Grey Tirz costs me nothing...

[FarmgirlRebel]

I recently got covered 100% for Zepbound. I honestly have mixed feelings about it 😆
I like doing grey and reconning my own vials...oh well, I had a couple years of Tirz in the freezer and now I'm selling them off to friends and family at cost...but this makes me nervous.
So I'll restock up and just keep it on hand. People get dropped all the time, so that's my back up plan and I'm sticking to it...2-3yrs of Tirz in the freezer at all time...maybe some Reta as well.

 

[MsGizmo]

All the case reports and studies I have found so far are caused by dosing errors, either just calculating doses wrong or just using too much too soon, and there are quite a few of them. This is the only one I have found so far not caused by that problem, and caused an intensive care admission, so was obviously life threatening. I would be very surprised if this is the only time something like this has happened but it is definitely rare.
Hypoglycaemic coma induced by a falsified semaglutide product: a case report
We present a case of a 31-year-old woman who was admitted to the emergency room in a hypoglycaemic coma after self-administrating semaglutide (Ozempic) obtained from a website. Toxicological analysis showed that the vial contained insulin instead of semaglutide, therefore leading to severe hypoglycaemia.
DOI: 10.1136/ejhpharm-2025-004656

I would love to read the full story of that one. It sounds more like an intentional attempted murder than a error.

I mean just 1 person getting insulin instead of semaglutide?

 

[theoretical_maximum]

Just going to point out that there hasn't been some tragic mass of people dying from grey market GLP1s. Millions of people taking them .. but are people getting hurt? That's the main thing that convinced me.

Every case I have heard about someone with a GLP related injury 99% of the time they did something stupid. They either took too much or ignored the warning signs of a problem because they were desperate to lose weight. Honestly the same thing can happen with retail anyway. The real difference is if there is going to be someone to sue afterwards.

Yeah, it was a combination of this (is the product real, is it contaminated or adulterated, etc etc) and also just...legal? concerns. I recognize that glps aren't scheduled substances, it's not like trying to import MDMA or PEDs, but yeah.

Side note: Do you all have this stuff shipped to your home address?

 

[DjJoshua]

But Lily would argue that it's much cheaper than it was at $1200 to $1500 per month! I loved it when my PCP sent me to get compounded products and said "EL can take the hit on this. What was their last quarterly earnings report?"

LLY can take a hit. I got 15 shares back at $248. to-date it's up 314%

 

[joseblo]

I recently got covered 100% for Zepbound. I honestly have mixed feelings about it 😆
I like doing grey and reconning my own vials...oh well, I had a couple years of Tirz in the freezer and now I'm selling them off to friends and family at cost...but this makes me nervous.
So I'll restock up and just keep it on hand. People get dropped all the time, so that's my back up plan and I'm sticking to it...2-3yrs of Tirz in the freezer at all time...maybe some Reta as well.

Yep, I was on ZepB for almost a year and then "formulary change" and even with prior authorization they denied any coverage. I had been given a few months warning by a friend on the same insurance they were having trouble with approval so I started working with Brello before coverage ended, and then transitioned to grey. I'm not going back. They offered free Wegovy a couple of months ago. Don't trust the bastards!

 

[Speak_Easy]

I got to thinking today about the cost of all this. And the more I pondered, I realized that I have spent much less on Grey than if I would've kept the same pace of Dr.'s appointments and paid the $200 a pop each time.
It's really amazing to think that my health has done a complete 180 and it costs me less than before🙂

Yeah, it’s kinda amazing. My brother is on Zepbound and it costs him $400+ a month. So that’s about $33 a dose of 2.5. The most I’ve paid for Tirz (once I went grey) was about $.50 a mg or $1.25 a 2.5 dose. I could probably get it cheaper, but I prefer US warehouses bc I don’t want a letter from customs. Regardless, the cost of grey is pretty amazing.

 

[HereKittyKitty]

But Lily would argue that it's much cheaper than it was at $1200 to $1500 per month! I loved it when my PCP sent me to get compounded products and said "EL can take the hit on this. What was their last quarterly earnings report?"

Just remind them they cut their costs and raised their selling price. I'm sure their margins are still very fat and happy.

 

[lessthanhalf]

I would love to read the full story of that one. It sounds more like an intentional attempted murder than a error.

I mean just 1 person getting insulin instead of semaglutide?

I did try to find the original full paper, not just the abstract, but if it exists it might be in Italian and I could not find it.
You would think there should be more than one case if it were a mislabelled batch, and why would there be only one if that was what happened. It is not like only a rare personal reaction to get sick from a sudden dose of insulin. Still the only paper I have found showing harm from something that was not a ignorance/dosing issue.

 

[MsGizmo]

Yeah, it was a combination of this (is the product real, is it contaminated or adulterated, etc etc) and also just...legal? concerns. I recognize that glps aren't scheduled substances, it's not like trying to import MDMA or PEDs, but yeah.

Side note: Do you all have this stuff shipped to your home address?

Yes, everything comes to my house. I have only bought from US suppliers so nothing is going through customs.