Freeze drying vs new vacuum drying

[Lullabytreehugger]

So there are two methods that the industry standard currently uses.

Both involve freezing the peptides. In short you have vacuum drying which is the newer and better method or the old standard of lyophillization.

Are there any vendors that currently uses vacuum drying?

Vacuum drying offers higher purity levels, higher stability at different temperatures, and upon reconstitution with bac water you will have less denaturalization such as foam or molecular breakage when diluted.

See freeze drying (lyophillazation) is not as good as vacuum dehydration.

We should ask for vacuum drying. Yes it costs more to make but it will offer a higher quality peptide.

 

[penewbie]

Both involve freezing the peptides. In short you have vacuum drying which is the newer and better method or the old standard of lyophillization.

Vacuum drying offers higher purity levels, higher stability at different temperatures, and upon reconstitution with bac water you will have less denaturalization such as foam or molecular breakage when diluted.

See freeze drying (lyophillazation) is not as good as vacuum dehydration.

Source?

 

[glpfun]

This is totally a situation where a source is warranted, clearly not an opinion they think they are expressing, bad panda, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and as a community we should strive to present evidence

 

[Lullabytreehugger]

An opinion? On freeze dying vs Vaccum drying?

Oh, so it's completely worthless then?

Ok.

Dont believe me? Ask the vendors yourself.

Cost of vacuum dehydration is considerably more but you get a higher quality product in the end.

Have you ever seen inside the bottle of korean botox? Hardly any powder at all right? You might even think you got scammed?

No sir that is vacuum dried and the powder is in the vial but a very small amount compared to regular lyophilisation!

Top botox brands of korea now have transitioned to vacuum drying. The product costs more yes but look at the research and see how better the final product is.

The regular companies still do regular lyophilisation and the quality is still really good and it passes KFDA quality control but it is no match for vacuum drying.

Regular 100u korean tox $50 a vial
Premium quality korean 100u vacuum dried tox $85

When I went to South Korea last month, they have pop in clinics where they do 20 min quick botox injections. You can choose the quality that you want.

For your entire face you can get the cheaper freeze dried tox for $150USD (a full 100u and you can specify which areas you want injected) or you can choose a more premium vacuum dried botax for 200usd.

I chose the premium tox for 200 usd and the lady did a fantastic job! Back home here in aus I would pay $1300AUD for same treatment. So about 850USD.

 

[glpfun]

There’s greater risk of degradation with vacuum drying, it’s the cheaper approach and doesn’t provide as long term stability as freeze drying. I wouldn’t look at what black market botulism vendors are doing to cut costs as gospel. There’s a reason that freeze drying is the standard in us pharmacies. Also vacuum drying isn’t new it was used starting in the late 19th century

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

… ok, for those of you who were doing something worthwhile with your Saturday, you missed this thread devolve into an angry junk show in record time. All that has been removed. I have left any comments that didn’t include attacks, political remarks, disses about your mom (not even kidding), or general assholery.

I’m unlocking the thread, y’all can try the discussion again, kindly skip the personal attacks please and thank you.

 

[penewbie]

The product costs more yes but look at the research and see how better the final product is.

I specifically asked you to source your OP.

Where is this research you are talking about with regards to peptides?

 

[DwightTheDelight]

… ok, for those of you who were doing something worthwhile with your Saturday, you missed this thread devolve into an angry junk show in record time. All that has been removed. I have left any comments that didn’t include attacks, political remarks, disses about your mom (not even kidding), or general assholery.

I’m unlocking the thread, y’all can try the discussion again, kindly skip the personal attacks please and thank you.

Man, bee, there were some good insults and personal attacks in there too! Now they are all gone

THIS SUCKS!

 

[Revo39564]

So there are two methods that the industry standard currently uses.

Both involve freezing the peptides. In short you have vacuum drying which is the newer and better method or the old standard of lyophillization.

Are there any vendors that currently uses vacuum drying?

Vacuum drying offers higher purity levels, higher stability at different temperatures, and upon reconstitution with bac water you will have less denaturalization such as foam or molecular breakage when diluted.

See freeze drying (lyophillazation) is not as good as vacuum dehydration.

We should ask for vacuum drying. Yes it costs more to make but it will offer a higher quality peptide.

 

[Revo39564]

Vacuum drying typically uses heat . Lyophilization is done under a vacuum and freezing which is better for glp / proteins/ biological products……

 

[Revo39564]

Dont believe me? Ask the vendors yourself.

Cost of vacuum dehydration is considerably more but you get a higher quality product in the end.

Have you ever seen inside the bottle of korean botox? Hardly any powder at all right? You might even think you got scammed?

No sir that is vacuum dried and the powder is in the vial but a very small amount compared to regular lyophilisation!

Top botox brands of korea now have transitioned to vacuum drying. The product costs more yes but look at the research and see how better the final product is.

The regular companies still do regular lyophilisation and the quality is still really good and it passes KFDA quality control but it is no match for vacuum drying.

Regular 100u korean tox $50 a vial
Premium quality korean 100u vacuum dried tox $85

When I went to South Korea last month, they have pop in clinics where they do 20 min quick botox injections. You can choose the quality that you want.

For your entire face you can get the cheaper freeze dried tox for $150USD (a full 100u and you can specify which areas you want injected) or you can choose a more premium vacuum dried botax for 200usd.

I chose the premium tox for 200 usd and the lady did a fantastic job! Back home here in aus I would pay $1300AUD for same treatment. So about 850USD.

The legit Botox is lyophilized under a vacuum. If the vial doesn’t have a vacuum when drawing it up it is supposed to be thrown away .