First time buying…

[Skydweller007]

So after getting all of my peptides from my local wellness clinic, I’ve finally made my first purchase with a vendor that seems to be (at least from everything I’ve been able to see on this forum) a trusted source. My question to you folks who have been buying for a while: this vendor tests with Janoshik, like many others. Would it still behoove me to send in vials from the kits I’m getting, to run my own tests with Janoshik? Have any of you ever purchased from a known vendor, and sent in vials where you have obtained different results than the ones posted on their websites? It’s actually costing more to test than what it is to buy the product so I’m a little conflicted.

 

[Benito Camela]

I’m in the same boat, it seems it all comes down to risk tolerance. There have been controversies even with established sellers. I’ve spent a lot of time deciding, even going through all the published Jano tests on his site to compare vials. I also read that most providers are just resellers and that most of the product comes from only two factories. In the end, it really comes down to how much risk we’re willing to take.

 

[Skydweller007]

I’m in the same boat, it seems it all comes down to risk tolerance. There have been controversies even with established sellers. I’ve spent a lot of time deciding, even going through all the published Jano tests on his site to compare vials. I also read that most providers are just resellers and that most of the product comes from only two factories. In the end, it really comes down to how much risk we’re willing to take.

When you look at the testing, and obviously you have the purity test, endotoxin, and sterility, if you’re running those all through Janoshik, it seems that the testing costs far outweigh the cost of the product. You would still be at a cheaper, price point per vile, compared to retail vendors like peptide sciences or Certified Peptides, but it’s something to consider

 

[PopTart]

I bet if you searched for “testing groups” and similar terms on this forum, you’ll find options to share testing costs with other researches who purchased from the same batch.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

Live on the edge. Just grip it and rip it!

 

[thebigmess]

Horrible advice.

If you bought the peptides from a vendor from China, regardless of the COA, it would be wise to send in 1 vial of it to get tested to a testing lab of your choice. This will give you peace of mind, that what you’re about to inject into your body is indeed what it says it is.

Sending to Vanguard or Freedom is quick, easy and less expensive than sending to Jano.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

Sarcasm doesn't do well written.

That's why I load up a syringe and just start blasting.

 

[Skydweller007]

Horrible advice.

If you bought the peptides from a vendor from China, regardless of the COA, it would be wise to send in 1 vial of it to get tested to a testing lab of your choice. This will give you peace of mind, that what you’re about to inject into your body is indeed what it says it is.

Sending to Vanguard or Freedom is quick, easy and less expensive than sending to Jano.

Freedom doesn’t have any information on their website about costs. But with Vanguard, I’m assuming you would want to do the purity, the endotoxin and the sterility? Those come out to a little bit more than Janoshik if you’re doing all of those. Or maybe not all of those that need to be done?? What is universally suggested? Also, it’s not from China, but probably the biggest vendor outside of China.

 

[cookieguggleman]

So after getting all of my peptides from my local wellness clinic, I’ve finally made my first purchase with a vendor that seems to be (at least from everything I’ve been able to see on this forum) a trusted source. My question to you folks who have been buying for a while: this vendor tests with Janoshik, like many others. Would it still behoove me to send in vials from the kits I’m getting, to run my own tests with Janoshik? Have any of you ever purchased from a known vendor, and sent in vials where you have obtained different results than the ones posted on their websites? It’s actually costing more to test than what it is to buy the product so I’m a little conflicted.

Did you verify the Jano tests yourself on the Jano website? Or just use the JPEG of the test they provided you?

I got my first batch last week from a different vendor. I think I'm going to go for it without testing. Wish me luck!

 

[indolent]

I’m assuming you would want to do the purity, the endotoxin and the sterility?

Janoshik (I forgot the owner's actual name) stated that they've virtually never found endotoxin or sterility issues with grey-market peptides, and that it's a waste of money to add those tests. For routine batch testing, purity and mass are important.

 

[PopTart]

Sending to Vanguard or Freedom is quick, easy and less expensive than sending to Jano.

Just know that most vendors who test through Jano will only accept test results from Jano in the event that 3rd party test results fall below their minimum guarantees.

Variability in test results is common across testing companies for various reasons.

So while you may save money using a domestic testing service, you may end up spending more money if your vendor requires testing from Jano in order to receive new product because of failed test results.

 

[peptideusername]

Have you seen situations where somebody bought from a vendor who tested with Janoshik, and then tested with Janoshik, and received conflicting results?

Too often.

 

[peptideusername]

Just general advice for testing:

• never explicitly trust vendor testing
• don't waste money on heavy metals or endotoxin testing
• probably not sterility either. especially since you can filter around this.
• vanguard is a joke for testing. Idk about patriot labs or whatever the newest fly-by-night lab is, but vanguard has been shown to generate numbers based on expectation and not testing results.