Congress introduce bill to restrict manufacture of GLP1s.

[Chucky]

Have you guys seen the below video on this?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aYpPTDqeLM&t=13s


https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-she...-favored-nation-pricing-to-american-patients/

 

[Not_Your_Dad]

My quick read of the bill suggests it does not target gray in any way, just compounding.

 

[byefatlicia]

This is gonna drive even more people to grey...

 

[Chucky]

My quick read of the bill suggests it does not target gray in any way, just compounding.

What it will do is make it harder to get it past border and into the country.

 

[Dos-Dox]

Alpha Omega Peptides (who I used to buy from before getting plugged into sites like this) sent an email this morning saying that due to regulatory changes, they’re getting out of all GLPs and marked their stock down 30%. (Of course that still makes their single vials just a little more than a whole kit from China.) So I agree, more people will be looking for supplies from other sources.

 

[Calm Logic]

What it will do is make it harder to get it past border and into the country.

For hoarding or stacking, sema may be the best for me pricewise since I get sides with every GLP but never nausea. OTOH, reta is a stack in itself, as is tirz.

The last time I did the math, it was only $100 for the first year of sema (at least if you go by the standard dosing schedule). Cagri also goes a long way per mg, but I don't have much experience with it and will throw out cagri before sema.

 

[Not_Your_Dad]

What it will do is make it harder to get it past border and into the country.

I'm not sure...

Again, it was just a quick read but I didn't see any reference to import - just adding oversight and more requirements to compounding pharmacies.

I'll read it again when I have more time. It's a short bill, only a couple pages.

 

[Calm Logic]

but I didn't see any reference to import - just adding oversight and more requirements to compounding pharmacies.

Right, but it may put more attention/pressure on the FDA to do its job in protecting potential "victims" of all kinds who can't or won't pay big pharma for GLPs (with TrumpRx or not).

It seems the FDA goes through cycles anyway in their focus for screening imports. Some here have compared it to our own workplaces where the priorities change each month.

Of course, the big priority with imports/screening is always fentanyl. But with fentanyl, there are no compounding pharmacies to inspect, haha.

 

[YoYoFat]

I'm not sure...

Again, it was just a quick read but I didn't see any reference to import - just adding oversight and more requirements to compounding pharmacies.

I'll read it again when I have more time. It's a short bill, only a couple pages.

While they should be doing that for all drugs from compounding pharmacies, IMO, I didn’t see any reference to compound in the link. None whatsoever. The link is WH policy. Not a bill introduced by Congress. And I’m not listening to anything that guy says to drive fear.

And the only reference to GLP-1s was related to pricing of pill form.

 

[HughJazz]

Yakym, Carson Introduce Bill to Protect Patients from Unsafe Compounded Drugs

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, Congressman Rudy Yakym (R-IN-02) and Congressman André Carson (D-IN-07) introduced the “Safeguarding Americans from Fraudulent and Experimental (SAFE) Drugs Act of 2025” to protect patients from untested, unapproved, and potentially dangerous mass compounded drugs...

yakym.house.gov

I did a search and cannot find the text of the actual bill online or in Congresss.gov

 

[Varixdos]

What it will do is make it harder to get it past border and into the country.

That’s what they said about anabolics. Yet, here we are getting it still from China, Europe, and Mexico.

They’ll just get better at steathing it.

 

[Calm Logic]

Since I've been here in March, people also love excuses to hoard. So this is fresh meat. Back away and let them devour, haha.

I hoard too, just at a smaller scale. Even before SRY went AWOL, I got a single vial of their T100 from a reseller for hoarding purposes.

 

[PAPoots]

I plan on hoarding a bit after I get my tax refund. Between inflation, higher demand, tarrifs, increased customs pressure... prices are going up.

 

[Not_Your_Dad]

It seems the FDA goes through cycles anyway regarding what they are looking for. Some here have compared it to our own workplaces where the priorities change each month.

They sure do!

And I have a suspicion that the vast majority of gray know to shut the fuck up about it and maintain some discretion, which should hopefully keep Congressional attention at a minimum.

 

[Not_Your_Dad]

Yakym, Carson Introduce Bill to Protect Patients from Unsafe Compounded Drugs

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, Congressman Rudy Yakym (R-IN-02) and Congressman André Carson (D-IN-07) introduced the “Safeguarding Americans from Fraudulent and Experimental (SAFE) Drugs Act of 2025” to protect patients from untested, unapproved, and potentially dangerous mass compounded drugs...

yakym.house.gov

I did a search and cannot find the text of the actual bill online or in Congresss.gov

https://www.safemedicines.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/SAFE-Drug-Act-Final-Bill-Text-12-9-2025.pdf

Looks legit but can't verify for sure.

 

[PAPoots]

Damn, I might have to start hoarding earlier. We need to get RFK hooked on some gray. He definitely needs some Glow or Klow. He looks way older than his age

 

[Calm Logic]

I plan on hoarding a bit after I get my tax refund. Between inflation, higher demand, tarrifs, increased customs pressure... prices are going up.

This summer with the FDA to be "screening" all FDA-regulated packages starting July 9th, instead of just packages of a certain declared value, I was thinking that too was a possibility, even by now. But prices have never gone up before, ever, that I know of. Only down.

 

[dogmom]

Hopefully, with new drugs on the horizon that will be better than even reta, authorities won't care in a few years to enforce any particular ban. I just think at this point there will always be something medical that will help with weight loss and maintenance.

 

[PAPoots]

This summer with the FDA to be "screening" all FDA-regulated packages starting July 9th, instead of just packages of a certain declared value, I was thinking that too was a possibility, even by now. But prices have never gone up before, ever, that I know of. Only down.

I'm seeing prices going up. The screenshot is Jeep's prices over the past couple months. Throw on higher shipping and a higher minimum price to get free shipping and it stings. If shipping such a small package cost so much, no one would buy from Temu.

I'll have to update my sheet with some other vendors and updated December prices. I only track jeep, mix, and Uther.

 

[MsGizmo]

What it will do is make it harder to get it past border and into the country.

Nah. I'm sticking with my previous comments on the situation .. there is way too much money involved for it to stop. Getting through customs be damned. I don't believe that the compounding pharmacies are going to quit either .. I think many of them would just pivot into the shadows.

The only part of this that will have a major effect is expanded insurance coverage. If it becomes cheaper to get it legitimately .. a whole lot will do that instead. For example, if zepbound became available to me and all I had to do was pay the $25 co-pay per month, I would seriously consider switching away from my current sema/reta combo.

 

[Foggy-Hollow]

This summer with the FDA to be "screening" all FDA-regulated packages starting July 9th, instead of just packages of a certain declared value, I was thinking that too was a possibility, even by now. But prices have never gone up before, ever, that I know of. Only down.

My favorite US warehouser is drifting up. Sigh. Found their presales in Oct and snagged a kit of T30 at import prices. The last month those have been 150% import.

I’m hoping it’s just a holiday spike. Who knows. Maybe the profits will be too sweet to wean off from.

 

[Calm Logic]

For GLPs, my ideal are smaller-mg vials (due to stacking with other GLPs) that are pre-tested by a domestic Uther reseller like PWGrove, which recently sold out of R20 for $135.

 

[Foggy-Hollow]

if zepbound became available to me and all I had to do was pay the $25 co-pay per month, I would seriously consider switching away from my current sema/reta combo.

With 70% of Americans being overweight or obese, there’s a whole lot of people that would.

If prices dropped to $25/mo, I think demand would outstrip production. Maybe I underestimate China’s ability to adapt and supply. $100 is often quipped online as a buy-in point.

Would you give up control over the dose? I’m not sure I could. After being shoehorned into standard doses since getting on mood meds in 2012 it’s been refreshing to have some say over step size and “just stick out the side effects” mentality.

 

[ThatNextGril]

Well, as someone who is stocked for about 2.5 years on her beloved tirz, I just went ahead and did the pre-order sale from Nexa for the reta 24. I've not used reta yet, and am hoping tirz keeps tirzing for me, but I'm sort of thinking it might be good to have a stash of the reta in the event I do plan to make the switch next year.

Funny enough, I went to the Nexa site yesterday just to see if it was still available for preorder and it was still in stock as I mulled it over. This thread made me pop over there in the last 20 mins to make the purchase and I noticed the GLP names were all changed. Cain used to call out tirzepatide, semaglutite and retatrutude in full on the bottle images and listings, but they are now letter coded. Checked his TG and sure enough he posted a pinned comment about the change to stay ahead of potential future regulatory requirements. Just thought it was interesting that he was also keeping a close eye on this news topic.

 

[Garbo]

I did a search and cannot find the text of the actual bill online or in Congresss.gov

Maybe all the file clerks got laid off.

 

[Calm Logic]

Well, as someone who is stocked for about 2.5 years on her beloved tirz, I just went ahead and did the pre-order sale from Nexa for the reta 24. I've not used reta yet, and am hoping tirz keeps tirzing for me, but I'm sort of thinking it might be good to have a stash of the reta in the event I do plan to make the switch next year.

Funny enough, I went to the Nexa site yesterday just to see if it was still available for preorder and it was still in stock as I mulled it over. This thread made me pop over there in the last 20 mins to make the purchase and I noticed the GLP names were all changed. Cain used to call out tirzepatide, semaglutite and retatrutude in full on the bottle images and listings, but they are now letter coded. Checked his TG and sure enough he posted a pinned comment about the change to stay ahead of potential future regulatory requirements. Just thought it was interesting that he was also keeping a close eye on this news topic.

That is practically free compared to reta kits at Cain's new sister site. The larger-dose kit has a $1,000 markup compared to Nexaph ($850 for 48-mg kit at Nexaph vs. $1850 at EZPeptides):

Anyone buying from ERP

Just want to reiterate Chinese vendors consider anything destined for US soil "domestic warehouse." Many times your product is not yet in the US or would have never been in the US had you not ordered. Vendors will provide a tracking number when you ask despite not having a package stateside to...

glp1forum.com

 

[Chili777]

That is practically free compared to reta kits at Cain's new sister site. The larger-dose kit has a $1,000 markup compared to Nexaph ($850 for 48 mg kit):

Anyone buying from ERP

Just want to reiterate Chinese vendors consider anything destined for US soil "domestic warehouse." Many times your product is not yet in the US or would have never been in the US had you not ordered. Vendors will provide a tracking number when you ask despite not having a package stateside to...

glp1forum.com

That's insane. I paid $650 (pre-order) for my first kit at Nexaph 4 months ago, and they tested to 55 mg.

 

[yrrdead]

Don't worry guys, if there is one thing that we can count on with this Administration (and to be fair almost all others) is that they are good at saying things but terrible at actually doing them. Can also insert Congress into that statement. Here's to incompetence.