Hello from Florida! - Newbie first order is in hand (Nervous/Skeptical)

[Henk906]

Hey everyone,

So I joined this forum about two weeks ago. After all of my "poking" around, I felt pretty confident with Nexa. I bought the Tirz - 15 mg 10 vial kit. I joined their telegram as well. Seems like the "safest" most "reliable" option for a newbie going grey.

I bought it just in case I got screwed over with my last compounded order. Ive been using Hallandale via LSH. They put a stop to that, so I bought 80 mgs from Strive pharmacy 10 days ago. I got a text today they they are "out of stock". It was not cheap so im just going to get a refund.

I now have to use my Nexa order and im really nervous. Main reason is that my brother who works in the grey market for something else told me that you should never take anything that is not GMP certified. He said most likely all of the big grey market companies that sell peptides have those third party testing companies in their pockets and not to trust it. He said it has to be GMP certified or stay away. He has a good friend who is a pharmacist that I talked to and he agreed with him and also warned me that its common for grey products to be contaminated with lead.

I would love to hear opinions on this. TY!!!!!!

 

[brentm]

Hey everyone,

So I joined this forum about two weeks ago. After all of my "poking" around, I felt pretty confident with Nexa. I bought the Tirz - 15 mg 10 vial kit. I joined their telegram as well. Seems like the "safest" most "reliable" option for a newbie going grey.

I bought it just in case I got screwed over with my last compounded order. Ive been using Hallandale via LSH. They put a stop to that, so I bought 80 mgs from Strive pharmacy 10 days ago. I got a text today they they are "out of stock". It was not cheap so im just going to get a refund.

I now have to use my Nexa order and im really nervous. Main reason is that my brother who works in the grey market for something else told me that you should never take anything that is not GMP certified. He said most likely all of the big grey market companies that sell peptides have those third party testing companies in their pockets and not to trust it. He said it has to be GMP certified or stay away. He has a good friend who is a pharmacist that I talked to and he agreed with him and also warned me that its common for grey products to be contaminated with lead.

I would love to hear opinions on this. TY!!!!!!

I'm not sure you're going to get a bunch of people saying "hell yeah, inject yourself with chinese counterfeit GLP1 products".

So I offer you no reassurance.

Janoshik can test a vial from your kit for lead, if you are worried about that contaminant. I'm not sure where in the process our products would encounter lead. Lead is everywhere though. That glass of water you're drinking? Yeah, there's lead in it.

I think lead contamination is probably fear mongering. I just don't see where in the process they'd use lead-based products.

 

[nonyabizznez]

I would love to hear opinions on this. TY!!!!!!

My last order with LSH was $540 for 60mg Tirz (July before they dropped prices). I was happy with LSH and Hallandale. They were a big help during the shortage and were still less money than my copays for Mounjaro.

The same quantity for me now is $30 gray. I have little doubt the Tirz in my Hallandale is the same Tirz in my gray is the same Tirz in script Mounjaro. How do I know? Daily glucose checks having taken all of the above. Lead? "GMP Certification"? Haven't seen those concerns.

Tirz is Tirz

 

[AndyPanda]

Hey everyone,

So I joined this forum about two weeks ago. After all of my "poking" around, I felt pretty confident with Nexa. I bought the Tirz - 15 mg 10 vial kit. I joined their telegram as well. Seems like the "safest" most "reliable" option for a newbie going grey.

I bought it just in case I got screwed over with my last compounded order. Ive been using Hallandale via LSH. They put a stop to that, so I bought 80 mgs from Strive pharmacy 10 days ago. I got a text today they they are "out of stock". It was not cheap so im just going to get a refund.

I now have to use my Nexa order and im really nervous. Main reason is that my brother who works in the grey market for something else told me that you should never take anything that is not GMP certified. He said most likely all of the big grey market companies that sell peptides have those third party testing companies in their pockets and not to trust it. He said it has to be GMP certified or stay away. He has a good friend who is a pharmacist that I talked to and he agreed with him and also warned me that its common for grey products to be contaminated with lead.

I would love to hear opinions on this. TY!!!!!!

I’ve been injecting Nexaph for a few months. Other than my shitty attitude, I’m fine.

 

[brentm]

Lead? "GMP Certification"? Haven't seen those concerns.

Tirz is Tirz

Janoshik Analytical

The heavy metal testing includes lead. It's actually not very expensive and is only $60 dollars for the test. So for under a $100 bucks you could cross Pb off the list of "not going to kill me" constituents.

I doubt there's lead in these to be honest. And I'm sure someone out there in GLP1 chinese market has already tested another vendor's product.

 

[Mykrodot]

I just checked their chat, it looks like the last Tirz 15 has just been sent to Janoshik for third part testing yesterday. If you are nervous don't use it until then test results are back in. Are yours red caps with purple crimps? Those are the ones I am referring to.
Editedto add, welcome to the forum!

 

[TooBigtoFail]

Another conspiracy theory. Cinnamon, spices, imported food/candy, snacks, imported fruits, and the list goes on of heavy metal laced products. Lead paint in pre 1978 homes. Do you filter your tap water down to .5micron? Do you only buy organic? Do you smoke? Did you take a Covid vaccine? I would implement those safeguard first before worrying about lead. In my young days, I had lead based tooth filling, lead solder in water pipes, everything had lead. More of a concern if you are a growing child. Folks who try to put fear into you, are all about trying to dominate you, imo. To elevate themselves and protect their Eli Lilly sponsored job, not you. Those same folks that allowed mercury in vaccines.... Do risk base analysis: Cancer will probably kill you first, or a coronary event. There are may glp1 forums with thousands of users (Telegram, discord, pepchat, etc). Search if any found lead in their glp1. You can send a vial to be tested. Or buy a DIY kit.

 

[Henk906]

I really appreciate everyone’s insight. This platform is helping a lot of people. First shot of grey going down next week!

 

[Yankeegurl_LQJ]

Like I said on the another post..I was a heroin addict for yrs. We damn sure didn't test anything and I'm still here and in one piece. I kinda feel like everyone takes a chance buying supplements, skincare, food etc. from places like Amazon, Ebay and so many other questionable online sites. Why does everyone act super paranoid with peptides? Because most are injected and there has always been a stereotype that goes along with that? I don't believe vendors are trying to kill off their money source. If u get bunk stuff it's most likely filler or bs that's not going to kill you anyway. This is just my opinion and I respect that a lot of people feel a different type of way.

 

[Captconundrum]

Think it is also worth noting these GLP1s are intrinsically not dangerous substances. Perhaps some of the edge peptides are risky, and bodybuilding stuff has been abused, but the mainstream GLP1s we all deal with are pretty reliable, not gonna put you in a coma or anything, maybe extra burping or no effect. Of course it's possible they get contaminated seriously, but the underlying meds are pretty benign and for me I take a lot of comfort in that. Also the point about vendors not wanting to hurt anyone, these forums are a godsend for that because something really bad happening would get highlighted incredibly fast I imagine. All in all, a benign peptide from the place where they are all made anyway (Eli Lilly = Wuhan) is a pretty safe bet IMO.

 

[Yankeegurl_LQJ]

In the Janoshik Q&A he even said that most of the time the bunk stuff is either the wrong peptide or the right peptide but severely underdosed. He also explains that sterility isn't really an issue because most microbes can't survive the lyophilization process or many months being lyophilized.

 

[hexagonal]

If you want to absolutely maximize safety, the name brand stuff is your best option. There just aren't nearly as many safety precautions and controls for these options. Even compounding carries risks vs. the name brand.

We just aren't seeing tests showing heavy metal contamination in these products.

But we also can't decide your risk tolerance for you.

 

[feuerwehr7]

My last order with LSH was $540 for 60mg Tirz (July before they dropped prices). I was happy with LSH and Hallandale. They were a big help during the shortage and were still less money than my copays for Mounjaro.

The same quantity for me now is $30 gray. I have little doubt the Tirz in my Hallandale is the same Tirz in my gray is the same Tirz in script Mounjaro. How do I know? Daily glucose checks having taken all of the above. Lead? "GMP Certification"? Haven't seen those concerns.

Tirz is Tirz

Sorry but I am new too. What does „grey“ in respect to peptides mean?

 

[nonyabizznez]

Sorry but I am new too. What does „grey“ in respect to peptides mean?

China vendor.

Thread 'Someone told you to "go grey" and now you're here.'

Dec 25, 2024

This is your quick run down. It's not perfect but it also shouldn't get you killed. Hopefully. I take no responsibility for your injecting things unintended for human use. Do this at your own risk. I just wanted to make something I can link people to now that compounding is leaving and there's going to be a ton of people with basic questions. I'm stupid, you probably shouldn't listen to me at all, but hey, here you are, you're clearly a risk taker. We like to argue here, so I'm fully expecting someone to reply with every little thing I've gotten wrong within ten minutes of hitting post...

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[raw_oyster_eater]

shut-up and inject the shit.

 

[Yankeegurl_LQJ]

If you want to absolutely maximize safety, the name brand stuff is your best option. There just aren't nearly as many safety precautions and controls for these options. Even compounding carries risks vs. the name brand.

We just aren't seeing tests showing heavy metal contamination in these products.

But we also can't decide your risk tolerance for you.

Here is what Janoshik said about testing for heavy metals and why it's not really necessary.