Enclomiphene Results (Month 1)

By the way, the Freudian theory for the more recreational steroid use at Meso is "go for the gains, stay for sex addiction." The funniest post was something like "Is anyone here for gains anymore?"
 
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That's a big total test gain for 12.5 EN. Seems like it works great for you, just keep that estrogen in check. Many of the peptide vendors have tabs, and grab some anastrozole.
 
You don't need to keep check estrogen in check if you're not having estrogen-related symptoms. The consequences of using too much AI to crush estrogen cna be as bad or worse as having high estrogen.
 
I started Enclo about 2 months ago. It came with a COA and good reviews. I started with 12.5 mg daily. I also stacking with tessa/ipmorelin. My total test went from 670 to 1170. My Estradiol went from mid normal to 58. Shbg was high at 82. Igf1 z-score was +0.03. To lower estradiol and shbg I lowered the dosage to 25 mg every 3 days. The estradiol and shbg stayed the same and total t dropped to 1050 Igf1 z-score bumped to +0.5. I ordered anastrozole and took .5 mg last night. I had a great workout today with new veins visible and less bloat. I feel more relaxed. I am also talking much less than before. I guess high estrogen makes you talk a lot? That makes sense. My ex-wife must have super high estrogen. She never stops talking.😧
 
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I tried Enclo for about 3 months because I wanted to maintain testicular function. Why I cared, I don't really know since I'm 42 and already snipped. I think it's just that masculinity gets tied into genitalia for some reason. Anyway, after 3 months, my total test went from about 350 to 600. But I felt even worse than before I started. For some reason my SHBG shot up which lowered my free test and tanked my E2. I'm still unsure how that happened as I was expecting a rise in E2 which is supposedly normal. My doc chalked it up to people are weird and sometimes react oddly to medication since everything else looked normal (slightly elevated ALT but nothing to worry about). But regardless of why, I felt horrible and got ED, was irritable all the time, and just not enjoying life. So I quit the Enclo about 2 months ago and then jumped on the TRT train. I'm now feeling amazing after only 3 weeks of 150mg of test-c.
 
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I was floored when I read the results. I could not believe it got my test that high in such a short amount of time. I didn't want to go straight to test, so I figured Enclo would be worth trying. I am probably retaining some water, but part of that is from MK677 and Tesamorelin also. My estrogen went up almost the exact same percentage as my testosterone, so I figured 41 wasn't too bad, although it was on the higher end of the reference range.
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If you are worried about estrogen you could take a aromatase inhibitor , anastrozole. This is commonly prescribed for TRT. If you have more visceral fat you will retain more estrogen as that is where is primarily stored.
 
Can someone please tell me in private if you wish a vendor that currently sells enclomiphene, because the ones I found they are sold out. Thank you
 
vewdew34 said:
Can someone please tell me in private if you wish a vendor that currently sells enclomiphene, because the ones I found they are sold out. Thank you
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Need this also. Most enclo is just clomid
 
vewdew34 said:
Can someone please tell me in private if you wish a vendor that currently sells enclomiphene, because the ones I found they are sold out. Thank you
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guster said:
Need this also. Most enclo is just clomid
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Never bought enclo from them but these are two sites that carry it , these are two sites that some gym bro buddies have recommended to me for some other things.

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And I bought some from here just on a whim really, though some of the products that they list make me really wonder what is going on.

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yrrdead said:
And I bought some from here just on a whim really, though some of the products that they list make me really wonder what is going on.

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That Carolina Chemical website is truly incredible LOL they even sell Tadalafil! What is going on?!

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bogardbilla said:
That Carolina Chemical website is truly incredible LOL they even sell Tadalafil! What is going on?!

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And the quantities .... would you like a kilo? Or a drum today?
 
yrrdead said:
And the quantities .... would you like a kilo? Or a drum today?
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Airborne Daddy said:
Ah the clomid therapy they've been using many years in Europe. In the US they can't wait to feed you testosterone and get that prostate swole. Impressive results, I had no idea it could double or triple your numbers.... I don't think the estrogen is high and if you feel well and aren't retaining water and have no sides then that works. I think we consider desirable estrogen between 10-40 but they say even 50 is ok.... when I blast aas I come in at 95 and take an aromatose inhibitor.
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Clomid gave me several side effects where testosterone gives me two that I notice. Clomid crazies (serious mental issues and I have no known mental health issues), rage, emotional reactions, acne, vision problems and puffy nipples. Testosterone gives me acne and slight thinning hair. No free lunch :{
 
bogardbilla said:
That Carolina Chemical website is truly incredible LOL they even sell Tadalafil! What is going on?!
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Yeah, we are living in an amazing time where you can accidentally overdose with anything. Like we have R140 coming soon, which people are not used to using. But it is cheaper, so....
 
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Airborne Daddy said:
Ah the clomid therapy they've been using many years in Europe. In the US they can't wait to feed you testosterone and get that prostate swole. Impressive results, I had no idea it could double or triple you're numbers.... I don't think the estrogen is high and if you feel well and aren't retaining water and have no sides then that works. I think we consider desirable estrogen between 10-40 but they say even 50 is ok.... when I blast aas I come in at 95 and take an aromatose inhibitor.
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Clomid gave me severe brain fog and mental sides plus other sides. But thinking Enclomiphene maybe a solution. Testosterone raises my hematocrit and hemoglobin too quickly. Anyone experience high hematocrit or hemoglobin on Enclomiphene?
 
yrrdead said:
I hadn't seen that before , is that good for cosmetic grade? I don't know the prices on that at all.
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Its about $60 per gram from most vendors and theirs is $78 for 10g. It says it's Thermotolerant Escherichia Coli , Staphylococcus Aureus and Pseudomonas Aeruginosa Negative so it sounds like a good deal. It can't be any worse that what's out there from the China grays.
 
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Its about $60 per gram from most vendors and theirs is $78 for 10g. It says it's Thermotolerant Escherichia Coli , Staphylococcus Aureus and Pseudomonas Aeruginosa Negative so it sounds like a good deal. It can't be any worse that what's out there from the China grays.
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SSA/SRY Sold me raw GHKcu for just $10/g... Those were the days
 
MTSpace said:
Clomid gave me severe brain fog and mental sides plus other sides.
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This is common with Clomid due to raised estradiol.
Anastrozole supplement is one answer.

I was on Clomid and had the same reaction that you mention. I did not want to take another drug so I switched to Enclomiphene last year. Problem solved. Side effects gone. Testosterone up. Hematocrit and hemoglobin were always stable and healthy and remained stable and healthy.
 
sheilarae74 said:
Its about $60 per gram from most vendors and theirs is $78 for 10g. It says it's Thermotolerant Escherichia Coli , Staphylococcus Aureus and Pseudomonas Aeruginosa Negative so it sounds like a good deal. It can't be any worse that what's out there from the China grays.
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Really? Its just cosmetic grade. I can get it for $11 a gram right now on a retail site. and $13-15 on a couple others. Lyophilized injectable, now, that averages about $60 a kit (GHK-CU-50).
 
MTSpace said:
Clomid gave me severe brain fog and mental sides plus other sides. But thinking Enclomiphene maybe a solution. Testosterone raises my hematocrit and hemoglobin too quickly. Anyone experience high hematocrit or hemoglobin on Enclomiphene?
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I did. Was not a fan of enclo. If you try it I would take a conservative dose. Harder to control than T injections. Estrogen also rose to 103 and downstream effects messed up my thyroid.
 
I know you mentioned a lower dose and yes, consider the 6mg (roughly 1/4 of your current 25mg pill). 6mg results are often similar to the 12.5mg as I understand, still a nice 300-400 boost.
 
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