Grey more effective?

[EllenRipley]

Has anyone ever reached 10, 12.5 or 15 on compound, switched to grey and felt it was more effective? And maybe was able to go down in dose with grey even if you weren’t at goal but was still losing? Compound doesn’t seem as potent. Maybe I’m just over thinking it.

 

[brisket]

Often gray is not accurately filled, for example a 15mg vial i had tested was actually 18mg. 20% stronger than what i was labeled as.

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

the compounder could be shorting you

 

[EllenRipley]

I'm starting to think that. I'm on the last vial of compound I have left. After that, I'll be switching to grey for good.

 

[SassyPants]

I'm starting to think that. I'm on the last vial of compound I have left. After that, I'll be switching to grey for good.

Welcome to the dark side

 

[heatherL]

I'm starting to think that. I'm on the last vial of compound I have left. After that, I'll be switching to grey for good.

I'm pretty sure the compounders were shorting most people. I swear, I went from 5 to 7.5 and it was like I went backwards. Then I went to 10mg with the next vial and OMG ... it was as if I had quadrupled the dose.
It was always so random which really made me think I either had mislabeled vials or the vials were just severely weak in the beginning.

 

[d0se1]

As stated, before grey is almost always over filled. So most people take more then they think they do.

 

[brisket]

I'm pretty sure the compounders were shorting most people. I swear, I went from 5 to 7.5 and it was like I went backwards. Then I went to 10mg with the next vial and OMG ... it was as if I had quadrupled the dose.
It was always so random which really made me think I either had mislabeled vials or the vials were just severely weak in the beginning.

Raw tirzepatide, even from a FDA approved facility, is relatively cheap. The majority of test results I've seen for real pharmacies have be fairly accurate (mg per ml). Most pharmacies include overfill (eg 3.5ml in a 3ml hallendale vial).

There is no reason for a real pharmacy to short anyone, they are making a ton of money off of it. Shorting someone would save relatively little and put them at regulatory risk.

 

[heatherL]

Raw tirzepatide, even from a FDA approved facility, is relatively cheap. The majority of test results I've seen for real pharmacies have be fairly accurate (mg per ml). Most pharmacies include overfill (eg 3.5ml in a 3ml hallendale vial).

There is no reason for a real pharmacy to short anyone, they are making a ton of money off of it. Shorting someone would save relatively little and put them at regulatory risk.

I should have been more clear ... well, more specific ... in the last year (maybe a little less) there have been multiple issues with the "compounding" world. Your 503B pharmacies and most 503A pharmacies I wouldnt expect to distribute under-filled vials. However, the "compound" world doesn't just include 503A/B pharmacies. It should. But the reality is, what people believe is the "compound" world includes online weight clinics and walk-in weight/health spas. A handful of the online weight loss clinics and the majority of those walk-in weight loss clinics (that I swear used to be "pain clinics" before that world got shut down) will issue a vial of lyophilized powder and a reconstitution kit with instructions and video links to their website or YouTube channel for directions.
THAT portion of the "compounding world" is the one that I have more issues with from a quality and safety standpoint. There's been arrests made all over the US for people peddling no-trace vials, severely under potent vials, etc and "selling/providing" them to these weight loss clinics. Then they hand them out with or without knowing if they've been tested or not. I think the handful of online weight loss clinics that do the same are just labeling the exact same vials we're all buying gray and sending them out to people that have NO IDEA that this world (gray) even exists and what we do in this world to protect ourselves and mitigate risk to the best of one's ability. Those people are just blindly pinning with all the trust in the people that issued it to them.

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

I should have been more clear ...

yea, i'm having trouble reading this so not that clear yet.

 

[indolent]

yea, i'm having trouble reading this so not that clear yet.

Summary: there are
(a) real compounding pharmacies which are state-licensed and run by actual pharmacists, and
(b) strip-mall operations and the like which are often run by predatory morons

 

[Mr. Smith]

Likely because your vials are over-filled and you are dosing higher than what you think.... I will admit, my compound Sema 2.5mg did nothing... The Grey, I felt it...

And, I was using a nationally recognized compounding pharmacy working with my family Dr.

 

[keangkong]

As stated, before grey is almost always over filled. So most people take more then they think they do.

That depends. If they rely on testing, then they adjust the amount of BAC water to add BAC water based upon the amount of the GLP-1 drug in the vial that was tested.