How bad can gray be?

[Wacholindo]

Hi,

First, I know you can’t never say “this is safe” we never know, mistakes can happen and bad batches often makes vendors lose so much they decide to trow offers to sell them

But, how much can this happend? How much has this happend in the past? Like 1 of 20 batches are “bad”
And when we say bad, like… how bad?
I dont really care mg or “purity”, im saving so much money so a little more mg or a little less doesnt affect me, I’ll dose bellow max reccomendation to not get an overdose and inject 2 times a week so if I notice something wrong I know I can adjust my next dose
but not something that will KILL ME

But… all the others things? Has it happend to a batch to be life treateaning? Why? There’s a page that talks about it but they don’t answer the real questions

Like yeah, I dont care about nausea, pain and stuff

I only care about literally not dying or permanent issues that makes me handicaped

 

[ZippityDooDah]

While not likely produced in the same labs because the technologies used are completely different for peptide synthesis, many of the the same companies and maybe located the same buildings or industrial complexes are at the top of the food chain, the first thing that comes to mind is fentanyl. Then there are the simpler things like any of the chemicals they use to clean the magic peptide-making machines in-between batches.

And as peptides continue to explode in popularity, just like any other drug as competition continues getting stiffer corners will start being cut so that they can squeeze every last buck out of out of everyone along the way from the child slave labor making and packaging the stuff to the suburban grandma just trying to lose a few pounds before the next big quilting bazaar. Until grandma shoots up with some fentanyl or maybe a little ammonia or benzene; but at lest she'll fit and look good in that funeral dress.

 

[Wacholindo]

While not likely produced in the same labs because the technologies used are completely different for peptide synthesis, many of the the same companies and maybe located the same buildings or industrial complexes are at the top of the food chain, the first thing that comes to mind is fentanyl. Then there are the simpler things like any of the chemicals they use to clean the magic peptide-making machines in-between batches.

And as peptides continue to explode in popularity, just like any other drug as competition continues getting stiffer corners will start being cut so that they can squeeze every last buck out of out of everyone along the way from the child slave labor making and packaging the stuff to the suburban grandma just trying to lose a few pounds before the next big quilting bazaar. Until grandma shoots up with some fentanyl or maybe a little ammonia or benzene; but at lest she'll fit and look good in that funeral dress.

Yeah, surelly first there will be a “cheap but trash” products, getting a lot of costumers and then “oops” they fuck up and someone dies

Ill stick then to “not so cheap, but not too expensive” vendors, Ill ignore “promos” and “sales” and try to stick to vendors that “seem” to prioritize quality but yeah…

Ill just buy some rat labs and test the peps before anything else, dont want my mum to die thanks

If someone has studies of this type of experiments on rats to regulate the dose I would be thankfull 🙂

 

[ZippityDooDah]

Yeah, surelly first there will be a “cheap but trash” products, getting a lot of costumers and then “oops” they fuck up and someone dies

Ill stick then to “not so cheap, but not too expensive” vendors, Ill ignore “promos” and “sales” and try to stick to vendors that “seem” to prioritize quality but yeah…

Ill just buy some rat labs and test the peps before anything else, dont want my mum to die thanks

If someone has studies of this type of experiments on rats to regulate the dose I would be thankfull 🙂

Ultimately, sadly, eventually something is going to go horribly wrong and people are going to get seriously sick, injured, or possibly worse and that knowledge scares the hell out of me.

That's one of the few situations where buying from a domestic vendor has a major potential "benefit": someone to go after when something does go bad.

 

[hexagonal]

Hi,

First, I know you can’t never say “this is safe” we never know, mistakes can happen and bad batches often makes vendors lose so much they decide to trow offers to sell them

But, how much can this happend? How much has this happend in the past? Like 1 of 20 batches are “bad”
And when we say bad, like… how bad?
I dont really care mg or “purity”, im saving so much money so a little more mg or a little less doesnt affect me, I’ll dose bellow max reccomendation to not get an overdose and inject 2 times a week so if I notice something wrong I know I can adjust my next dose
but not something that will KILL ME

But… all the others things? Has it happend to a batch to be life treateaning? Why? There’s a page that talks about it but they don’t answer the real questions

Like yeah, I dont care about nausea, pain and stuff

I only care about literally not dying or permanent issues that makes me handicaped

You're injecting substances into your body. There are lots of substances you can inject into your body that could be fatal that would fit in the same volume as the peptides in the vials.

Is there any reason any of them would be anywhere near the manufacturing process for peptides? Not for a lot of them. But I don't have any sort of exhaustive research or knowledge at hand, so it's entirely possible that there are a hell of a lot that I don't know about.

It's not something I think is likely enough to put in on my list, but it is a possibility and that prevents me from recommending buying from Chinese drug dealers to anyone that I don't believe can fully understand the potential risk there and come to their own decision.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

Yeah, surelly first there will be a “cheap but trash” products, getting a lot of costumers and then “oops” they fuck up and someone dies

Ill stick then to “not so cheap, but not too expensive” vendors, Ill ignore “promos” and “sales” and try to stick to vendors that “seem” to prioritize quality but yeah…

Ill just buy some rat labs and test the peps before anything else, dont want my mum to die thanks

If someone has studies of this type of experiments on rats to regulate the dose I would be thankfull 🙂

I test everything on my siamese cat first....