Gone grey!

Bjd4162 said:
I hate the questions about filtering. If someone feels like they need to filter - they do not need to be in the gray market. Nurses don't even do that.
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You accused this forum of being cliquish before, but you seem more divisive than most to me.

Bjd4162 said:
and even an anesthesiologist... who love and use peptides from the gray market, without filter needles.
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Most people who have gone gray in the last few years do so for affordabilty for GLPs. Other peptides are nice and all, but I certainly wouldn't be here if I could afford $500 a month for Zepbound, month after month, year after year.
 
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Pinmebaby1moretime said:
Yeah sure!

So the first thing I did was search here the word filter/ filtering and read what others said! Then I went to chatGPT and tried to find what filter is best for my peptides. It even told me step by step how to filter.

Thing is- I’m a girl who frequents med spas and there are some horror stories about contaminated injections even in those professional settings. I’ve also worked in the burn unit of a hospital where I’ve seen more than one person come in with flesh eating bacteria exposure and it’s never something I’m willing to risk. Like I’ll spend a dollar on a filter, sue me.

Sterility is not guaranteed in grey market. Can we guarantee that each lab follows GMP? Equipment is properly autoclaved, the environment is completely sterile etc.

Even if there is no bacteria there could be micro particles. Glass, dust, residual byproduct…Just months ago, we found out red dye was added to some lipo-c.

Improperly sealed? Any exposure to moisture will grow bacteria. I just saw a TikTok of a state side kitchen peptide seller (pharmatech07) saying his sealing device is broken and held together by rubber bands:
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So anyways… 22 µm low protein-binding filter (PVDF or RC).

Here’s the ones I bought: https://amzn.to/4ensiza

Here’s the sterile vials I bought:
2mL amber: https://amzn.to/44afc4Y
10mL amber: https://amzn.to/44qNeAO

The amber provides another layer of protection from light degradation of your peptides so I opted for those!

If anyone is upset I’m using filters, please touch grass ❤️
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This. Everyone’s risk tolerance is different. I think with all you’ve seen you are smart for taking that extra precaution.

Just my two pennies😏
 
Bjd4162 said:
Good point, seems that if someone were that concerned, the gray market would give them massive anxiety. Majority of pep users do not but I always hear different things on this forum.
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Precisely why I will always comment on new users and let them know that filtering is a good idea. It’s called harm reduction. Isn’t it good to share that knowledge? I truly don’t get your gripe here…
 
Bjd4162 said:
Good point, seems that if someone were that concerned, the gray market would give them massive anxiety. Majority of pep users do not but I always hear different things on this forum.
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It's just up to the individual's discretion. Everyone has a choice. No matter what anybody says, "Do this or don't do that", the individual has the choice to do or don't. They choose what's good for them, and nobody will change their mind. People have to make themselves content, and what they choose to do is up to them, and I respect that.
 
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lurchy123 said:
I'm interested to hear about the filtering. I have read a few things where people have mentioned but what are you filtering out? I'll follow what you're doing sounds logical to freeze it pull it out 30mins prior. I'm going to use a pen for mine cause it's nice and convenient and I've got loads of the pins already so that'll stay in the fridge loaded like a normal Kwik pen. I was going to keep the bac water in the fridge also
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When you filter it removes any stray bacteria or contaminants that might be in the vial. Some filter, some don’t, but if you have an impaired immune system it’s a good idea. There are also filter needles to use if drawing something up from a glass ampule (my glutathione comes with ampules of vitamin C that I use to recon them with), and the filter needles prevent tiny shards of glass from going into your peps. If you are interested in getting filtering supplies, many people sell the kits. There is a vendor called Underground that sells filtering kits and another vendor called All things Peptide, to name 2. Underground also sells hospital bac water for less than you’d pay many places. I’m sure there are other vendors, but I use Underground and I found the other one I names when I started looking into pens for my peps.
 
FlowerFairy said:
When you filter it removes any stray bacteria or contaminants that might be in the vial. Some filter, some don’t, but if you have an impaired immune system it’s a good idea. There are also filter needles to use if drawing something up from a glass ampule (my glutathione comes with ampules of vitamin C that I use to recon them with), and the filter needles prevent tiny shards of glass from going into your peps. If you are interested in getting filtering supplies, many people sell the kits. There is a vendor called Underground that sells filtering kits and another vendor called All things Peptide, to name 2. Underground also sells hospital bac water for less than you’d pay many places. I’m sure there are other vendors, but I use Underground and I found the other one I names when I started looking into pens for my peps.
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I had no idea! I was wondering how you could filter something so fine! Everydays a school day 👌 thanks for explaining you never learn if people don't share what they know
 
SassyPants said:
If you go to the search function up top you can search and find these questions asked and answered a dozen different ways. In case you didn’t know. Good luck to you.
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Yes but the problem is in order to function on this forum you need to earn likes otherwise you cannot post anywhere so by engaging with people you get to chat learn and get the likes so you can become a proper member of the forum.. if I did as you suggested I wouldn't be able to post
 
lurchy123 said:
Yes but the problem is in order to function on this forum you need to earn likes otherwise you cannot post anywhere so by engaging with people you get to chat learn and get the likes so you can become a proper member of the forum.. if I did as you suggested I wouldn't be able to post
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I didn’t realize the search function does not function without likes. Apologies if that’s the case. Good luck!
 
You do have the arrogant personality of a vendor/dealer. I hope you get busted.

If you are a nurse yourself, the prosecutor may be less likely to give you a break on the fines and length of probation.
 
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nonyabizznez said:
If people would replace the word 'filter" with "condom."

"I hate the questions about condoms. If someone feels like they need to use a condom - they do not need to be in bed."

Ask any "don't wanna be a dad" waiting in the car at the abortion clinic or child support hearing if not using a filter condom was worth it.


I really like the 4mm Ks-tek ones from AliExpress! With the tariff issues they've settled back down to about $90 for 100 shipped. So for the record we have their vials and cartridges tested sterile by Janoshik as well. Ks-tek has a website now for ordering direct.
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nonyabizznez said:
If people would replace the word 'filter" with "condom."

"I hate the questions about condoms. If someone feels like they need to use a condom - they do not need to be in bed."

Ask any "don't wanna be a dad" waiting in the car at the abortion clinic or child support hearing if not using a filter condom was worth it.


I really like the 4mm Ks-tek ones from AliExpress! With the tariff issues they've settled back down to about $90 for 100 shipped. So for the record we have their vials and cartridges tested sterile by Janoshik as well. Ks-tek has a website now for ordering direct.
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When you bought your KS tek filter, we're they the luer lock ones?

Their listing doesn't show it but one of the pics on the reviews does show it. Jinteng is the brand?
 
Calm Logic said:
I certainly wouldn't be here if I could afford $500 a month for Zepbound, month after month, year after year.
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Exactly. The only reason I was even able to TRY wegovy from the pharmacy was due to me having a health savings account just sitting around doing nothing. Even then there was only enough money there for 6 months @ $500 a month. Then what was I going to do? I was always going to end up on the grey market .. so I took the plunge 4 months earlier. Who knows what I might need the $2000 still in the HSA for in the future.
 
I have a sincere question, not debating the filter vs not filtering. Going with just, say, Tirz. We get it freeze dried in a vial. We mix in bac water that has .9% Benzyl. Would that not kill any bacteria? Not talking about all the other crap that could be in it. Just the bacteria that could potentially eat your flesh.
 
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christa_channing said:
I have a sincere question, not debating the filter vs not filtering. Going with just, say, Tirz. We get it freeze dried in a vial. We mix in bac water that has .9% Benzyl. Would that not kill any bacteria? Not talking about all the other crap that could be in it. Just the bacteria that could potentially eat your flesh.
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My understanding is the benzyl alcohol does not really kill things already in the vial, it just prevents new things from growing.
 
Soccerdude said:
When you bought your KS tek filter, we're they the luer lock ones?

Their listing doesn't show it but one of the pics on the reviews does show it. Jinteng is the brand?
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Ks-tek is the brand and they're luer lock. I originally bought them from AliExpress but Ks-tek has them available on their website:

https://ks-tek.com/products/sterile-hydrophilic-syringe-filters-pes-membrane-0-22μm-pore-size-4mm-diameter-25pcs-100-pcs-individually-packed-by-ks-tek?variant=46763773755611
 
christa_channing said:
I have a sincere question, not debating the filter vs not filtering. Going with just, say, Tirz. We get it freeze dried in a vial. We mix in bac water that has .9% Benzyl. Would that not kill any bacteria? Not talking about all the other crap that could be in it. Just the bacteria that could potentially eat your flesh.
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I'm usually not the "you should google that" guy, but I'm trying to get ready for a trip and don't have as much time as I'd like to explain it with as much detail as I normally try to; but anyway google the difference between bacteriostatic and bactericidal and hopefully that will help clear things up a little for you.
 
I am researching peptides for the same reason a lot of people are. When my compounding supply dried up I didnt have a lot of choice on maintenance after losing 40 pounds and dropping two blood pressure meds, and now off of metformin after 6 years
I do worry about using this stuff from some Chinese lab somewhere.
But sure dont want to go back. I filter for what good that may do. At least I have done all I know to do
 
ZippityDooDah said:
I'm usually not the "you should google that" guy, but I'm trying to get ready for a trip and don't have as much time as I'd like to explain it with as much detail as I normally try to; but anyway google the difference between bacteriostatic and bactericidal and hopefully that will help clear things up a little for you.
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LOL. As a technician I'm constantly googling and I am always wondering why people don't google the simple things. Sometimes I ask because maybe other people would also like to know.

"No, bacteriostatic water does not kill bacteria; it inhibits bacterial growth. When mixed with peptides, bacteriostatic water helps maintain the peptide's integrity and prevents bacterial contamination, but it doesn't eliminate existing bacteria."
 
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