Dear vendors: step the fuck up

[Cndmk]

If I was a seller I'd only be taking crypto right now. All of these compound panicked Amazon shoppers that are used to having their orders the next day are going to be doing chargebacks on anyone using Alipay, PayPal, and credit cards when there is the slightest hiccup in their CN order.

most sellers if they use Paypal is F&F, so no chargebacks available. What most likely will happen is many people will get scammed, and the scene will blow up with large amounts of fraud if only for a few months after compounding ceases (yes Sema will still be at least for the current time, but Novo is trying to put a kibosh on that).

It will be like Trump Coin, where you lose money, but EVERYONE wants to lose money at the same time, so everyone wins? Except the American/Chinese scammers in this analogy

 

[tul9033]

Wow, MOIST APPRECIATED!!! I'm positive many people will be grateful for your experience & knowledge. What do you think about QYC?

If you do crypto and want it now I'd say go for SRY or PGB. When AMO comes back they should take cards in some form.

 

[chmuse]

most sellers if they use Paypal is F&F, so no chargebacks available. What most likely will happen is many people will get scammed, and the scene will blow up with large amounts of fraud if only for a few months after compounding ceases (yes Sema will still be at least for the current time, but Novo is trying to put a kibosh on that).

It will be like Trump Coin, where you lose money, but EVERYONE wants to lose money at the same time, so everyone wins? Except the American/Chinese scammers in this analogy

The problem with that is your PayPal can get banned if they catch on that you're sending money to someone sketchy.

 

[tul9033]

most sellers if they use Paypal is F&F, so no chargebacks available. What most likely will happen is many people will get scammed, and the scene will blow up with large amounts of fraud if only for a few months after compounding ceases (yes Sema will still be at least for the current time, but Novo is trying to put a kibosh on that).

It will be like Trump Coin, where you lose money, but EVERYONE wants to lose money at the same time, so everyone wins? Except the American/Chinese scammers in this analogy

Taking PayPal is just asking for it. You start getting $1000's of F&F they will freeze your account. As for fraud, people who aren't using the top 5 proven CN sellers are rolling the dice AT BEST.
I do use PayPal to buy PYUSD and then send it off to my Exodus wallet to convert to USDC or even Bitcoin. But man, PayPal can sure be a pain in the ass if you have problems or need help.

 

[Cndmk]

Taking PayPal is just asking for it. You start getting $1000's of F&F they will freeze your account. As for fraud, people who aren't using the top 5 proven CN sellers are rolling the dice AT BEST.

I think we fail to realize how large this market is we exist in, we are talking in the realm of half of all adult americans, and many from other countries, if we say HALF of those are covered by insurance for name brand (I doubt that to be the case), then lets say it's 20-30 million adults on the SUPER conservative estimate side. Most of these people are being served by compounding right now.

The thing about communities that do research and talk with like-minded individuals, is they don't realize how "small" they are. The VAST VAST majority of these people are approaching some seller on facebook/instagram/tiktok and are getting suspect product and just injecting themselves with no testing.

Hell I wouldn't be surprised if most of those people don't even know what kind of drug they are asking for, just "Jennifer said she got this drug and it makes you lose weight, can I buy some?". What would an acceptable price be to sell to someone? Like $150-$200 a vial? That is essentially gold right there in terms of profit.

We are in the Age of the Grift and it would appear VERY LITTLE consequences to our actions. And make no mistake, if you are even in this forum you are better armed than 98% of the populace to deal with it, and yet we still have many posts of members getting scammed...

On my little street in suburban America, in a completely purple politically aligned state, I can name 10 people on GLP-1's right now from compounded/brand (mostly compounded)... my street is like a quarter mile long. I don't even talk to 70% of the people on the street. Shit's crazy

 

[AndyPanda]

Seeing the two price lists that have been posted lately, it looks like nobody is answering the call to step up. All I see is capitalizing on the current situation.

 

[tul9033]

I think we fail to realize how large this market is we exist in, we are talking in the realm of half of all adult americans, and many from other countries, if we say HALF of those are covered by insurance for name brand (I doubt that to be the case), then lets say it's 20-30 million adults on the SUPER conservative estimate side. Most of these people are being served by compounding right now.

The thing about communities that do research and talk with like-minded individuals, is they don't realize how "small" they are. The VAST VAST majority of these people are approaching some seller on facebook/instagram/tiktok and are getting suspect product and just injecting themselves with no testing.

Hell I wouldn't be surprised if most of those people don't even know what kind of drug they are asking for, just "Jennifer said she got this drug and it makes you lose weight, can I buy some?". What would an acceptable price be to sell to someone? Like $150-$200 a vial? That is essentially gold right there in terms of profit.

We are in the Age of the Grift and it would appear VERY LITTLE consequences to our actions. And make no mistake, if you are even in this forum you are better armed than 98% of the populace to deal with it, and yet we still have many posts of members getting scammed...

On my little street in suburban America, in a completely purple politically aligned state, I can name 10 people on GLP-1's right now from compounded/brand (mostly compounded)... my street is like a quarter mile long. I don't even talk to 70% of the people on the street. Shit's crazy

No doubt "the shot" is HUGE business. IMO GLP-1's are a miracle drug. Just think of the people who went as far as gastric bypass or banding. Now just a poke in the belly and you won't even think about food and the #'s will fall off. These drugs will be the aspirin and penicillin of the modern day. Eventually big pharma will make a nose spray out it and selling it over the counter at Walmart.

 

[DwightTheDelight]

You've got one more chance, vendors.

I'm at like a 4 on the anger scale right now. You don't want to see me at a 6.

One of you better blow my overalls clean off me with some upcoming pricing. I'm talking bogo power wheels. I'm talking the day being so pink that you can't help but return to calm. I want to order a kit of sema and be given a ladder for free or something. Get your shit together.

 

[hardtaildawn]

I found QYC on Discord, seems to have a lot of action between quotes, price lists are available, reviews are good, looks like they run "promotions"? haha - reading past chats, members seem happy with products. prices look good to. I opened a DM with her, she was prompt. Hopefully someone will have had or has some experience with this company, I would like to find out more.
I haven't had any luck with getting to Stairway for Gray. Every link is expired, The frustration is REAL lol - Probably spent the last month lurking on Redditt, Discord & the 1 time i got into Telegram ( clicked a link, didn't join) Been reading post after post, probably have 15 names of vendors, website in China. Went to websites, sent email, received many answers. Some businesses are the same with different names. Rep names are always different, sometimes just a number.
So, im probably going to order from QYC this weekend, Ill let you know.

 

[nonyabizznez]

I found QYC on Discord, seems to have a lot of action between quotes, price lists are available, reviews are good, looks like they run "promotions"? haha - reading past chats, members seem happy with products. prices look good to. I opened a DM with her, she was prompt. Hopefully someone will have had or has some experience with this company, I would like to find out more.
I haven't had any luck with getting to Stairway for Gray. Every link is expired, The frustration is REAL lol - Probably spent the last month lurking on Redditt, Discord & the 1 time i got into Telegram ( clicked a link, didn't join) Been reading post after post, probably have 15 names of vendors, website in China. Went to websites, sent email, received many answers. Some businesses are the same with different names. Rep names are always different, sometimes just a number.
So, im probably going to order from QYC this weekend, Ill let you know.

Typically someone new will order off a CN price sheet comparing the amazing deal to what they formerly paid to local spa, Henry meds, Ro, Hims Hers, Slimdownrx, Mochi, Lavender Sky... You get the idea. They'll go to bed happy and relieved! Maybe they completed their first Crypto transaction or got an address confirmation from your new Dear friend in China...

Then you wake up and BOOM! They posted an Arbor Day Customer Appreciation Crazy Thursday PROMO!! That same kit you just bought 8 hrs ago for $400 is now $250!!

That newbie is pissed! The Vendor doesn't care (and will never adjust) and you'll see they won't find sympathy here!

TLDR - Wait for promos

 

[Windingroads06]

Generally not a wise thing to do, being a pioneer. There’s a degree of safety in numbers.

This was exactly what I did before I knew better.
I literally searched "peptides made in china" and found a bunch of vendors on madeinchina. My first few purchases were from X before they were nuked. It's been tough replacing them.

It was after that on reddits that have since been nuked that I found forums that helped me figure safer stuff out.

It's a process. It's a journey. It's not everyday that can be pink.

 

[keangkong]

I think we fail to realize how large this market is we exist in, we are talking in the realm of half of all adult americans, and many from other countries, if we say HALF of those are covered by insurance for name brand (I doubt that to be the case), then lets say it's 20-30 million adults on the SUPER conservative estimate side. Most of these people are being served by compounding right now.

The thing about communities that do research and talk with like-minded individuals, is they don't realize how "small" they are. The VAST VAST majority of these people are approaching some seller on facebook/instagram/tiktok and are getting suspect product and just injecting themselves with no testing.

Hell I wouldn't be surprised if most of those people don't even know what kind of drug they are asking for, just "Jennifer said she got this drug and it makes you lose weight, can I buy some?". What would an acceptable price be to sell to someone? Like $150-$200 a vial? That is essentially gold right there in terms of profit.

We are in the Age of the Grift and it would appear VERY LITTLE consequences to our actions. And make no mistake, if you are even in this forum you are better armed than 98% of the populace to deal with it, and yet we still have many posts of members getting scammed...

On my little street in suburban America, in a completely purple politically aligned state, I can name 10 people on GLP-1's right now from compounded/brand (mostly compounded)... my street is like a quarter mile long. I don't even talk to 70% of the people on the street. Shit's crazy

My suspicion is also that the vast majority of folks buying grey are far less informed that the folks here.

 

[keangkong]

Never used QYC, maybe other members could chime in. I would say that vendors that have a good history you might aim for first, but honestly with how the last month has gone, I'm not sure I would trust most vendors even if they had a 100% track record. PGB being not really a vendor in the pure sense, more like a collection of purchased materials from various vendors, tested, and then re-sold after they are tested well in 3rd party tests.

There is a telegram called stairway to grey that has a really good tracking of results and a bot that I think still works that shows historicals every time a new test gets posted per vendor/peptide.

I got an invite to that a few months ago I think, not sure if they are sending invites right now, but a certain sub-reddit might be a good place to look /tirzepatidehelp.

StairwayToGray

https://t.me/+aHgLqR_UsvZkZDhh

t.me

 

[Windingroads06]

My suspicion is also that the vast majority of folks buying grey are far less informed that the folks here.

I agree. Most will be people who do not know how to protect themselves. Whether it be financial or bad/ no products.

 

[chmuse]

StairwayToGray

https://t.me/+aHgLqR_UsvZkZDhh

t.me

Two seconds of scrolling and I could've saved myself a DM

 

[indolent]

For those of you who've been in this game for awhile, what is the actual known result from people buying from random vendors found on the online Chinese marketplaces? Feels/tests?

My basic sense is to avoid, but then I realize I'm being kind of like any mass-media article/story about compounded GLP-1s or about grey market: lots of "may" "could" "might" "you don't know if" "" ""

 

[AndyPanda]

For those of you who've been in this game for awhile, what is the actual known result from people buying from random vendors found on the online Chinese marketplaces? Feels/tests?

My basic sense is to avoid, but then I realize I'm being kind of like any mass-media article/story about compounded GLP-1s or about grey market: lots of "may" "could" "might" "you don't know if" "" ""

I’m torn. It is risky to try new vendors, but I also think we will never find better vendors if we don’t occasionally try new ones.

 

[keangkong]

Seeing the two price lists that have been posted lately, it looks nobody is answering the call to step up. All I see is capitalizing on the current situation.

It’s called supply and demand. Currently the Chinese understand capitalism better than Americans do.

 

[P.Harum]

For those of you who've been in this game for awhile, what is the actual known result from people buying from random vendors found on the online Chinese marketplaces? Feels/tests?

My basic sense is to avoid, but then I realize I'm being kind of like any mass-media article/story about compounded GLP-1s or about grey market: lots of "may" "could" "might" "you don't know if" "" ""

First, I want to say that I'm new to this myself. I know this question was not directed at my
experience level.

I think you and I started this at the same time. We probably follow the same newbie path, buying from expensive but less-risk vendors that are available right now; at least, that's what I did. And when I did, all the things I read from experienced forum members came true. I paid too much and purchased too much due to panic buying. They warned me and didn't listen. But they wrote buying from these vendors also allows me to buy a tested and somewhat less risky product.

The mistakes allow gain information on how I will proceed in this: Too good to be true, don’t buy, listen to what experienced members say, pause and wait to see how it pans out, and I am definitely going to fucked over but make sure that it is my wallet, not my health.

 

[roxygirl]

I found QYC on Discord, seems to have a lot of action between quotes, price lists are available, reviews are good, looks like they run "promotions"? haha - reading past chats, members seem happy with products. prices look good to. I opened a DM with her, she was prompt. Hopefully someone will have had or has some experience with this company, I would like to find out more.
I haven't had any luck with getting to Stairway for Gray. Every link is expired, The frustration is REAL lol - Probably spent the last month lurking on Redditt, Discord & the 1 time i got into Telegram ( clicked a link, didn't join) Been reading post after post, probably have 15 names of vendors, website in China. Went to websites, sent email, received many answers. Some businesses are the same with different names. Rep names are always different, sometimes just a number.
So, im probably going to order from QYC this weekend, Ill let you know.

There’s a lot of insight in other posts about QYC.