers having heard about what is about to come down the pike and that's why they're discontinuing selling glps. It's not to push promos. You couldn't pay me enough to sell a single vial of any peptide.

As far as getting stuff from China I read a post awhile ago from someone who had a friend in customs talking about how humans have been training AI to detect contraband during packages scans and while I'm sure they won't get them all, it could be devastating for the gray in the next few years. I believe the guy had said they wanted it up and running in full by mid to late 2026.

There is nothing novel at all about the FDA (and DEA and IRS) winning federal criminal cases over peptide distribution and related crimes like money laundering.

It is uncommon though, especially relative to the large number of distributors/vendors openly advertising on search engines and social platforms.

And I agree they went for the lowest hanging fruit this time. So maybe less wrist slapping this time regarding probation time, etc. But the fines are often/usually huge.

 

[mlke6]

As far as getting stuff from China I read a post awhile ago from someone who had a friend in customs talking about how humans have been training AI to detect contraband during packages scans

I really don't need to stockpile any more...

 

[swimmer]

Who has reta 30 at 200? I'm seeing prices around 270.

 

[PAPoots]

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That's an old list. I don't think I'd trust prices on a list over a month old. Is that vendor in the glp1 list of vendors?
I think a competent vendor would post their prices monthly. Even if all they do is change the date and repost.
I usually wait to order until I have enough in my cart to get free shipping. The last two vendor I went through, I lost out on free shipping because their price list was out of date and they were out of stock.

 

[swimmer]

That's an old list. I don't think I'd trust prices on a list over a month old. Is that vendor in the glp1 list of vendors?
I think a competent vendor would post their prices monthly. Even if all they do is change the date and repost.
I usually wait to order until I have enough in my cart to get free shipping. The last two vendor I went through, I lost out on free shipping because their price list was out of date and they were out of stock.

Last week I made a large order with LN. That price list was valid although I did not order any Reta. This is my first order with them. I have received tracking information already. For me the low prices made paying the shipping a no-brainer.

 

[PAPoots]

I also like vendors that post COAs like Uther. It justifies paying a little extra. If lns price list is in our vendors channel. I'll add them to my list.

 

[swimmer]

I also like vendors that post COAs like Uther. It justifies paying a little extra. If lns price list is in our vendors channel. I'll add them to my list.

There are lots of good Jano test results on their telegram channel including the R30. That being said you know these coas and tests can be faked. Everyone has their own level of tolerable risk.

(Sorry about hijacking this thread)

 

[keangkong]

I always feel more comfortable when I have a stockpile of peptides but so far seems that there has been more competition recently and the price of most peptides have dropped considerable the past 3-4 months. I just paid 40% less than I did for Reta just 3 months ago. So many packages crossing the border every day it's hard for customs to take a dent out of it and still not the drugs they are most focused on.

When SRY and SSA disappeared, prices went up. I haven't checked prices in the last month or two, but it would be nice if they're heading down. I believe that peptides will continue to go down in price as the manufacturers get more experience making them. Semaglutide is dirt cheap and tirzepatide has fallen a great deal over the last year and a half. Of course there will always be new stuff; that will be comparatively expensive. However, the way semi-free markets work is that the more folks buying the stuff, the more people learn to manufacture stuff inexpensively. Then prices drop for everything.

 

[keangkong]

There are lots of good Jano test results on their telegram channel including the R30. That being said you know these coas and tests can be faked. Everyone has their own level of tolerable risk.

Although it's still fairly common to submit a forged COA, the much bigger risk is that the vendor just sends in a vial from a different batch to be tested. The testing companies openly admit they will print out a few COAs with the names of different companies on them if they are paid to do so and it is represented to them that the batch will be split among the named companies. I have a great deal of trust in Janoshik and Peptide Test. The limitations involved with them are things that they openly admit. Neither will ever promise that your peptides are "safe." There may be other testing companies that can be trusted - but I believe Janoshik (Peter Magic) when he says that he thinks most testing companies are garbage. I did note that when Janoshik was asked about Peptide Test he did say something along the lines of he thinks they're probably legit. Sometimes a sample tested by both will yield different results. However, when asked they each provide technical explanations that don't attack the overall reliability of the other's lab.

(Sorry about hijacking this thread)