GHKCU for surgery repair?

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I have read that GHKcu is really good for repair after surgeries
  • Collagen and elastin production (strengthens the new stomach wrap and hiatal closure)
  • Angiogenesis (better blood flow to the healing tissues)
  • Reduced inflammation and oxidative stress (helps calm post-surgical swelling and bloating)
  • Tissue remodeling (helps the repair heal with better quality and potentially less scar tissue)
In my case I just got done this Tuesday the Nissen Fundopllication due to very bad acid reflux the past three years, in my surgery the surgeon highlighted that I had very little visceral fat compared to other patients which I think it was bc I have been on HGH the past 2 months.

Do any of you have any insights with this peptides being used after surgery.
 
The stem cells were from my fat cells. With the sleeve gastrectomy, I went down from 140 kg to 102. That's around 80lbs then I was forced to take the Covid shot. 40lbs gained after that. Lost 12lbs since then. I paid around 2000 dollars for the stem cell treatment.
Damn that's a good price, I can see why you went to India. I know medical tourism is a thing.
 
Yeah guys, about that... Rotator cuff tears and biceps tendinosis are all tendon tears, not muscle tears. BPC & TB-500 work mainly through increased angiogenesis, i.e., new blood vessel creation to promote increased nutrient flow to the area. But tendons are hardly vascular with very little blood supply. IMO, I focus on tendon hyperplasia training along with the BPC-TB injections to try to recover. Tendon strengthening is different from muscle hypertrophy. Massive collagen consumption is needed too.
 
Well that is a wild commonality! One of my PTs mentioned the stem cell therapy but finding someone locally that can do that is near impossible and those who do are not on my insurance, which would really be needed to cover the amount of that stuff.

I did not have any further issue with the shoulders in relation to the sleeve, that was really just from falling hard with bad catches, and also working out enough over the years to continue making it worse.

The KLOW thing is more of a "I want the skin benefits from that" vs the rest of it, the repair quality in addition was what was like ok maybe that over GLOW.


My insurance covers WLS if you meet the comorbidities, but not GLPs unless youre diabetic and tried literally every option available first. WLS was required for me to get my back fixed though, and I wish I'd done it when I originally looked into it several years prior. Unfortunately, skin removal is not covered for any reason at all, so I'd have to cash pay or go overseas and if there are complications, my insurance would not cover those because I did cash pay or went overseas. My stomach is where most of it is, and it's not tremendously awful, but I do wear compression to keep it locked down. Unfortunately that also smashes what little chest I have left lol


I took those photos when I got them, because I was SO EXCITED they were so perfect. I have a guy that has made all my good customs, and I am trying to not come up with any more "ideas."
It's funny, all the things I had to pay for originally (WLS, Plastics, Tirz etc) Were covered like 10 years later after my company got bought out. I had a gynecomastia, umbilical hernia repair & what I thought was a tummy tuck. Of course this was the surgery where I had a Pulmonary Embolism, spent 9 days in the hospital and kinda almost died (some great memories)

Two things in all seriousness, if you go that route. There is a procedure called a Panniculectomy (what I had) it just gets the worst of the excess off, it can save you alot of money. At least here, some of the weight loss surgeons will do it really cheap for there patients or some plastic surgeons do it for a good price. I regained a 140lbs after my plastics operation, wish I woulda had Tirz at the time and I could have plastics again now uggh! Or if you go the tummy tuck route, visit multiple surgeons and find ones that specialize in patients that have lost alot of weight. We now have the tools, to help us stay in check. I'm alllll about a good compression shirt too☺️

Sorry, not trying to sound preachy. I had a shitty experience and would hate for someone to repeat it. I got the batwings, but can't fly.
 
Yeah guys, about that... Rotator cuff tears and biceps tendinosis are all tendon tears, not muscle tears. BPC & TB-500 work mainly through increased angiogenesis, i.e., new blood vessel creation to promote increased nutrient flow to the area. But tendons are hardly vascular with very little blood supply. IMO, I focus on tendon hyperplasia training along with the BPC-TB injections to try to recover. Tendon strengthening is different from muscle hypertrophy. Massive collagen consumption is needed too.
I've been drinking 10mg of collagen and supplementing some as well. I take 10mg of Tadalafil and nitric oxide to help with blood supply. Might be something to consider as well.
 
Errr...yeah I am also originally from there. Amongst everything else, I also wanted to start a micro-mini mango farm.
That's cool, my coworker is from Kerala. I know her family really well, somehow I got adopted by them (long story) and been to many parties and a couple local festivals with them. I have a lot of respect for your culture and the food of course.
 
That's cool, my coworker is from Kerala. I know her family really well, somehow I got adopted by them (long story) and been to many parties and a couple local festivals with them. I have a lot of respect for your culture and the food of course.
WTF!!! I'm from Kerala too.😀😃😮.. Ah yes, the food. The original spice capital of the world.

About 10g of collagen, that could be the issue. I have been taking near 30grams, but also type of training is crucial too. Oh yes, I love cialis and NO. Thank you. I'll try putting my AI-crafted recommendation below. I'm using the BPC/TB 500 with this type of training.

Yes. The best evidence says collagen can help tendon remodeling, but only modestly and only when paired with the right loading stimulus. A true pooled meta-analysis is difficult because the studies use different tendons, doses, training styles, and outcomes; even the 2026 systematic review chose narrative synthesis for this reason. (MDPI)

Best-supported practical conclusion​

For tendon growth/CSA:
5–15 g/day collagen peptides + progressive heavy resistance training for 12–15 weeks has the strongest signal.
For tendon stiffness/material quality:
15–30 g hydrolyzed collagen or collagen peptides + vitamin C, timed ~60 minutes before tendon-loading exercise, looks more promising than low-dose collagen. The 2026 review found higher-dose studies, especially 30 g with vitamin C, were more likely to improve stiffness/Young’s modulus, while ~5 g often improved tendon size but not stiffness. (MDPI)

What the studies collectively suggest​

GoalBest evidence-supported approach
Tendon CSA/growthProgressive resistance training, 3×/week, 12–15 weeks
Tendon stiffnessHigh-load resistance, likely ≥70% 1RM, possibly eccentric-biased
Collagen dose15 g/day is the practical minimum target; 30 g may be better for stiffness
Timing~60 minutes before loading is biologically most logical
Add vitamin CYes, at least 50 mg; many studies used 50–500 mg
Training aloneWorks; collagen is an adjunct, not the main driver
Muscle strengthCollagen usually does not add strength beyond training

Study-by-study pattern​

The Jerger Achilles tendon trial used 5 g collagen peptides daily with 14 weeks of high-load resistance training. Achilles tendon CSA increased more with collagen than placebo, about +11.0% vs +4.7%, but stiffness and strength improved similarly in both groups. (Universität Wien)
The Balshaw patellar tendon study used 15 g collagen peptides daily with 15 weeks of lower-body resistance training, but found no extra benefit over placebo for tendon size or mechanical properties, though both groups improved tendon stiffness and Young’s modulus from training. (SHURA)
The Lee female soccer study used 30 g collagen hydrolysate + 500 mg vitamin C around training and found improved patellar tendon stiffness/Young’s modulus but not CSA. The 2026 review notes that the lack of CSA effect may be because elite soccer players already had high habitual tendon loading. (MDPI)
The Nulty study appears especially important because it used 30 g collagen hydrolysate + vitamin C with lower-body resistance training and reported increases in patellar tendon CSA, stiffness, and Young’s modulus. (MDPI)
The 2024 Sports Medicine meta-analysis found a significant pooled effect for tendon morphology with collagen peptide supplementation, but not for tendon mechanical properties overall; it rated certainty for tendon outcomes as very low because of heterogeneity and small samples. (Springer)

Best training style for tendon adaptation​

The winning pattern is not bodybuilding-style high-rep pump work. Tendons respond best to high mechanical strain.
A practical tendon-strength protocol would look like:
3 days/week, 12–16 weeks
Use slow, controlled heavy loading for the target tendon:
For patellar tendon:
  • Leg press
  • Squat or hack squat
  • Knee extension
  • Spanish squat or heavy isometric holds
For Achilles tendon:
  • Standing calf raise
  • Seated calf raise
  • Heavy eccentric calf lowers
  • Isometric calf holds
Use approximately:
  • 3–5 sets
  • 6–10 reps
  • 70–85% 1RM
  • Slow tempo, especially controlled eccentric
  • Progress load over time
The review’s included protocols commonly used 3 sessions/week and intensities around 70–85% 1RM, with examples including knee extension, calf raise, leg press, squats, deadlifts, and progressive lower-body resistance training. (MDPI)

Best collagen protocol​

Most evidence-informed version:
15–30 g collagen peptides or hydrolyzed collagen
+ 50–500 mg vitamin C
~60 minutes before tendon-loading training
3–7 days/week for at least 12 weeks

Why timing matters: collagen amino acids such as glycine, proline, and hydroxyproline peak roughly around an hour after ingestion, and vitamin C supports collagen cross-linking chemistry. (MDPI)

My verdict​

For tendon remodeling, the best-supported stack is:
Heavy, progressive tendon-specific resistance training + 15–30 g collagen + vitamin C taken about 1 hour before training.
For tendon size, 5–15 g may be enough.
For tendon stiffness/quality, I would favor 15–30 g, with 30 g looking most promising but not yet definitively proven.
The most important variable is still loading. Collagen without proper tendon strain is unlikely to do much.
 
WTF!!! I'm from Kerala too.😀😃😮.. Ah yes, the food. The original spice capital of the world.

About 10g of collagen, that could be the issue. I have been taking near 30grams, but also type of training is crucial too. Oh yes, I love cialis and NO. Thank you. I'll try putting my AI-crafted recommendation below. I'm using the BPC/TB 500 with this type of training.

Yes. The best evidence says collagen can help tendon remodeling, but only modestly and only when paired with the right loading stimulus. A true pooled meta-analysis is difficult because the studies use different tendons, doses, training styles, and outcomes; even the 2026 systematic review chose narrative synthesis for this reason. (MDPI)

Best-supported practical conclusion​

For tendon growth/CSA:
5–15 g/day collagen peptides + progressive heavy resistance training for 12–15 weeks has the strongest signal.
For tendon stiffness/material quality:
15–30 g hydrolyzed collagen or collagen peptides + vitamin C, timed ~60 minutes before tendon-loading exercise, looks more promising than low-dose collagen. The 2026 review found higher-dose studies, especially 30 g with vitamin C, were more likely to improve stiffness/Young’s modulus, while ~5 g often improved tendon size but not stiffness. (MDPI)

What the studies collectively suggest​

GoalBest evidence-supported approach
Tendon CSA/growthProgressive resistance training, 3×/week, 12–15 weeks
Tendon stiffnessHigh-load resistance, likely ≥70% 1RM, possibly eccentric-biased
Collagen dose15 g/day is the practical minimum target; 30 g may be better for stiffness
Timing~60 minutes before loading is biologically most logical
Add vitamin CYes, at least 50 mg; many studies used 50–500 mg
Training aloneWorks; collagen is an adjunct, not the main driver
Muscle strengthCollagen usually does not add strength beyond training

Study-by-study pattern​

The Jerger Achilles tendon trial used 5 g collagen peptides daily with 14 weeks of high-load resistance training. Achilles tendon CSA increased more with collagen than placebo, about +11.0% vs +4.7%, but stiffness and strength improved similarly in both groups. (Universität Wien)
The Balshaw patellar tendon study used 15 g collagen peptides daily with 15 weeks of lower-body resistance training, but found no extra benefit over placebo for tendon size or mechanical properties, though both groups improved tendon stiffness and Young’s modulus from training. (SHURA)
The Lee female soccer study used 30 g collagen hydrolysate + 500 mg vitamin C around training and found improved patellar tendon stiffness/Young’s modulus but not CSA. The 2026 review notes that the lack of CSA effect may be because elite soccer players already had high habitual tendon loading. (MDPI)
The Nulty study appears especially important because it used 30 g collagen hydrolysate + vitamin C with lower-body resistance training and reported increases in patellar tendon CSA, stiffness, and Young’s modulus. (MDPI)
The 2024 Sports Medicine meta-analysis found a significant pooled effect for tendon morphology with collagen peptide supplementation, but not for tendon mechanical properties overall; it rated certainty for tendon outcomes as very low because of heterogeneity and small samples. (Springer)

Best training style for tendon adaptation​

The winning pattern is not bodybuilding-style high-rep pump work. Tendons respond best to high mechanical strain.
A practical tendon-strength protocol would look like:
3 days/week, 12–16 weeks
Use slow, controlled heavy loading for the target tendon:
For patellar tendon:
  • Leg press
  • Squat or hack squat
  • Knee extension
  • Spanish squat or heavy isometric holds
For Achilles tendon:
  • Standing calf raise
  • Seated calf raise
  • Heavy eccentric calf lowers
  • Isometric calf holds
Use approximately:
  • 3–5 sets
  • 6–10 reps
  • 70–85% 1RM
  • Slow tempo, especially controlled eccentric
  • Progress load over time
The review’s included protocols commonly used 3 sessions/week and intensities around 70–85% 1RM, with examples including knee extension, calf raise, leg press, squats, deadlifts, and progressive lower-body resistance training. (MDPI)

Best collagen protocol​

Most evidence-informed version:
15–30 g collagen peptides or hydrolyzed collagen
+ 50–500 mg vitamin C
~60 minutes before tendon-loading training
3–7 days/week for at least 12 weeks

Why timing matters: collagen amino acids such as glycine, proline, and hydroxyproline peak roughly around an hour after ingestion, and vitamin C supports collagen cross-linking chemistry. (MDPI)

My verdict​

For tendon remodeling, the best-supported stack is:
Heavy, progressive tendon-specific resistance training + 15–30 g collagen + vitamin C taken about 1 hour before training.
For tendon size, 5–15 g may be enough.
For tendon stiffness/quality, I would favor 15–30 g, with 30 g looking most promising but not yet definitively proven.
The most important variable is still loading. Collagen without proper tendon strain is unlikely to do much.
I'm lucky enough to have a made a couple of good friends over the years from different countries where I work, I've gotten to try food the way they make it vs what they serve in a restaurant. I'm more about quality of food at this point, than quantity.

Damn bro, you're on top of it. I'm gonna book mark this, so I can come back too it. I'll need to make some dietary adjustments, Thank you🙂

I can start strength training 5/1, I was hoping for sooner as my range of motion is well ahead of schedule and I don't have to wear that arm sling anymore. They don't want me to push it though and nice to be able to type with two hands again.
 
I'm lucky enough to have a made a couple of good friends over the years from different countries where I work, I've gotten to try food the way they make it vs what they serve in a restaurant. I'm more about quality of food at this point, than quantity.

Damn bro, you're on top of it. I'm gonna book mark this, so I can come back too it. I'll need to make some dietary adjustments, Thank you🙂

I can start strength training 5/1, I was hoping for sooner as my range of motion is well ahead of schedule and I don't have to wear that arm sling anymore. They don't want me to push it though and nice to be able to type with two hands again.
Mate, that bit about food quality is spot on. Oh yeah do as you need. I'm a lazy ass so I put my collagen and glutamine into my mega whey protein shake. And for the important bit, the training. Look up Dr.Andy Galpin, Dorian Yates, Time under Tension. Now here are the magic words-overcoming isometrics, and the miracle words- Slow stretching eccentric Partials. Thank me later.
 

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