GYC shipping vials with zero peptides detected

Wow, yeah I can't believe that they put tampering accusations out as an official explanation. I am also a devoted believer in both Occam's and Hanlon's, so I assume that someone made a big mistake in manufacturing, resulting in zero peptide products. Imo their smartest move would have been to say "lab mistakes were made and we'll make it right by reshipping" while tacking on a statement that they are also "investigating possible warehouse FF sabotage." That would have made the best of a crappy mistake.
 
LouiseBelcher said:
I spend the entire day freezing, wearing layers, and wrapping myself in blankets. But I sleep so incredibly hot. I sleep in a tank top and undies with two fans on full blast pointed right at me and still wake up drenched in sweat. My room is cold, if I kick the blanket off me then I'm immediately freezing. It's one or the other, no middle ground over here.
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Same...
 
hotdog! said:
Wow, yeah I can't believe that they put tampering accusations out as an official explanation. I am also a devoted believer in both Occam's and Hanlon's, so I assume that someone made a big mistake in manufacturing, resulting in zero peptide products. Imo their smartest move would have been to say "lab mistakes were made and we'll make it right by reshipping" while tacking on a statement that they are also "investigating possible warehouse FF sabotage." That would have made the best of a crappy mistake.
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Yes, but aren’t all tests done post delivery?

That shows a willingness to falsify post delivery / pre ship to customer results.

I’d never give a second chance to any firm fudging testing.
 
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Well that would indicate either no testing was actually done (my vote bc it involves the least effort) or they were tested and saying "FUCK IT, falsify tests and ship the zero peptides anyway." Either way, yes, big fuck up. And I wouldn't fault anyone for not trusting that vendor.
 
hotdog! said:
Well that would indicate either no testing was actually done (my vote bc it involves the least effort) or they were tested and saying "FUCK IT, falsify tests and ship the zero peptides anyway." Either way, yes, big fuck up. And I wouldn't fault anyone for not trusting that vendor.
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Likely that they relied on a false test from their supplier, and tried to pass it off under a 2nd party test they did on another batch.

The only issue is it's supposedly super cheap and easy for them to test it in China (just not with a lab that any of us would trust) but it would have saved them this massive headache.
 
keangkong said:
Yes, they definitely should have tested the product in China.
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Which is the thing that's still not making sense to me. Either they are really dumb for trusting there supplier or their is some thing missing from the story.
 
Windingroads06 said:
I could probably staff a full weight loss clinic 12hrs a day 7 days a week and be fully booked every day . The demand is truly that high.
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That’s what my OB clinic did. They had so many women with PCOS who couldn’t get approved for brand, so they opened up a “stealth clinic” just for their own patients. The bought had a local hospital pharmacist doing the compounding.
 
zpped said:
Which is the thing that's still not making sense to me. Either they are really dumb for trusting there supplier or their is some thing missing from the story.
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My guess is they are most definitely just a reshipper based on this whole thing, and I have FULL expectation that easy money is generally lazy until you are burnt. The question is how badly are they burnt for the future (my guess is pretty bad at this point). But as we can see this didn't ONLY affect GYC, hopefully it drives some kind of smarter checks? I honestly think there is nothing wrong with being a reshipper for a production place and I personally wouldn't mind saying that's what I did, but I guess customers want to believe that there are 100's of medium scale production labs selling gray market drugs from China.

If you have never had any issues, why would you ever bother to test your supplier (THIS IS SARCASM).

This is why I generally don't do crypto with these vendors and I'll gladly pay a small surcharge for alibaba pay (ability to do a chargeback if I get screwed). I am going to guess it's going to be a month or 2 before I finally get good reta from them that I paid for.

Human behavior is just electricity with more steps
 
Nikki nik said:
Sooooo were you able to give a try? Mine will be here tomorrow 🎊
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Not yet - I have not gotten an order together. I was kinda hoping there would be some amazing deals on other stuff and make a big order, but idk if that is going to happen. I might jsut have to make a small order with PT-141. Do let me know how it goes for you.
 
ZakAP said:
Not yet - I have not gotten an order together. I was kinda hoping there would be some amazing deals on other stuff and make a big order, but idk if that is going to happen. I might jsut have to make a small order with PT-141. Do let me know how it goes for you.
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Ok I decided to go domestic. Keep you updated!
 
Nikki nik said:
Ok I decided to go domestic. Keep you updated!
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I actually considered that - thought it might not be terrible to get one vial to try first. I was not sure how bad the domestic mark-up would be and if it wouldn't just be cheaper to get from China and wait a bit. Mind sharing where you purchased from?
 
Nikki nik said:
Hop on board. I'm giving it a go tomorrow. I tried it once before. Not enough to give feedback
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Glp1judd said:
After the last review, I’m interested in PT-141. 😜
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I just sent in my order! Bought a kit of 10mg from China. I just could not bring myself to do domestic. Price wise I did NOT need to spend that but whatever here we are. Just like I did not need to add more tirz to my order either. When it comes in I would be willing to sell a vial to anyone who wants to try it.
 
ZakAP said:
I just sent in my order! Bought a kit of 10mg from China. I just could not bring myself to do domestic. Price wise I did NOT need to spend that but whatever here we are. Just like I did not need to add more tirz to my order either. When it comes in I would be willing to sell a vial to anyone who wants to try it.
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I'll message you!
 
ZakAP said:
I just sent in my order! Bought a kit of 10mg from China. I just could not bring myself to do domestic. Price wise I did NOT need to spend that but whatever here we are. Just like I did not need to add more tirz to my order either. When it comes in I would be willing to sell a vial to anyone who wants to try it.
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I will buy one from you 😉
 
New zero pep from Bucky's GB

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I wonder how many of the small guys will dip and find a new three letters. There are 67,108,863 possible even without repetition. And I think we even have a few four letter ones now too.
 
yelloeyes said:
Poor guy. I really feel bad for him.
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Never feel bad for people trying to profit off the community. They’re taking a risk (assuming they’re making the group whole), just like any business owner. Thems the breaks. If they’re not making the group whole then double fuck ‘em, definitely nothing to feel bad about.
 
chmuse said:
Hiding them? Like deleting comments on it? Not allowing test results to be posted? That's a bizarre choice for a group aiming to help newer people.
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Tested zero pep but decided not to share it because they paid for the results not the public
 
beefsteak said:
Tested zero pep but decided not to share it because they paid for the results not the public
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So like, at all? Or they just don't want it shared off their tg? I feel like a lot of the testing servers don't want results posted elsewhere.
 
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Anyone who uses their TG wanna chime in? I'm very confused, the search isn't finding me anything about withholding tests.

If they don't want to share results outside their members that's not exactly a new practice for group tests.
 
chmuse said:
🙄

Anyone who uses their TG wanna chime in? I'm very confused, the search isn't finding me anything about withholding tests.

If they don't want to share results outside their members that's not exactly a new practice for group tests.
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Yeah they organize smaller groups to test certain products and each group agrees up front on whether they'll share their results publicly or not.

I think the point here is that if you have a known batch of zero pep then it's arguably in everyone's best interest to release that in public

But no obligation to do so
 
yeah, if thats the case then i mean its nothing out of the ordinary....if you didnt buy in and help pay for the costs, why should you feel obligated to the results, good or bad?

plenty of private group testing gets done all the time in various discords/telegrams and isnt shared.......
 
clayd said:
Yeah they organize smaller groups to test certain products and each group agrees up front on whether they'll share their results publicly or not.

I think the point here is that if you have a known batch of zero pep then it's arguably in everyone's best interest to release that in public

But no obligation to do so
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Probably in everyone's best interest yeah, but if you aren't testing or buying a product you know will be tested, aren't you kind of taking that gamble? It's not like there's a barrier to getting things tested, if you want your stuff tested do it yourself, set up your own group, or join in one arranged by someone else. Not everyone is as noble as notable.

It's not like they're withholding information that could get someone sick.
 
chmuse said:
Probably in everyone's best interest yeah, but if you aren't testing or buying a product you know will be tested, aren't you kind of taking that gamble? It's not like there's a barrier to getting things tested, if you want your stuff tested do it yourself, set up your own group, or join in one arranged by someone else. Not everyone is as noble as notable.

It's not like they're withholding information that could get someone sick.
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Yeah you won't get an argument from me. The group paid for the test , they can do what they please with it
 
chmuse said:
🙄

Anyone who uses their TG wanna chime in? I'm very confused, the search isn't finding me anything about withholding tests.

If they don't want to share results outside their members that's not exactly a new practice for group tests.
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I use their telegram.

With the exception of private testing group, I have no idea what else Karen could have been talking about.
But there's no zero pep found in any of those groups.
All of them have the same basic agreement, that if results come out really bad they'll release them publicly.
Quite common in the pep community.

Sound like Karen is unaware of how things work, misunderstood and jumped to conclusions.

Unless of course she has any evidence to the contrary?
 
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