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Alright, so a certain supplier has just released a flash sale of Reta 24mg kits for just above $1/mg. The catch is they lost power at some point in the process and the product has degraded to 98.9% after one month at Jano. Is this worth it to buy? The vials seem to be overdosed too to around 28mg. How would the lessening of purity affect dosing and efficacy of the product?
 
Buksos said:
Alright, so a certain supplier has just released a flash sale of Reta 24mg kits for just above $1/mg. The catch is they lost power at some point in the process and the product has degraded to 98.9% after one month at Jano. Is this worth it to buy? The vials seem to be overdosed too to around 28mg. How would the lessening of purity affect dosing and efficacy of the product?
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Those tests look odd.
Also, you can find non-degraded Reta for ~$1.00/mg that isn't sold by... that person. That's a win-win.

Ultimately, it's probably fine. However, if you want, scroll down to the bottom of that page and see the 99% guarantee and ask yourself why that's even there if they're selling peps under 99%?
 
Buksos said:
Alright, so a certain supplier has just released a flash sale of Reta 24mg kits for just above $1/mg. The catch is they lost power at some point in the process and the product has degraded to 98.9% after one month at Jano. Is this worth it to buy? The vials seem to be overdosed too to around 28mg. How would the lessening of purity affect dosing and efficacy of the product?
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Scratch and dent peptides! If it was double the price it's only a $2 difference per week at starting dose. As @peptideusername pointed out the guarantee doesn't jive. Why should the rest of the story? Why bother with blind trust for the price of a cheap coffee? You're gonna make up the difference in food savings (whatever GLP you take) to offset the expense of piece of mind.
 
Buksos said:
Alright, so a certain supplier has just released a flash sale of Reta 24mg kits for just above $1/mg. The catch is they lost power at some point in the process and the product has degraded to 98.9% after one month at Jano. Is this worth it to buy? The vials seem to be overdosed too to around 28mg. How would the lessening of purity affect dosing and efficacy of the product?
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Who is the vendor?
 
nonyabizznez said:
Scratch and dent peptides! If it was double the price it's only a $2 difference per week at starting dose. As @peptideusername pointed out the guarantee doesn't jive. Why should the rest of the story? Why bother with blind trust for the price of a cheap coffee? You're gonna make up the difference in food savings (whatever GLP you take) to offset the expense of piece of mind.
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Scratch and dent peptides 😂
 
I never, EVER cease to marvel at how you boys ( you might recognize yourselves, or not) have it in for Nexa. Discord/Pep World is full of BS’ers, A2Sholes, jerks, charlatans, people with weird fetishes; all these things are OK! Generally Fine! But….evil Cain. Fascinating.
 
Purity is not static, it continues to degrade. If some corners were cut during manufacturing, there's no guarantee it doesn't accelerate degradation.

Would I keep it in my freezer for a rainy day if someone gifts it to me? Sure. I'll also have no problem pinning it since I filter everything. Does loss of power mean sterility may be compromised? I don't know, do you? Would I pay almost the same price as for properly manufactured product? Absolutely not.
 
echohunter said:
Who else is selling Reta for ~$1/mg?
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QSC was selling reta for less than $1/mg. However, after shipping, it would cost more than $1/mg. QSC is . . . currently unavailable. SRY is charging slightly more than $1/mg for reta but that includes shipping. I recently ordered a kit of 30 mg for $330 from SRY.
 
Super Trips said:
its nexaph but most of this forum hates him i have no problem with cain and order reg from him
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I don't get the hate, if anything I appreciate the transparency so we can make informed decisions. I wouldn't order this power outage Reta but if someone else would, OK. They're comfortable with that level of "I don't know" type risk, I'm not. We all make our decisions.
 
hotdog! said:
I don't get the hate, if anything I appreciate the transparency so we can make informed decisions. I wouldn't order this power outage Reta but if someone else would, OK. They're comfortable with that level of "I don't know" type risk, I'm not. We all make our decisions.
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he got it retested with jano so its ok
 
I would be concerned with the product rapidly degrading like the R12 kit he replaced back in Oct/Nov.

Even if your dosing 12mg, a 24mg kit will last like 4 months. There is no telling what you will be pinning during month 4. This assumes you are on 12mg and most aren't. This seems like a big risk to save $5-$20 vial. Also, degraded GLP's aren't just weaker than not degraded, you could experience increased side effects from dosing a low-purity peptide.
 
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Without giving a personal opinion, here is the post. I'm not on reta yet so I have no skin in the game.
 
MarisWinter said:
I never, EVER cease to marvel at how you boys ( you might recognize yourselves, or not) have it in for Nexa. Discord/Pep World is full of BS’ers, A2Sholes, jerks, charlatans, people with weird fetishes; all these things are OK! Generally Fine! But….evil Cain. Fascinating.
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uh oh did someone disparage the sacred vendor? 😂 He sells peptides under 99% purity even though he has a 99% guarantee. Why even have the "guarantee" if you're going to sell around it? How silly.
He was Baba before he was Cain, anyways.
 
For the premium he charges and the "guarantee's" he makes, I would expect him to curate better quality goods.

Vials that range from underfilled to overfilled by nearly 20% isnt great, nor is the fact purity ranges from 99.6% to 98%

Theres no amount of "disclosure" that makes that ok in my opinion, and then charging people a premium price while doing so is crazy.
 
mopo89 said:
I find people who defend vendors to the death so strange. I have preferred vendors, sure, but as soon as they screw up and don't address the screw up adequately, I'm gonna throw them under the bus with the rest of them. Loyalty to a drug dealer is just strange. 😂
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my drug dealer only laces my drugs with a little fent ok!? Like chill out bro, hes cool

Disclaimer, that was just a joke, im not saying cain laces shit with fent.
 
Wasn’t a group of people 3rd party testing the nexa replacement Reta from months back to see if it degraded like the initial batch? I’m currently pinning the replacement Reta so just wondering
 
I’m not on reta but I would have to be down to my absolute last vial as CNY approaches to buy this. Whether or not other vendors are selling around $1/mg at this time is irrelevant (though, they are). The price is trending down and will get there eventually. Why buy this subpar product only to keep it in your freezer as the price eventually dips below $1/mg in the meantime? So unless you have absolutely nothing in the freezer and won’t make it until the end of February, why take up freezer space with this sale? Just wait a few weeks/months and the prices will be better and the product will certainly be better.
 
FreeSpectator8 said:
For the premium he charges and the "guarantee's" he makes, I would expect him to curate better quality goods.

Vials that range from underfilled to overfilled by nearly 20% isnt great, nor is the fact purity ranges from 99.6% to 98%

Theres no amount of "disclosure" that makes that ok in my opinion, and then charging people a premium price while doing so is crazy.
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here is a little thought these labs all over china make tons of chemicals and i bet the level of purity and sterile product will get affected by the shipping from a warehouse to your house some how some way nothing is perfect but NEXA is by far better choice than getting your name on the radar at all with CBP i'm living proof of barely getting a slap on the wrist for what i was doing because my setup was as close to perfect as i could get it. The new tech at the border is very real and up and running. I went to as far as making a clone company out of Denmark That shipped computer parts and cloned their packaging and after many years of trial and error had a pretty foolproof way of shipping things from Europe. But with the technology that we've got today and the money that they are throwing at customs and Border Patrol you are looking at a hell of a lot more risk now Ordering from China than ever before.
 
Super Trips said:
its nexaph but most of this forum hates him i have no problem with cain and order reg from him
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if this is true don't buy it. Their initial degraded reta kept degrading further. it was noticiable because after pinning 2-3 weeks it wasn't working. A lot of people reported eating their fridge on that reta (me included, I almost ate the dog too)
 
I read peptide degredation can break down into things that causes cancer and immune responses as well. But I wouldn't worry about Nexa his army of grandmas will buy that garbage up and pump it straight into their bodies.
 
Super Trips said:
here is a little thought these labs all over china make tons of chemicals and i bet the level of purity and sterile product will get affected by the shipping from a warehouse to your house some how some way nothing is perfect but NEXA is by far better choice than getting your name on the radar at all with CBP i'm living proof of barely getting a slap on the wrist for what i was doing because my setup was as close to perfect as i could get it. The new tech at the border is very real and up and running. I went to as far as making a clone company out of Denmark That shipped computer parts and cloned their packaging and after many years of trial and error had a pretty foolproof way of shipping things from Europe. But with the technology that we've got today and the money that they are throwing at customs and Border Patrol you are looking at a hell of a lot more risk now Ordering from China than ever before.
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You missed the part where it had nothing to do with the quality of the goods but with the fact he is charging an insane premium for what he is selling. 30mg is 300-330 from sry depending if you do US or CN warehouse, Nexa is charging 300 for SUBPAR 24mg.

He should have gotten a reship, or taken a loss on the shitty product, not sold it at above market rate to still line his pockets.
 
FreeSpectator8 said:
You missed the part where it had nothing to do with the quality of the goods but with the fact he is charging an insane premium for what he is selling. 30mg is 300-330 from sry depending if you do US or CN warehouse, Nexa is charging 300 for SUBPAR 24mg.

He should have gotten a reship, or taken a loss on the shitty product, not sold it at above market rate to still line his pockets.
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This 1000% he's making it look like its a great deal. By giving the "normal" price and his new discount price. Pretty shitty if you ask me

Edit to add: I also don't even believe his power outage story. It's not the first time he's sold degraded reta. Its an ongoing problem he doesn't know how to fix.
 
JohnnyGobbs said:
Wasn’t a group of people 3rd party testing the nexa replacement Reta from months back to see if it degraded like the initial batch? I’m currently pinning the replacement Reta so just wondering
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Yes, the vials should be headed to Jano this week (one of them is mine). I didn't buy from Cain but through a Raven GB. They probably would have shipped the two vials to Jano last week but I shipped my vial to the wrong street address (USPS returned it). When I realized the wrong address, I immediately shipped a second vial USPS overnight (for $38 frigging dollars) and it took a week to get from TX to NYC. (USPS SUCKS)

By the time Jano gets it and it is tested it will be almost three-months since manufacture. It will be interesting to compare it to the initial testing that Cain did on this batch.

Since you are pinning it, how has it been for you?
 
peptideusername said:
uh oh did someone disparage the sacred vendor? 😂 He sells peptides under 99% purity even though he has a 99% guarantee. Why even have the "guarantee" if you're going to sell around it? How silly.
He was Baba before he was Cain, anyways.
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This isn't Gator Land. People are allowed to criticize Cain.
 
Vicki said:
if this is true don't buy it. Their initial degraded reta kept degrading further. it was noticiable because after pinning 2-3 weeks it wasn't working. A lot of people reported eating their fridge on that reta (me included, I almost ate the dog too)
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Are you now taking more effective reta? I'm worried about your dog.
 
GimmeABreak said:
Yes, the vials should be headed to Jano this week (one of them is mine). I didn't buy from Cain but through a Raven GB. They probably would have shipped the two vials to Jano last week but I shipped my vial to the wrong street address (USPS returned it). When I realized the wrong address, I immediately shipped a second vial USPS overnight (for $38 frigging dollars) and it took a week to get from TX to NYC. (USPS SUCKS)

By the time Jano gets it and it is tested it will be almost three-months since manufacture. It will be interesting to compare it to the initial testing that Cain did on this batch.

Since you are pinning it, how has it been for you?
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Good to know! Thx for your due diligence. Curious of the results. I’ve pinned 1 vial of reta (I’m at 4mg) so far and it’s working as intended. So that’s good.
 
Cain must atone if the replacement batch is degrading. If not then he is exonerated. His fate hangs in the balance.
 

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Update as promised..... the "re-ship Reta" was tested by a group buy server on discord and has excellent specs..... no degradation whatsoever 3 months after production... nice to get some good news once in a while... here is the "Jano"
 

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morganite said:
Update as promised..... the "re-ship Reta" was tested by a group buy server on discord and has excellent specs..... no degradation whatsoever 3 months after production... nice to get some good news once in a while... here is the "Jano"
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Oddly, the vials sent to PT when Cain first received the batch tested >15mg. It could just be testing methods differ between labs but I thought it was notable. Nothing we can do about it because it did test >12mg & >99% but if you are storing for more than a year it would probably make sense to test it before you use it - at least to get the dosing correct.

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morganite said:
Update as promised..... the "re-ship Reta" was tested by a group buy server on discord and has excellent specs..... no degradation whatsoever 3 months after production... nice to get some good news once in a while... here is the "Jano"
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This is great news. Thx for testing! I’ve pinned one vial already so have been wondering.
 
AndyPanda said:
Damn. They ran out fast.
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That was from a month and a half ago. Not sure how long they were actually available for- I don't pay much attention to reta.
 
chmuse said:
It's hard when old threads get revived. I get a little jump scare every time someone gives a thumbs up to something I posted back in October. I was young then! I was more stupid than I am now! Don't listen to October chmuse!
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I go back and read my post and have no recollection of writing it... These damn fibrils and oligomers! Plus because I didn't get off the couch my entire weight loss gone are equal parts butt, belly and brain!
 
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