Has anyone tried another BAC Water besides Hospira?

PAPoots said:
It is hard to believe, for me at least, that we should trust them for our drugs, but not for adding a little alcohol to some water. I wouldn't think they would risk their reputation for selling 100k's of product with some bad .50 cents worth of water, alcohol and a vial.
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The only problem however I see with this is that, they are actually making solid money with selling peptides, not bac water, therefore there really is no incentive to put the time and money and effort into something so cheap to barely make a profit on it when already not many people buy it. At least with peptides its likely a much higher profit margin, and much larger amount that people are buying that would incentivize them to make quality stuff. Also, if the peptides are not quality, then in a single day their reputation can be ruined just on this forums page, meanwhile if its a bac issue and people come to this forum complaining, the only thing they will be met with is “should have used hospira”, and comments about how obvious it was to not use vendor bac.
 
EAM9112 said:
Proof? Sir (or ma’am) this is the internet.
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EAM9112 said:
Proof? Sir (or ma’am) this is the internet.
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bullshit lying GIF by The Orchard Films
 
Gr33dyOctopus said:
Not to badly!!
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Obviously I was joking around, but you aren't going to get skin sepsis from injecting with bottled water lol.

The whole peptide safety issue is played up to no end by people who have no experience with actual risk. I'm anal retentive about sterility and use multiple syringes so that my vials don't contaminate my Hospira BAC water, but I also know deep down that you can leave a vial in the fridge for three months, take the top off, dump it in your favorite coffee mug, draw it up, inject it, and 9/10 times you'll be fine.

We used to inject pills intravenously with a shared jug of purified water, filtered through the cotton from a Q tip. Sure, the risks are greatly enhanced, but it probably won't kill you. Hell, you rarely get infections when penetrated with barbed wire or thorns.

I even knew guys who would inject with water from puddles. Another guy who used apple cider vinegar to shoot crack. They're all dead now, sure, but they were alive when I spoke to them.
 
birdwhacker said:
Obviously I was joking around, but you aren't going to get skin sepsis from injecting with bottled water lol.

The whole peptide safety issue is played up to no end by people who have no experience with actual risk. I'm anal retentive about sterility and use multiple syringes so that my vials don't contaminate my Hospira BAC water, but I also know deep down that you can leave a vial in the fridge for three months, take the top off, dump it in your favorite coffee mug, draw it up, inject it, and 9/10 times you'll be fine.

We used to inject pills intravenously with a shared jug of purified water, filtered through the cotton from a Q tip. Sure, the risks are greatly enhanced, but it probably won't kill you. Hell, you rarely get infections when penetrated with barbed wire or thorns.

I even knew guys who would inject with water from puddles. Another guy who used apple cider vinegar to shoot crack. They're all dead now, sure, but they were alive when I spoke to them.
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That is actually incredibly useful information. Thank you so much. I have also known addicts that shot dope in the nastiest circumstances with the nastiest shared bent needles. Hopefully they all got clean and led good lives, though somehow I doubt it for most of them.
 
Gr33dyOctopus said:
That is actually incredibly useful information. Thank you so much. I have also known addicts that shot dope in the nastiest circumstances with the nastiest shared bent needles. Hopefully they all got clean and led good lives, though somehow I doubt it for most of them.
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Any time! We definitely all heard stories of other addicts dying from bacteria getting into the blood stream and through the heart, but it was rare. Even among the dirtiest junkies, cause of death was usually OD from either stroke from stimulants, fent hot spots, or mixing downers (it's rare that opiates alone kill someone, and almost impossible for benzos alone to cause death).

Unfortunately, most addicts of our caliber died of their addictions or became less than people. It's a very popular myth that people can choose to quit drugs. Some people can, sure, but not all of them can.

As far as peptides are concerned, I would say that the risks in order of severity are anaphylactic shock, bacterial infection, and mislabeled vials. If you're being even kind of careful (as in not buying bac water from ebay, not reusing needles) I really don't see how you could injure yourself with peptides beyond needing a round of antibiotics or a bag of saline.

We're working on getting an epi-pen or two though, because the risk of developing an allergy or having a bad reaction to something like MotsC is very real.
 
I hear Genetek is a decent stuff. Has the same PH as Hospira. 100ml for around £10 on the indian site is a real deal. If I didn't have a good few vials of Hospira, would give it a shot...
 
I just recently bought bac water from a vendor from china… and I’ve been seeing people say it’s not ok to take but does it really matter ?
 
I'm waiting on an Ocean GB. Currently using up my vendor's BAC w/no problems. Peps I use are not known to gel or be picky w/pH or water.

If I was using AOD or Tesa yea I would recommend using Hos, but imo I don't think those peps worth the hassle. But that's a whole different convo. Shout out to ppl who recon half their kit that gels on them even with H water and they don't crash out.

I might get Hos when the time is right I guess but I don't feel the need to panic buy.
 
bay_area_schizo said:
I just copped a 6 piece from lambda. if I go radio silent then y'all will know it's all bad 🤣🤣
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If you go radio silent on us, I'll be thinking it's something other than the BAC you're using. I've been using Lambda for a month or so and it works just fine for everything. I haven't used it for anything finnicky like Tesa, but I suspect it will be fine for that too. I'm confident enough in it that I bought another 24 30ml bottles for a whopping $220 out the door, ~$9.17 for those of you who are interested.

My only quibble with Lambda so far is that the bottles are made of glass (which is a good thing) and are very tall and narrow with a narrow base, so they are easy to knock off your lab table and break. Lambda, if you're reading this, shorter and fatter vials, please! Other than that minor issue, from me Lambda gets a big thumbs up!
 
Camlbacker said:
If you go radio silent on us, I'll be thinking it's something other than the BAC you're using. I've been using Lambda for a month or so and it works just fine for everything. I haven't used it for anything finnicky like Tesa, but I suspect it will be fine for that too. I'm confident enough in it that I bought another 24 30ml bottles for a whopping $220 out the door, ~$9.17 for those of you who are interested.

My only quibble with Lambda so far is that the bottles are made of glass (which is a good thing) and are very tall and narrow with a narrow base, so they are easy to knock off your lab table and break. Lambda, if you're reading this, shorter and fatter vials, please! Other than that minor issue, from me Lambda gets a big thumbs up!
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shorter and fatter! that's what I'm talkn bout! have you frozen any recond material with the Lambda BAC?
 
bay_area_schizo said:
shorter and fatter! that's what I'm talkn bout! have you frozen any recond material with the Lambda BAC?
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No, I haven't, but I don't see any reason why it would be problematic. I ordered some 100mg Tirz from a group buy recently and will probably freeze some in the fall (I will use Reta through the summer) since I don't see myself using more than maybe 5mg a week of it.
 
wildweasel said:
for the longest time i was buying generic 10ml BAC and never had any issue with them, the only reason i switched to hospira is because i can find vendors selling 30ml for reasonable prices, not becasue i had any negative experiences with a generic or off brand
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same - i bought from Amazon about a 3 weeks ago (though the supplier was incredibly detailed in making sure to not use the word Bacteriostatic or Reconstitute anywhere - and i haven't had any issues yet - will update if it does
 
was looking at this just earlier then went to scan all my tg group buys, as i do every evening. had one just pop up with 10ml kits of nexus aminos bac for $27. nexus tested and a second group test when they get it. ive heard the nexus bac has been pretty good from other group buys so i got several kits
 
For anyone that is looking for BULK BAC, Have you ever considered mixing your own?

I ask this, because its not an unreasonable thing to do when you consider what we are all actually doing anyway.

I utilize a still air box, i do multiple rounds of cleaning with 70% IPA, and follow just about every sterility precaution possible. Using B Braun Sterile Water for Injection, I add 27 units from a U-100 into a 30ml vial, and 29.73ml of SWFI. Excluding needle costs, 8 30ml vials costs around $20. The longest I have had a vial is around 6 months. I havent had any issues with cloudiness, floaters, or any craziness like that. I do however reconstitute through a .22 PES 4mm filter as an extra precaution.

IV bags are cheap, and very easy to get your hands on. Also, Benzyl Alcohol can be had for around $20 or less, and youll probably never run out when your using 0.27ml per vial. Ive done this with PBS and NaCl as well.
 
For my next run I might try making my own. Hospira bac water just seems too expensive for what it is, but I guess we all learn through experience. If I ever get an infection from any other type of water then my opinion may change.

I bought the 10x3ml vials from the supplier for $10 and will just use them one time each. My logic is that there’s a much smaller chance of contamination if it’s just one and done per vial. I’ll report back if I have any issues with that.

I did watch a recent video of Janoshik talking about how you can just use only sterile water and they haven’t seen any bacterial growth for months or even years. Most important thing is making sure the peptide and needle is sterile. https://suspicious-link-removed.com/@krуsia0430/note/c-265361318
 
For anyone interested in getting Lambda water, their payment system is back online. Free shipping over $60, and six 30ml bottles is $54.99, so if you want the free shipping, you have to buy a bit more than six. I stocked up myself so I have my bases covered until this BAC water insanity ends, or well into the future if it never ends.
 
Anyone tried these I have 3 bottles and yet to use Muagoua Reconstitution Solution... on amazon
 
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