Group buy question and observation (or maybe a question of an observation)

[HoopFan]

Been watching a group buy discord for a bit. Is it normal for the group buy vendor to not disclose the vendor for the buy, even after it’s closed? This one didn’t even include batch numbers or anything related to tracking the product for other third party tests for comparison.

Just not used to the secrecy. Also there are some vendors I would not want to trust buying from at the moment.

 

[ladyj779]

Been watching a group buy discord for a bit. Is it normal for the group buy vendor to not disclose the vendor for the buy, even after it’s closed? This one didn’t even include batch numbers or anything related to tracking the product for other third party tests for comparison.

Just not used to the secrecy. Also there are some vendors I would not want to trust buying from at the moment.

The group buys I'm currently watching are special orders, done for the group, and include testing of these specific batches. Could that be the case with what you're watching?

It also seems like there are secondary middlemen communicating/negotiating with the producers or possibly even another middle man who then negotiates with producers. I'm not too worried about it, if only because of the included testing.

I've never done a gb but will likely pull the trigger this weekend.

 

[bright]

Just out of curiosity. How much cheaper do they offer the stuff in group buys compared to normal prices?

 

[ladyj779]

Just out of curiosity. How much cheaper do they offer the stuff in group buys compared to normal prices?

With my extremely limited insight of approximately one week reading months of telegram gb threads: some are very very good pricing, particularly for higher or custom dose or blend peps. And some I'm like, I can get that cheaper from a vendor today. Mostly the former, but a couple I'm like meh. But add in the automatic/mandatory testing that accompanies it for a seemingly nominal fee ($10-15), it's understandable.

 

[woundcarping]

GB Vendor could want to protect their sources as proprietary. Also when they let people know the vendor people invariably harass that vendor directly about details regarding the buy... I could see that continuing after the delivery.

I'm a dealer for some products and I deal directly with the mfg but some other dealers go through distributors. The distributors are generally never known about, thus they don't have to deal with any retail communications which can save a lot of hassle. The mfg usually says talk to your dealer, the dealer handles the problem. In this example the GB Vendor is the dealer, the distributor is the vendor, and the mfg is rarely known.

 

[woundcarping]

Just out of curiosity. How much cheaper do they offer the stuff in group buys compared to normal prices?

Like with anything, it depends.

Recent pricing, rounded.
T30= $.23/mg
R30= $.37/mg
T140= $.14/mg
R140= $.23/mg

 

[bright]

that's not too bad. thx woundcarping

 

[Terminix8]

Perhaps I'm in the wrong places for these things. Haven't really picked up on any GB type groups. I'm open to the prospect but not actively looking for them. Any general recommendations on avoiding scammy people in the GB space?

 

[greenwave1015]

Like with anything, it depends.

Recent pricing, rounded.
T30= $.23/mg
R30= $.37/mg
T140= $.14/mg
R140= $.23/mg

How does one actually use T140/R140? splitting with others and/or into smaller vials?

 

[ladyj779]

How does one actually use T140/R140? splitting with others and/or into smaller vials?

With tirz at least there are currently clinical trials at 20 and 25mg doses a week, so it becomes less crazy to think about. But sure, sharing or splitting reconned vials it makes sense.

 

[greenwave1015]

With tirz at least there are currently clinical trials at 20 and 25mg doses a week, so it becomes less crazy to think about. But sure, sharing or splitting reconned vials it makes sense.

25mg????????

I'm curious where the max dose ends up settling in these trials.

 

[5byfive]

All the ones I have seen have disclosed but, as was pointed out earlier, their may be valid reasons for the decision. I think most disclosed because, if its a known good vendor, it is a selling point. Personslly, i think it would only make sense to go into a group buy with an unknown source if the prices were substantially better than you could get in other group buys with a known source. I still wouldn't do it, but if the price is good enough, I could understand why someone would do it.

 

[BNLFL]

GB Vendor could want to protect their sources as proprietary. Also when they let people know the vendor people invariably harass that vendor directly about details regarding the buy... I could see that continuing after the delivery.

This is spot on, and getting more popular.

 

[SoCalGirl]

Been watching a group buy discord for a bit. Is it normal for the group buy vendor to not disclose the vendor for the buy, even after it’s closed? This one didn’t even include batch numbers or anything related to tracking the product for other third party tests for comparison.

Just not used to the secrecy. Also there are some vendors I would not want to trust buying from at the moment.

It is not secrecy. A lot of people try to contact the vendors directly for better pricing, for questions about delivery times, and all the annoying things. Thus, the GB vendor will keep the vendor undisclosed until after testing. Because there is a subset of people that just. can. not. behave!