For those of you that decided to go Grey market, I have a question

[ThatNextGril]

I have hoarding tendencies (I keep it under control) and the thought of losing access to something important to me is frightening to me.

With the legal fight, I was just having to live with too much anxiety about something happening to compound and me not being able to get it without spending all my money on it.

Now, unless someone wins a court battle that allows them to poke through my freezer, I have access for ten years that cannot be taken away from me.

I don't lean towards hoarding in general, but I do tend to buy a back up of something I really like in case it stops getting made. (Random case in point, a model of Nike trainers that I bought at an outlet once like 12 years ago. They were the most perfect shoes for my feet ever - I could literally walk an entire day, miles and miles, even without socks, with nary a blister or sore spot. I scoured the internet and bought the 6 remaining pairs I could find online. Still have 2 pairs today but will mourn them dearly when they're worn out).
That said, I cannot fathom life without a GLP1 drug, specifically tirz at this point, quieting the food noise. I've been keeping clothes in larger sizes "in case" I gain weight and need them again. After all, that's what always has happened in the past when I've dropped a size or two. I have to remind myself it doesn't ever have to be that way again and I really can clean out the closet. I've got just over 5 years of tirz, but am still going to get at least 3 more kits to feel I have a decent safety net.

 

[Calm Logic]

I can't tolerate the high doses of GLPs, but if I did, I would definitely be hoarding more with GBs for T100 and R100. There is always a GB lately for T100. And I'm sure there will be another GB for R100 sooner or later.

I can maintain my weight on less than 5 mg of tirz per week. But I have maybe another 30 pounds to lose.

At this point, Big Pharma feels ripped off if they aren't getting at least $1k or $2k a month for a medication, even for oral medications for some relatively common conditions. So they can fuck themselves, along with the insurance companies and the federal government.

 

[LabRatts]

Not for nothing, but every Ibuprofin/aspirin/NSAID anyone has taken this century was likely made in China/India by the same labor and infrastructure that are producing peps. Covid really opened a lot of folks eyes with regards to safety/efficacy/gatekeeping/censorship/control (etc/etc/etc). I'm freaking thrilled to have been clued into peps in general and even more stoked to have stumbled upon this amazing forum. Kudos to those who have kept me entertained and informed while I am enjoying reading old posts during my getting up to speed on becoming "Gary the Gray" and furthering the wife and I's journey into enhanced wellness.

 

[BH_LOVER]

Money is my motivation. And not wanting to spend more of it than I have to

 

[mlke6]

I've been keeping clothes in larger sizes "in case" I gain weight and need them again.

I'm still wearing my larger clothes! I did have to invest in new belts. Jeans are so pricey and the thought of just replacing them I can't stand. Usually they would already be trashed but since my thighs have no chance of rubbing anymore they are lasting longer than three months.... Wow. Just realized my current jeans have lasted over a year. Haven't had that happen in a long time.

 

[Summer48]

Started Mounjaro feb25 went from 2.5mg all the way up to 15mg before anything hit in. Cost wasn’t too bad I’m retired and just had to cut down on buying stuff. Then September cost more than doubled and I knew I was out of the game so searched for ways to buy at cheaper prices and landed in this forum ( soooo very happy I did) and I’ve probably already bought quite a few years worth of a few things. Haven’t used any yet as I had stock piled the mj pens when I was aware prices were going up so I easily have over a years worth of pens but grandson started a little after me so will pass them onto him and I will started the other stuff next month. Yes of course I was a little concerned about the grey stuff but I’m 79 and maybe just maybe I will get to live a lot longer using peptides or just maybe they will get to end my life sooner than expected but I’ve got this far and so far so good. Also I know I’m on them until I take my last breath or they lock me up so I can’t get to them

 

[Need_to_shrink]

All great replies here! Thank you all for sharing your experiences and your thoughts on going Grey. I’m learning a ton from you all. I started my first shot last night, today. I plan on going online and buying quite a bit more this week.

 

[Ruckus4519]

Still on the research phase, but this feels like the only option I have, given constraints. I wanted enough to wean off if it ever comes to that.

Never been on GLP meds. Chose tirz specifically because it seemed a step above sema, but having still gone through more testing than reta. Bonus is the resiliency of the peptide itself during storage.

I’ve seen a lot of claims that it prevents a lot of death, but quality of life throughout matters too. And there’s a lot of fatphobia in medicine that presenting with any sort of symptoms, the number one advice would’ve been to lose weight anyway.

 

[WeezinDaJuice]

Anger at having to spend $500 a month out of pocket for a drug to treat a legitimate medical issue when my insurance company was already get more than $3000 a month drove me to the grey market. Its not tirz though. I am taking sema and reta currently. I do have a kit of tirz in my freezer though.

As for why I trust it .. if people were being injured by grey market GLP1s it would be shouted from the mountaintops. But all I have ever heard were whispers of people being successful.

At the end of the day we are trusting someone that we are getting a medication that is going to help us. Does it matter that we are trusting a Chinese business instead of a pharmaceutical corporation?

That freezer of yours must be a whopper!

 

[m100568]

For those of you that ended up going gray market for tirzepatide, why did you decide to go this route?

What did it take to get you to the point where you were comfortable with it and what convinced you of the safety of it?

I’m just curious, as every now and again I have my moments of “should I do this “.

I can afford name brand. I realize that I am fortunate that way. I just don't enjoy being raped by big pharma.

It took me a month or so to research the grey market to feel comfortable with it. I am also fortunate enough that I can afford to do 3rd party testing myself. I don't have to guess what I'm getting. I know.

I understand that other people may not be in the financial position to test their own. If that were me I would still go grey, but I would do group buys.

The other consideration is that the grey market opened up a whole world of peptides that I never would have considered before. I'm not sure if that is a good or bad thing. I think I've replaced an eating disorder with a peptide disorder.

 

[MFGamesta]

I can afford name brand. I realize that I am fortunate that way. I just don't enjoy being raped by big pharma.

It took me a month or so to research the grey market to feel comfortable with it. I am also fortunate enough that I can afford to do 3rd party testing myself. I don't have to guess what I'm getting. I know.

I understand that other people may not be in the financial position to test their own. If that were me I would still go grey, but I would do group buys.

The other consideration is that the grey market opened up a whole world of peptides that I never would have considered before. I'm not sure if that is a good or bad thing. I think I've replaced an eating disorder with a peptide disorder.

When you get test results, please post links to results with the vendor and pep!!!!

 

[fatty33]

I have hoarding tendencies (I keep it under control) and the thought of losing access to something important to me is frightening to me.

With the legal fight, I was just having to live with too much anxiety about something happening to compound and me not being able to get it without spending all my money on it.

Now, unless someone wins a court battle that allows them to poke through my freezer, I have access for ten years that cannot be taken away from me.

How many mgs do you have? I need to count mine. I have more coming. I am just wondering how much 10 years worth is. 🙂

 

[fatty33]

I was not willing to pay $1000 to $1500 per month and I just goggled glp1 to find more information because I kept creeping up in weight and I could not keep going that way and I used to be totally against glp1s because of the scare tactics of some saying you could go blind get cancer ect. I am now a hoarder. I have 2.4 years worth of Tirz and 300 mg of reta. I guess I need more to be in the big leagues. I am going to be purchasing a lot more of both!

 

[Not_Your_Dad]

I was not willing to pay $1000 to $1500 per month and I just goggled glp1 to find more information because I kept creeping up in weight and I could not keep going that way and I used to be totally against glp1s because of the scare tactics of some saying you could go blind get cancer ect. I am now a hoarder. I have 2.4 years worth of Tirz and 300 mg of reta. I guess I need more to be in the big leagues. I am going to be purchasing a lot more of both!

XL has a Tirz 120mg kit now. I'm tempted for the Mrs.!

 

[ThatNextGril]

XL has a Tirz 120mg kit now. I'm tempted for the Mrs.!

120! I didn't realize vendors were going that high now. I'm assuming at least 10ml vials? And at current recommended max dose of 15mg, that's 8 weeks. I know tirz is more resilient than the other GLPs, but I've always leaned towards usage by at most week 6. Or would you and Mrs both use it? (I'm just being nosy, but 120 is...a lot lolll)

 

[Not_Your_Dad]

120! I didn't realize vendors were going that high now. I'm assuming at least 10ml vials? And at current recommended max dose of 15mg, that's 8 weeks. I know tirz is more resilient than the other GLPs, but I've always leaned towards usage by at most week 6. Or would you and Mrs both use it? (I'm just being nosy, but 120 is...a lot lolll)

The sides from Tirz at 10mg + have been kicking my ass. I'm almost entirely switched over to Reta (pinned 6mg today, I'm titrating up 2mg every other week til I get to 8). I'll probably take my last dose of Tirz on Monday. So it would just be her. She's going to 17.5 mg / week which will be dosed at 8.75 mg every 3 days so I think the 120s would be ok. We had no trouble keeping reconned Tirz for 6 weeks in the past.