Endotoxin Warning

[BNLFL]

Went to search TG for FSD, what a shit show!
They're catching heat on STG and will either get right of get gone.

FSD?

 

[RetCurious]

FSD?

The vendor kicking people out for bringing jano test results to their channel.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

Went to search TG for FSD, what a shit show!
They're catching heat on STG and will either get right of get gone.

Im not giving them any leeway but i would pin that. Was it 535 or 545.... so a 15mg pin is 270 say. Thats acceptable and under the 5 per kg for a 132lb person. Like i said though, if we let that fly then 1000 will be next. Maybe 150 or less is reasonable?

 

[nighthawk98]

Im not giving them any leeway but i would pin that. Was it 535 or 545.... so a 15mg pin is 270 say. Thats acceptable and under the 5 per kg for a 132lb person. Like i said though, if we let that fly then 1000 will be next. Maybe 150 or less is reasonable?

But what ELSE is wrong with it? We did not test sterility, and while filtering SHOULD catch everything there is still a risk. Plus many people are taking more than one. Imagine takingthis and "high" NAD/KLOW/Elora/etc at the same time?

 

[Aterna13]

I did two separate ones....so my expenses are a bit more than the average for this one.
I sent one to Fin-n-Rick as I have never used them before and I was curious to the results.
It cost $140 to tack on endo testing, they sent it to Krause it came back with 99.9% pure and <0.5 endos....I also sent a vial to Freedom Diagnostics $225 mass/purity $170 for endos.
The only difference in results, Freedom came back with 99.867% purity.
Janoshik report that came with the vial showed 99.822% purity

By the way, I used KBR - super responsive and great. I independently paid for test with ACS Lab and my Tir kit came back 99.9% pure.

 

[Bjd4162]

As much as group buy organizations can be a shitshow (sooner or later), there's something to be said for those that have been around a long time, handled lots of problems well, have a large enough customer base / sales volume, AND are ethical enough to make 2.5th party testing (wide and deep) possible.

In related news, I'm glad I have a 6 year supply of tirz on hand, so I can read the archived coroner's Certificates of Expiration before using a kit.

Hopefully you have magic Tirz that last more than the typical 2 years in the freezer.

 

[Bjd4162]

I want to discuss that blaring banner at the top of the forum...but it isn't a discussion thread.

How many here regularly test for endotoxins? I admit, I do not. I haven't had an issue (yet) but this does concern me that I am potentially missing
a safety signal.

For those who have been testing endos regularly, how often have you noticed concerning results?

For those, like me, who haven't been testing are you considering bringing this on board or continuing with yoloing?

We all know that most US resellers do not test of endotoxins, just mass and purity...no big flags showing up on the socials regarding issues with products
which probably had something to do with my own complacency.

Thoughts?

I'm glad you brought this up too. I've been doing peps for more than 3 years - endotoxin testing is the new hype. 3 years ago, 2 years ago - it was rare for anyone to complain of sickness from peptides - from endotoxins. No Chinese vendor guarantees that will pass, and with the math calculation endos for 1 person could be nothing but for another could be something that leads to what exactly? An injection site reaction... There is no huge illness going around for endos in peptides... I guess maybe not yet one could say. Could also be another way for labs to make more money when the worst that could happen is an ISR. Peps been around for a long time... just now getting mainstream.

 

[5byfive]

Hopefully you have magic Tirz that last more than the typical 2 years in the freezer.

First if all, all Tirz is magic. Second, based on what we know about the compound and peptides in general, the consensus seems to be well stored Tirz should be good for a decade.

 

[BrightCandle]

There is no huge illness going around for endos in peptides... I guess maybe not yet one could say.

Our body has been attacked by gram negative bacteria all our lives and so our immune system has antibody and cells targeting those LPS. A small amount of it will simply cause an immune system response locally. But its raising the inflammation signalling of the body as it does it which is never good. A large amount of it however could lead to a severe reaction that could lead to hospitalisation or worse. They definitely aren't benign there is a standard for them for a reason.

 

[birdwhacker]

Getting the wrong peptide due to a vendor mixup is one of my nightmares (like the people who got adipotide instead of…reta (?) if I remember right).

I think getting the wrong peptide is the most legitimate fear in the peptide world. The chances of getting enough bacterial contamination to actually get an infection are rock bottom. High endos, I'm not really scared of that. But getting swapped peps, that could actually happen.

 

[birdwhacker]

Hopefully you have magic Tirz that last more than the typical 2 years in the freezer.

2 years is the lower end of how long it will last in your kitchen cabinet. Try 20 in the freezer, assuming no temperature fluctuations or moisture incursions.

 

[Justatechdude]

Went to search TG for FSD, what a shit show!
They're catching heat on STG and will either get right of get gone.

Yeah I’m looking to find a recap.
I just bought a few different kits from them and am in test groups now.

I know they had fucked up a few orders including mine and then wanted me and others to ship back the kits to get them replaced. But I didn’t know there was other drama

 

[Rdg1970]

I've posted my issues with this in another thread, but TL DR, pinned orange cap T30, started feeling really sick (nausea, GI issues up the yin yang), but would feel better a few days after...then I'd pin again. After the 3rd pin and feeling by far worse, I looked up the symptoms and everything matched bacillary dysentery. Whether it was actually it, I can't prove, but I went to a completely different vendor who didn't use the same manufacturer, no issues after that.

How do you know which vendor uses which manufacturer? And don’t they support each other some times, swap product if someone is short?