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Hello everyone, joined this forum less than a week ago, I have been digging into many threads and the info I’m learning is pure gold.

My only exp with peptides has been running 2 cycles of GHK-Cu from SSA, and after reading u guys I am now considering buying gluta and whatever the gold standard for muscle n weight loss is lol, so thanks for that. Still have some questions:

1) Are vendors with US warehouses preferred only because of shipping convenience? avoid peptide degradation or another special reason?

2) Even if the vendor is in good standing within the peptide community, do you still run a group testing after buying a kit? How often does turn out a long term vendor in this business starts selling baby powder out of nowhere?

My final question is probably the most rehashed thing asked in this server but understand that the recommended vendor thread has 1k replies and the first page mentioning multiple vendors either been nuked or are vetted(?)

So which vendor would u recommend. I want it cheap, and high quality

Thank u everyone, appreciate any further feedback u might provide
 
Welcome. You’ll probably get a few slow your roll comments. What is very true is “cheap, high quality, and fast- you can only have two.” Often you’ll get none! Not many will recommend a vendor overtly, but read around for a while and you’ll get the hints as to where others are buying routinely, and sometimes why.
 
Welcome.

US warehouse does make it more convenient. Obviously faster but also basically eliminates any chance of order being seized by customs.

Reputable vendors shouldn't ever send out baby powder. Biggest problems besides being under dosed or over dosed is them going dark (taking money and running).

Best vendor decision will be made by you after researching the vendor section. Check what prices, payment options, selection, etc fits your needs best. Narrow it down to your top couple then use the search function to read everything about them to make final decision.

I am not recommending or sponsored by any vendor. The ones I have used are : JEEP and Nexaph successfully. I'm doing a test run with ERP at the moment.

TLDR: you smart enough to make it here. Do a little more research and make up your own mind.
 
1) I only buy from China because I'm cheap (see username). Well, except for one time, when my preferred vendor vanished (check out the thread "SSA Delay") and I panic-bought some tirz for almost twice what I normally pay. As I understand, the main draw to buying from US sellers is faster shipping with no customs concerns. Some say US vendors are more trustworthy and test more, but I'm not so sure that's true.

2)Yes, people still test from trusted vendors (not everyone, though). I've only been around for a few months, but I've never heard of a trusted vendor, or any vendor, intentionally selling bad product. (Someone, please give me the gossip if that has happened!) Wrong substance DOES happen. Most recently, Reta and Tirz were mixed up, or rather, mixed together, in what was supposed to be straight Reta. Ironically, that was done by the seller, MIX. But, they are new to the market and quickly took steps to rectify their mistake. Some people think their being new makes it worse, but I'd say it's a normal for a new business to have kinks to work out. I'd be more concerned if it's a vendor who's been around for a while.

3) Use the search function and read about JEEP, OU, Uther, Nexaph, the vendors in the Recommended Vendor section, and any other names you come across. It takes a while, but only you can decide which vender is right for you, and you will learn a lot along the way.
 
I don't answer source-begging so good luck with all that, but as far as the "why pick a US warehouse" question; everybody acts like it's a given that peptides take a month to get to you when you buy from China, and that patience is required. For me, I only use vendors with US warehouses as an overall risk-mitigation. I want to keep the time between "I give em the money" and "I have my product" as low as possible.

If vendors didn't suddenly exit-strategy, get raided, or otherwise vanish into thin air on the regular, I'd think it was no big deal to pay money and wait a month; maybe even two months if customs seizes my order and they have to reship. That would be no big deal to me if we were dealing with reliable companies who will surely still be around in two months from now. But since we're not, I'm happier knowing that the time between when the money leaves my wallet and the time I'm packing my stuff into the freezer will likely be less than a week. That's a way smaller window of time for the situation with that particular vendor to change.
 
Customs seizure is a real worry. I asked a similar question in another forum, and one person mentioned they lost their Global Entry because of it. Is the risk worth the reward, that's for you to decide.
For some people risks are not at all worth it, I have decided to stick to only US vendors
 
Hello everyone, joined this forum less than a week ago, I have been digging into many threads and the info I’m learning is pure gold.

My only exp with peptides has been running 2 cycles of GHK-Cu from SSA, and after reading u guys I am now considering buying gluta and whatever the gold standard for muscle n weight loss is lol, so thanks for that. Still have some questions:

1) Are vendors with US warehouses preferred only because of shipping convenience? avoid peptide degradation or another special reason?

2) Even if the vendor is in good standing within the peptide community, do you still run a group testing after buying a kit? How often does turn out a long term vendor in this business starts selling baby powder out of nowhere?

My final question is probably the most rehashed thing asked in this server but understand that the recommended vendor thread has 1k replies and the first page mentioning multiple vendors either been nuked or are vetted(?)

So which vendor would u recommend. I want it cheap, and high quality

Thank u everyone, appreciate any further feedback u might provide
1. Yes, a US based warehouse is best for shipping. While it does make things faster to arrive ... the more important aspect is that your order isn't subject to going through customs.

2. Testing seems to be done all over on everything, you just have to track down where the groups happens to be and go from there.

3. Can't help you on that one. Buying the cheapest isn't my highest priority.
 
US warehouse only works if you're in the US. Lots of us around the globe have fewer warehouse options to choose from. So not everyone does choose them.

I run a group test server. I test everything because I'm injecting it into my body so why wouldn't I want to be sure it is what I think it is, at the dose I think it is, and free of contaminants? It's a safety measure I think is worth it.

Spend even 5 minutes looking through recommended vendors and you'll see where the buzz is right now. But remember, even the best vendors of the moment can screw you over if they pull an exit scam. It happens.
 
I haven’t placed my first grey order yet but I’m 100% sticking with vendors with US warehouses. I’m not concerned with spending the least amount of money (although it can be tempting). I’m more concerned with the quality of the product and not taking the risk with customs. I also plan to test every batch I get.
 
1) Are vendors with US warehouses preferred only because of shipping convenience? avoid peptide degradation or another special reason?
US vendors are both a matter of convenience and a risk mitigation tactic. Your peps generally ship fast and you don't run the risk of having customs seize your package.
2) Even if the vendor is in good standing within the peptide community, do you still run a group testing after buying a kit? How often does turn out a long term vendor in this business starts selling baby powder out of nowhere?
Everyone's risk tolerance and procedures are different. I've never paid for a test. I've either bought from vendors that are getting tested enough that I feel confident in pinning their peps without a test, or bought from vendors that pay for customers to randomly send in vials for third party testing.
So which vendor would u recommend. I want it cheap, and high quality
None. All vendors become a let down at some point. You really need to come to your own conclusion as to who you are going to gamble on. These aren't reputable vendors, at best they are people running legally questionable business ventures that operate in the shadows, and at worst they are parts of multinational organized crime ventures also involved in narcotics, and possibly other things like human trafficking and murder.
 
Thank you so much for all your answers, i am inclining to jeep since is the hottest as of now I guess, too bad they dont got gluta in their listc
US warehouse only works if you're in the US. Lots of us around the globe have fewer warehouse options to choose from. So not everyone does choose them.

I run a group test server. I test everything because I'm injecting it into my body so why wouldn't I want to be sure it is what I think it is, at the dose I think it is, and free of contaminants? It's a safety measure I think is worth it.

Spend even 5 minutes looking through recommended vendors and you'll see where the buzz is right now. But remember, even the best vendors of the moment can screw you over if they pull an exit scam. It happens.
could i get an update for that server?
 
1) I only buy from China because I'm cheap (see username). Well, except for one time, when my preferred vendor vanished (check out the thread "SSA Delay") and I panic-bought some tirz for almost twice what I normally pay. As I understand, the main draw to buying from US sellers is faster shipping with no customs concerns. Some say US vendors are more trustworthy and test more, but I'm not so sure that's true.

2)Yes, people still test from trusted vendors (not everyone, though). I've only been around for a few months, but I've never heard of a trusted vendor, or any vendor, intentionally selling bad product. (Someone, please give me the gossip if that has happened!) Wrong substance DOES happen. Most recently, Reta and Tirz were mixed up, or rather, mixed together, in what was supposed to be straight Reta. Ironically, that was done by the seller, MIX. But, they are new to the market and quickly took steps to rectify their mistake. Some people think their being new makes it worse, but I'd say it's a normal for a new business to have kinks to work out. I'd be more concerned if it's a vendor who's been around for a while.

3) Use the search function and read about JEEP, OU, Uther, Nexaph, the vendors in the Recommended Vendor section, and any other names you come across. It takes a while, but only you can decide which vender is right for you, and you will learn a lot along the way.
Trivial clarification: the MIX mix-up was a batch of Tirz 60 contaminated with Reta. I ran out and pinned this batch before our Jano group test came back. I had never tried Reta before and to say it was a strong FEELZ is an understatement. Jano results about a week later showed 52 mg tirz and 14 mg reta. MIX has been outstanding about replacing all orders (including comp vials) and is paying for testing of replacement batch.
 
Trivial clarification: the MIX mix-up was a batch of Tirz 60 contaminated with Reta. I ran out and pinned this batch before our Jano group test came back. I had never tried Reta before and to say it was a strong FEELZ is an understatement. Jano results about a week later showed 52 mg tirz and 14 mg reta. MIX has been outstanding about replacing all orders (including comp vials) and is paying for testing of replacement batch.
Are you keeping/using the mixed up batch?
 
Trivial clarification: the MIX mix-up was a batch of Tirz 60 contaminated with Reta. I ran out and pinned this batch before our Jano group test came back. I had never tried Reta before and to say it was a strong FEELZ is an understatement. Jano results about a week later showed 52 mg tirz and 14 mg reta. MIX has been outstanding about replacing all orders (including comp vials) and is paying for testing of replacement batch.
Thanks for clarifying 👍
 
Unrelated to the thread, but every time I see your profile photo it reminds me of the GEICO caveman commercials and I laugh what’s left of my ass off. So, thanks for that.
No problem. If the photo makes you laugh, I encourage you to watch the British "Ghosts". Way better than the American version.
 
Hello everyone, joined this forum less than a week ago, I have been digging into many threads and the info I’m learning is pure gold.

My only exp with peptides has been running 2 cycles of GHK-Cu from SSA, and after reading u guys I am now considering buying gluta and whatever the gold standard for muscle n weight loss is lol, so thanks for that. Still have some questions:

1) Are vendors with US warehouses preferred only because of shipping convenience? avoid peptide degradation or another special reason?

2) Even if the vendor is in good standing within the peptide community, do you still run a group testing after buying a kit? How often does turn out a long term vendor in this business starts selling baby powder out of nowhere?

My final question is probably the most rehashed thing asked in this server but understand that the recommended vendor thread has 1k replies and the first page mentioning multiple vendors either been nuked or are vetted(?)

So which vendor would u recommend. I want it cheap, and high quality

Thank u everyone, appreciate any further feedback u might provide
There is a certain lever of discretion and gatekeeping that the decorum here requires as it pertains to vendor recommendations. If you shill here, you might get warned but a ban is also possible and this site is so valuable that it’s not worth it.

I am aware of one Chinese vendor that has a US warehouse and a proven track record. They have changed their name several times but they always find a way back and they make good if something isn’t up to par. Search for stinging Tirz and you can find them. They are not a dues paying Vendor but have been good to a lot of people. Their prices are a little bit higher than getting if from Mainland China but you don’t have to worry about customs and you get it relatively fast for this market.

I’m a Glutathione fan boy for skin, liver health, recovery and energy. I would say the “gold standard” peptide for muscle is HGH and it works great for body composition in unison with any GLP. Reta is probably best for preserving muscle but can raise your heart rate so be careful. Re: HGH, start at 1-2iu and titrate up to 3-4iu if you don’t notice anything after a month or two. It is a little harder to find but it’s definitely out there. You can find a lot of good information over at MESORX, but beware… there is a lot of bravado over there but some of those guys are extremely talented and intelligent. It’s just a no nonsense kind of direct communication so go in with thick skin and an open mind.
 
There is a certain lever of discretion and gatekeeping that the decorum here requires as it pertains to vendor recommendations. If you shill here, you might get warned but a ban is also possible and this site is so valuable that it’s not worth it.

I am aware of one Chinese vendor that has a US warehouse and a proven track record. They have changed their name several times but they always find a way back and they make good if something isn’t up to par. Search for stinging Tirz and you can find them. They are not a dues paying Vendor but have been good to a lot of people. Their prices are a little bit higher than getting if from Mainland China but you don’t have to worry about customs and you get it relatively fast for this market.

I’m a Glutathione fan boy for skin, liver health, recovery and energy. I would say the “gold standard” peptide for muscle is HGH and it works great for body composition in unison with any GLP. Reta is probably best for preserving muscle but can raise your heart rate so be careful. Re: HGH, start at 1-2iu and titrate up to 3-4iu if you don’t notice anything after a month or two. It is a little harder to find but it’s definitely out there. You can find a lot of good information over at MESORX, but beware… there is a lot of bravado over there but some of those guys are extremely talented and intelligent. It’s just a no nonsense kind of direct communication so go in with thick skin and an open mind.
Your experience on Gluta has inspired me to start on it . Saw your past comments about how it should be reconstituted with absorbic acid to get the most off it. I’m currently on adderall so most I can do is take vitamin c tablets, otherwise it messes with my meds

Do you think gluta is still worth if reconstituted with any other substance?
 
Thank you so much for all your answers, i am inclining to jeep since is the hottest as of now I guess, too bad they dont got gluta in their listc

could i get an update for that server?
Not sure if you can receive DMs here on a new account so you could first join JEEP's discord channel from their post in Vendors section on the Home page of this forum (scroll down).

Then give us a holler in the channel and one of us will add you to the testing server.
 

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