How many people keep that they are on GLP-1's from their medical professional?

[LazysodLondon]

I am all for telling our medical professional everything as I think its disingenuous to expect them to be able to do their job with some major facts missing (even if you do think you know better than them). But I am currently applying for equity on my flat and have to give access to my medical records to the lenders, the less information showing I'm potentially sickly, taking un-prescribed drugs or at least a hypochondriac on that the better.

But then how in all good faith can I ask someone to help me when I haven't told them something that could be very relevant but I dont realise it? (The post about GLP-1's affecting PET-CT imaging scans being a case in point.)
So if you are taking anything, do you tell all, especially if it may affect insurance or other important life points in the future?

Obviously if taking illegal drugs (you know, the good stuff) then it can make sense not to shout too loud but what about lesser evils?

 

[cheaperseeker]

My doctor knows I'm on tirz, but lenders here in the US have no right to access people's medical records. If they did, I probably wouldn't want that information in there either.

 

[byefatlicia]

I told my Dr. I was taking it but skirted the question of where I get it.

 

[AndyPanda]

My doctor knows I'm on tirz, but lenders here in the US have no right to access people's medical records. If they did, I probably wouldn't want that information in there either.

I was today years old when I learned lender’s checking your medical records anywhere was even a thing. Holy cow that is insane!

 

[Airborne Daddy]

I was today years old when I learned lender’s checking your medical records anywhere was even a thing. Holy cow that is insane!

Wtf is up with that? So they can charge an extra 8% for insurance if you die that they'll dispute anyway.....

 

[AndyPanda]

Wtf is up with that? So they can charge an extra 8% for insurance if you die that they'll dispute anyway.....

No idea brother. I just learned about it from the post I replied to. Nothing is sacred anymore.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

No idea brother. I just about it from the post I replied to. Nothing is sacred anymore.

Rule number 1 of Special Forces. Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations. We fucked up when we went paper to computers. That's why everyone wants your dna.... sorry can't have the 5 year car loan or mortgage... ur genetics say ur predisposed to heart attacks and stroke. Wait my manager said we can do it for another 149.99 a month hazard insurance and another 2% interest.

 

[vewdew34]

What for a loan they need to look at your medical records? Banks in England are tough to part with money, damn you lucky they don't want to look up your arse.

 

[data259]

I told my doctor that I was taking tirz from an alternate source. He was skeptical, and said his biggest concern was not so much about heavy metals or toxic contamination, but that I might just be getting saline or some other inert substance in powdered form. Then he asked how much I was paying. When I told him, he was surprised in an impressed sort of way. He has worked with compounding pharmacies and is more open to the idea of sourcing medication from unofficial means, so I wasn't too worried about telling him. I feel like it's only fair to tell him about everything I'm taking if I want good comprehensive medical advice.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

What for a loan they need to look at your medical records? Banks in England are tough to part with money, damn you lucky they don't want to look up your arse.

You'd think theyd welcome that. Pay 8 years and stroke out. Then they take ur shit and sell it for more ....

 

[AndyPanda]

Rule number 1 of Special Forces. Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations. We fucked up when we went paper to computers. That's why everyone wants your dna.... sorry can't have the 5 year car loan or mortgage... ur genetics say ur predisposed to heart attacks and stroke. Wait my manager said we can do it for another 149.99 a month hazard insurance and another 2% interest.

All of us Veterans are in CODIS. lol If we only knew at 17 years old what we know now.

 

[AndyPanda]

What for a loan they need to look at your medical records? Banks in England are tough to part with money, damn you lucky they don't want to look up your arse.

I can’t even wrap my head around this. In the US they let people ruin their credit the old fashioned way.

 

[keangkong]

I am all for telling our medical professional everything as I think its disingenuous to expect them to be able to do their job with some major facts missing (even if you do think you know better than them). But I am currently applying for equity on my flat and have to give access to my medical records to the lenders, the less information showing I'm potentially sickly, taking un-prescribed drugs or at least a hypochondriac on that the better.

But then how in all good faith can I ask someone to help me when I haven't told them something that could be very relevant but I dont realise it? (The post about GLP-1's affecting PET-CT imaging scans being a case in point.)
So if you are taking anything, do you tell all, especially if it may affect insurance or other important life points in the future?

Obviously if taking illegal drugs (you know, the good stuff) then it can make sense not to shout too loud but what about lesser evils?

I don't think lenders can get that information in the US; I suspect it's illegal for them to even ask.
I've hard folks say that it will be hard to get insurance if they admit to using grey drugs. I question that. After Obamacare, it's quite difficult in America to deny someone health insurance due to their medical history. (I'm not bragging to a Brit about American healthcare. There are tons of problems with it.)

I kept my retatrutide usage secret from the endocrinologist who originally prescribed my tirzepatide. He's also my thyroid cancer doctor. However, after I had liver problems severe enough to warrant a referral to the hepatologist and my liver enzymes stayed elevated, I told the hepatologist. He told me that retatrutide probably wasn't causing the problem but he needed me stop right now. I also stopped taking my statin, the likely real cause of the liver problem. I was glad that he told me to continue taking the tirzepatide. People taking stuff they are not supposed to is quite common. I've read published case reports trying to research my liver issue. I probably should have told my endocrinologist beforehand that I had started retatrutide. However, I knew he'd disapprove. And I do like the guy.

 

[keangkong]

I can’t even wrap my head around this. In the US they let people ruin their credit the old fashioned way.

I think that's just the way it is with foreign countries. They have some awful things (granted this is the UK and we're not talking truly awful) and they have some great things that make us critical of our own country. There is usually plenty of good and plenty of bad.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

My doctor knows I'm on tirz, but lenders here in the US have no right to access people's medical records. If they did, I probably wouldn't want that information in there either.

Nope. You were blessed with good genetics and your BP, a1c, glucose, hdl, ldl, triglycerides and entire complete metabolic panel are on point. For a lender.....
My liver specialist gave me a script and said there's some amazing glp1s out there. Insurance said not a chance. I told her I'm with an internet compounder and she didn't push.... no need to tell her my dealer is chinese with a cigar and eye patch, drinks Jim beam and calls me dear.

 

[miss-sanne]

I am a medical professionel, and I would never, like NEVER EVER tell my coworkers or my doctor that I am on grey reta and cagri, because of my profession.
But I do have a Mounjaro prescription on my file, I'll keep it there, so they can see if needed.

But this is Denmark, nobody cares about my medical history when I buy a house, and we don't have medical insurance.
I understand you would keep it out, I would too, if I was you.
If the worst happens and you have to get a PET-CT, you can say you just started on it, if you feel better about it.

 

[LazysodLondon]

Wtf is up with that? So they can charge an extra 8% for insurance if you die that they'll dispute anyway.....

Sorry I should have clarified that, I'm applying for an enhanced lifetime mortgages (equity) and they ask a few questions and if needed ask your permission to ask for confirmation from your doctor (as I understand it).
From asking my financial adviser this is only likely if they think you're lying lots (trying to defraud) or if saying you have a condition that may shorten your life so they can lend you more as they get it back sooner (On equity you dont pay a penny back until after your death, and then who cares!).
its not something they can do without your express permission but obviously if you refused you'd need a good reason why!

 

[lessthanhalf]

My Dr asked where i was getting it from. He prescribed tirz for me, but I needed a much higher dose than I had planned for , so it was too expensive. I don't think it was because he disapproved, more just curious or he has lots of other patients who cannot afford glp's. He has always been fit and skinny so I don't think it was for personal reasons. I just suggested looking at this forum, and reading a lot of it, as it was how I found out where they could be bought and some idea of how to do it semi safely.

 

[miss-sanne]

My Dr asked where i was getting it from. He prescribed tirz for me, but I needed a much higher dose than I had planned for , so it was too expensive. I don't think it was because he disapproved, more just curious or he has lots of other patients who cannot afford glp's. He has always been fit and skinny so I don't think it was for personal reasons. I just suggested looking at this forum, and reading a lot of it, as it was how I found out where they could be bought and some idea of how to do it semi safely.

Oh you never know. Healthy, skinny people microdose glp-1's because they are such health-promoting benefits.

 

[randompersonrandom]

My doc knows I'm on tirz, which currently IS compounded cause I've got thirty-four weeks of it to finish off before switching to my stockpile. But I think the next time I talk to him, I'll let him know that he should also run any labs he'd run if he suspected I was on a starter dose of survodutide, which I am not because then he'd have to put it in my chart.

My doc is smart and knows how it is.

 

[MsGizmo]

I am all for telling our medical professional everything as I think its disingenuous to expect them to be able to do their job with some major facts missing (even if you do think you know better than them). But I am currently applying for equity on my flat and have to give access to my medical records to the lenders, the less information showing I'm potentially sickly, taking un-prescribed drugs or at least a hypochondriac on that the better.

But then how in all good faith can I ask someone to help me when I haven't told them something that could be very relevant but I dont realise it? (The post about GLP-1's affecting PET-CT imaging scans being a case in point.)
So if you are taking anything, do you tell all, especially if it may affect insurance or other important life points in the future?

Obviously if taking illegal drugs (you know, the good stuff) then it can make sense not to shout too loud but what about lesser evils?

Well .. my doctor doesn't know where I'm getting my sema from nor does she know about the reta yet. To be fair I haven't seen her since I started the reta because she was on vacation for my last 3 month check up.

I think the substitute doctor knew that I hadn't filled my prescription for wegovy in quite awhile even though I had told him that I was taking it as scheduled because he asked me where I was getting it filled. I told him Walmart .. he looked confused and then just said to himself .. "don't fix it if its not broken"

I think my next appointment with my regular doctor might get interesting.

 

[Aminonaut]

I originally did but then had to come clean after every test that I had previously done poor in miraculously came back with perfect numbers.

 

[Morbius]

In the USA I have zero faith that our medical records will not be weaponized against us. I will not be working with my care team to document my crimes and indiscretions in an easy-to-read format. I use pot occasionally, it's state legal here, not going to divulge that either.

Even if it remains illegal for a business like a lender to examine your records, isn't it easy to imagine a scenario where you get far worse pricing if you don't "opt in" to "voluntary" disclosures?

And to put it mildly I trust the government less than business. They are looking for grievances to persecute, they have already gone to court seeking certain health data, so who knows when our thing might get you on a list? They are already confounding our use of grey market weight loss meds with hard core dangerous illegal stuff like fent. I believe this is a deliberate tactic to confuse the issue, demonize the whole practice.

If I end up in the hospital with some weird medical problem and I have to disclose for my safety, I guess I will tell them I take compounded tirz, that's at least a legal cover story for my reta.

 

[DazDillinger]

I do. I don’t tell them shit. End up in the hospital one time years ago for doing too many drugs and it’s followed me the rest of my life and I’m judged by it. They know everything about you I’ll probably get denied some heart surgery when I’m old because I did blow once and that’s what caused it.