Is Nexa no longer cool

[Rootus346]

She's stuck on Nexaph. That's ok.

Even at their full price, Nexaph peptides are way cheaper than compound or brand. Some people really need to scrape for every last dollar, but if someone is happy paying Nexaph's convenience prices, I think that's fine, they're still getting great value.

Speaking of which, Nexaph just started another T60 presale at $300. More expensive than other places? You bet. But knowing it'll be tested multiple times by different groups of people, that has value to me. Even if it's just a glorified expensive group buy, it fits my needs pretty well. I'm not too price sensitive, and I'll pay for really good testing and piece of mind.

Of course I'm going to buy a couple of those T60 kits. It does not matter that I have enough T60 and R24 to last me five or six years already. Can't have too much! I'm never getting fat again.

 

[CNCCurrency]

Even at their full price, Nexaph peptides are way cheaper than compound or brand. Some people really need to scrape for every last dollar, but if someone is happy paying Nexaph's convenience prices, I think that's fine, they're still getting great value.

Speaking of which, Nexaph just started another T60 presale at $300. More expensive than other places? You bet. But knowing it'll be tested multiple times by different groups of people, that has value to me. Even if it's just a glorified expensive group buy, it fits my needs pretty well. I'm not too price sensitive, and I'll pay for really good testing and piece of mind.

Of course I'm going to buy a couple of those T60 kits. It does not matter that I have enough T60 and R24 to last me five or six years already. Can't have too much! I'm never getting fat again.

Agreed

 

[Grogu]

Even at their full price, Nexaph peptides are way cheaper than compound or brand. Some people really need to scrape for every last dollar, but if someone is happy paying Nexaph's convenience prices, I think that's fine, they're still getting great value.

Speaking of which, Nexaph just started another T60 presale at $300. More expensive than other places? You bet. But knowing it'll be tested multiple times by different groups of people, that has value to me. Even if it's just a glorified expensive group buy, it fits my needs pretty well. I'm not too price sensitive, and I'll pay for really good testing and piece of mind.

Of course I'm going to buy a couple of those T60 kits. It does not matter that I have enough T60 and R24 to last me five or six years already. Can't have too much! I'm never getting fat again.

Totally agree with all of this. I’m probably missing something, but I looked at the prices for various kits from some CN sources and although it’s cheaper than Nexaph that cost doesn’t factor in the cost of testing if I had to do that on my own if I couldn’t find a testing server. So, I’ve been thinking lately that maybe some people aren’t testing to keep costs down. I like the extensive testing of Nexaph’s products. I’m in two 3 third party groups and 3 vendor sponsored testing groups right now.

So, I too just bought two T60 kits on the presale. Cost is $600. But if I sourced from CN and had to do my own testing, I’d want at least mass/purity and endotoxins. That would be same $600.

I recently found a CN vendor that appears fairly new, but with over 1,000 members in their telegram channel, but has great prices, I can’t find one COA or third party test group anywhere. Nothing on STG or FPPG . People ask the seller for COAs and the seller says none yet “dear”. Yeah, not for me.

I did buy some Cargi from a vendor other than Nexaph, but that vendor also has extensive testing, but not so much for Cargi. So, now I’m thinking I should have just ordered that from Cain too…

 

[Foggy-Hollow]

“

I have not heard to go pound sand since 3rd grade!
I think u r just a hater,
and I still say BS

Is there a fight at the bike racks after school? 🚌📚

Seriously tho— isn’t this why third party testing is key? Nexa has plenty of it.

Legit product and no response = RS is a non responder.

No test and no response = no clue where the gap is

 

[Foggy-Hollow]

I can’t find one COA or third party test group anywhere. Nothing on STG or FPPG . People ask the seller for COAs and the seller says none yet “dear”. Yeah, not for me.

The COA is what takes grey out of “mysterious random powder going into my body” into known substance, known concentration and controlled treatment.

No COA means it’s effectively street drugs: all you have is the seller’s word of mouth. Seller may or may not be intentionally lying, seller may have been lied to… there is no grounding factor. COA cuts through the noise.

 

[Grogu]

The COA is what takes grey out of “mysterious random powder going into my body” into known substance, known concentration and controlled treatment.

No COA means it’s effectively street drugs: all you have is the seller’s word of mouth. Seller may or may not be intentionally lying, seller may have been lied to… there is no grounding factor. COA cuts through the noise.

Totally agree, but I've been wondering lately how many folks actually test all their batches or participate in group testing of the batches they purchase. I think someone mentioned upthread that collectively we're a group open to experimentation. 😆

Even with COAs there is still some risk, but walking out of the house in the morning probably involves more risk. Buying from a new vendor and not have some testing is too risky for me, but understand that some folks have much high levels of risk tolerance and to each their own.

 

[Calm Logic]

Totally agree with all of this. I’m probably missing something, but I looked at the prices for various kits from some CN sources and although it’s cheaper than Nexaph that cost doesn’t factor in the cost of testing if I had to do that on my own if I couldn’t find a testing server. So, I’ve been thinking lately that maybe some people aren’t testing to keep costs down. I like the extensive testing of Nexaph’s products. I’m in two 3 third party groups and 3 vendor sponsored testing groups right now.

So, I too just bought two T60 kits on the presale. Cost is $600. But if I sourced from CN and had to do my own testing, I’d want at least mass/purity and endotoxins. That would be same $600.

I recently found a CN vendor that appears fairly new, but with over 1,000 members in their telegram channel, but has great prices, I can’t find one COA or third party test group anywhere. Nothing on STG or FPPG . People ask the seller for COAs and the seller says none yet “dear”. Yeah, not for me.

I did buy some Cargi from a vendor other than Nexaph, but that vendor also has extensive testing, but not so much for Cargi. So, now I’m thinking I should have just ordered that from Cain too…

There have been GBs that test more than mass and purity and they were still way cheaper than Nexaph. Or just buy Uther from a reseller. That is a pretty safe bet too.

But not filtering after doing all this testing shows some potentially cultish (group think) behavior to me. And I am not taking sides on the filtering debate, only mentioning a potential inconsistency in harm reduction behavior.

 

[BH_LOVER]

I bought 2 kits of Tz from NEXA last week and they arrived several days later. I am happy with the price as it is much lower than I was paying from a regular retail website I have been using for about 2 years. I plan to order a couple of kits of GHK-Cu and also researching some other items I am looking into. I settled on NEXA for ease of ordering, since I am officially old in April (60!) and crypto is daunting to me plus I need to order form a US based warehouse since I do travel internationally several times a year for work and I cannot jeopardize my Global Entry

 

[zpped]

Totally agree with all of this. I’m probably missing something, but I looked at the prices for various kits from some CN sources and although it’s cheaper than Nexaph that cost doesn’t factor in the cost of testing if I had to do that on my own if I couldn’t find a testing server. So, I’ve been thinking lately that maybe some people aren’t testing to keep costs down. I like the extensive testing of Nexaph’s products. I’m in two 3 third party groups and 3 vendor sponsored testing groups right now.

So, I too just bought two T60 kits on the presale. Cost is $600. But if I sourced from CN and had to do my own testing, I’d want at least mass/purity and endotoxins. That would be same $600.

I recently found a CN vendor that appears fairly new, but with over 1,000 members in their telegram channel, but has great prices, I can’t find one COA or third party test group anywhere. Nothing on STG or FPPG . People ask the seller for COAs and the seller says none yet “dear”. Yeah, not for me.

I did buy some Cargi from a vendor other than Nexaph, but that vendor also has extensive testing, but not so much for Cargi. So, now I’m thinking I should have just ordered that from Cain too…

Comparing CN price lists is like looking at Nexaph's pricelist. It's way higher than most people pay.
And you're completely skipping over group testing. I pay ~$8 for most of my tests. So those 2 kits of t60 cost me <$300 with testing. (and the next round of sales coming up I'm expecting ~$200)
I am actually fairly well off but throwing an extra 3-400 for the same product sounds like a bad deal to me.

 

[Grogu]

Comparing CN price lists is like looking at Nexaph's pricelist. It's way higher than most people pay.
And you're completely skipping over group testing. I pay ~$8 for most of my tests. So those 2 kits of t60 cost me <$300 with testing. (and the next round of sales coming up I'm expecting ~$200)
I am actually fairly well off but throwing an extra 3-400 for the same product sounds like a bad deal to me.

This is why I started that post with saying that I'm probably missing something.... The two test groups that I'm in now are around $30 each, but those are for Nexa products and the groups were easy to find. I'm going to have to figure out how to find these other group tests. I've spent some considerable amount of time in the rabbit hole, but not enough to find these. I've looked on FPPG and STG and just not seeing it. Time do dive deeper!

 

[Grogu]

since I am officially old in April (60!) and crypto is daunting to me plus I need to order form a US based warehouse since I do travel internationally several times a year for work and I cannot jeopardize my Global Entry

I travel internationally too, mostly for work, so I totally get what you say about Global Entry. I read on StG or maybe Peepers that it could be not only Global Entry, but also precheck. I'm not sure about that. But losing pre-check would be absolutely terrible for me. I fly domestically around 60 times a year. Luckily, I don't have disclose such an event to my employer (at least that I know of), but some in the forum say that they are mandated to report it.

I just bought a Niimbot direct and it's coming to me from CN. I'm like what the heck, I would have bought the one on Amazon had I known. I think it cleared customs this morning. I hope.

 

[Grogu]

There have been GBs that test more than mass and purity and they were still way cheaper than Nexaph. Or just buy Uther from a reseller. That is a pretty safe bet too.

But not filtering after doing all this testing shows some potentially cultish (group think) behavior to me. And I am not taking sides on the filtering debate, only mentioning a potential inconsistency in harm reduction behavior.

Thanks for the heads up about the GBs. I really haven't gone there yet, but I'm definitely going to look into it.

As far as filtering, I've been up in the air about filtering. But I bought all the supplies and will probably do it. 😏

 

[Habibibi]

Recently Bought 2 kits of T60 for about 320, using the US warehouse of a Chinese vendor. Testing came at less than 30. Kudos to Cain for the hustle, but there are twice as many us warehouses to buy from than even a year ago.

 

[BH_LOVER]

I travel internationally too, mostly for work, so I totally get what you say about Global Entry. I read on StG or maybe Peepers that it could be not only Global Entry, but also precheck. I'm not sure about that. But losing pre-check would be absolutely terrible for me. I fly domestically around 60 times a year. Luckily, I don't have disclose such an event to my employer (at least that I know of), but some in the forum say that they are mandated to report it.

I just bought a Niimbot direct and it's coming to me from CN. I'm like what the heck, I would have bought the one on Amazon had I known. I think it cleared customs this morning. I hope.

Hopefully something like that wouldn't flag anyway, but I guess you never know. Glad it made it through customs

 

[Calm Logic]

Thanks for the heads up about the GBs. I really haven't gone there yet, but I'm definitely going to look into it.

As far as filtering, I've been up in the air about filtering. But I bought all the supplies and will probably do it. 😏

It's easier if you are using pens, as you have to transfer anyway to a pen cartridge.

Otherwise, subq at least has more biological defenses than IM (with IM better than IV).

 

[Rootus346]

I travel internationally too, mostly for work, so I totally get what you say about Global Entry. I read on StG or maybe Peepers that it could be not only Global Entry, but also precheck. I'm not sure about that. But losing pre-check would be absolutely terrible for me. I fly domestically around 60 times a year. Luckily, I don't have disclose such an event to my employer (at least that I know of), but some in the forum say that they are mandated to report it.

I just bought a Niimbot direct and it's coming to me from CN. I'm like what the heck, I would have bought the one on Amazon had I known. I think it cleared customs this morning. I hope.

Ah that's an interesting point I hadn't considered. I occasionally buy things from Ali Express (including a Niimbot M2 a couple weeks ago...) and it did not occur to me that this could jeopardize my Global Entry. That would suuuuck.

 

[Rootus346]

Or just buy Uther from a reseller. That is a pretty safe bet too.

I've heard a couple times about Uther, but I don't know enough to feel the same assurance you seem to have. Is there a good source of more info? Maybe they have a Telegram/Discord? I'm always interested in keeping my options open.

But not filtering after doing all this testing shows some potentially cultish (group think) behavior to me. And I am not taking sides on the filtering debate, only mentioning a potential inconsistency in harm reduction behavior.

Yeah, filtering is such an easy step with clear harm reduction benefits, I don't know why it would be controversial.

Comparing CN price lists is like looking at Nexaph's pricelist. It's way higher than most people pay.

Are you referring to group buys? Are most people doing it that way now? Last time I did a non-Nexaph purchase I paid the published price. I'm a sucker? 🙂

Recently Bought 2 kits of T60 for about 320, using the US warehouse of a Chinese vendor. Testing came at less than 30. Kudos to Cain for the hustle, but there are twice as many us warehouses to buy from than even a year ago.

When Grogu mentions paying $30 for testing with Nexaph, it's not just mass/purity. The third-party test groups commonly test 3-5 vials for mass/purity, and then endotoxins, sterility, and even heavy metals and such. It's expensive, the ~$30 price is with like 55-60 test participants. If it was just mass/purity it would be a lot less. The cost of testing has zero to do with the vendor in any case, it's all Jano and everyone pays the same price.

 

[Grogu]

When Grogu mentions paying $30 for testing with Nexaph, it's not just mass/purity. The third-party test groups commonly test 3-5 vials for mass/purity, and then endotoxins, sterility, and even heavy metals and such. It's expensive, the ~$30 price is with like 55-60 test participants. If it was just mass/purity it would be a lot less. The cost of testing has zero to do with the vendor in any case, it's all Jano and everyone pays the same price.

Yes, we tested a crap load of stuff in one of the groups. I think 7 vials were donated and the tests were mass/purity x3, endotoxins x 2, sterility, heavy metals, fentanyl presence, and GCMS/LCMS screening for contamination. Best $30 bucks I ever spent!

 

[Calm Logic]

I've heard a couple times about Uther, but I don't know enough to feel the same assurance you seem to have. Is there a good source of more info? Maybe they have a Telegram/Discord? I'm always interested in keeping my options open.

For one thing, I've yet to see Uther have intra-batch variability in the fill like Nexaph has had a couple times. But I don't look at every test result at STG and elsewhere either.

STG has a cool spreadsheet and web app of 3P tests of different vendors. PWGrove website has some Uther results too, including sterility. Searching your TG groups for Uther R20 or whatever is another way.

 

[CNCCurrency]

Finnrick has a bunch of test results on nexaph with batch numbers that are pretty close to janoshik results he posts

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[RadicalCrimson]

I just ordered a kit for $300 that Nexaph sells for $850, this is insane.
No non-crypto fees and I actually already have a 3rd party Jano COA, instead of “Coming soon”.
I had no idea Nexaph prices had become so high relative to the competition.

 

[Calm Logic]

I had no idea Nexaph prices had become so high relative to the competition.

Exactly. The competition lowers the price every month or whatever while Cain of Nexaph holds fast.

So very hard to hoard with Nexaph, at least for many.

 

[Peptidedudez]

Finnrick has a bunch of test results on nexaph with batch numbers that are pretty close to janoshik results he posts

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Just curious. Whats stopping someone form sending a random vial and claiming as nexaph or any other vendor. How reliable is Finnrick anyways?

 

[Grogu]

Just curious. Whats stopping someone form sending a random vial and claiming as nexaph or any other vendor. How reliable is Finnrick anyways?

I was wondering this too. I also was thinking of sending a vial of cagri to Finnrick and telling them that it was tirzepatide to see what happens.

 

[Habibibi]

I've heard a couple times about Uther, but I don't know enough to feel the same assurance you seem to have. Is there a good source of more info? Maybe they have a Telegram/Discord? I'm always interested in keeping my options open.


Yeah, filtering is such an easy step with clear harm reduction benefits, I don't know why it would be controversial.

Are you referring to group buys? Are most people doing it that way now? Last time I did a non-Nexaph purchase I paid the published price. I'm a sucker? 🙂


When Grogu mentions paying $30 for testing with Nexaph, it's not just mass/purity. The third-party test groups commonly test 3-5 vials for mass/purity, and then endotoxins, sterility, and even heavy metals and such. It's expensive, the ~$30 price is with like 55-60 test participants. If it was just mass/purity it would be a lot less. The cost of testing has zero to do with the vendor in any case, it's all Jano and everyone pays the same price.

Yep, I've been in a bunch of those testing extravaganzas too, using other products. That's why price was all the way up to 30. And that's correct, cost of testing has nothing to do with vendor. So any testing group big enough can do it.

I was wondering this too. I also was thinking of sending a vial of cagri to Finnrick and telling them that it was tirzepatide to see what happens.

It's a fun way to test labs. Many labs have failed that test either by incompetence or greediness. Part of the reason Janoshik remains the reference .

 

[CNCCurrency]

I was wondering this too. I also was thinking of sending a vial of cagri to Finnrick and telling them that it was tirzepatide to see what happens.

It's free and just an added assurance.

 

[Rootus346]

Part of the reason Janoshik remains the reference .

Indeed. And honestly, it sucks - we need competition for lab testing. Good to have Jano, but a single testing vendor effective monopoly is not best for users.

 

[Grogu]

It's free and just an added assurance.

Yeah, definitely I'm going to do it. I have some cagri coming today and I'm going to send it to Finnrick and see what happens. I'm going to be truthful as far as the source and content.

 

[Habibibi]

Indeed. And honestly, it sucks - we need competition for lab testing. Good to have Jano, but a single testing vendor effective monopoly is not best for users.

Agreed. But since American labs can't get their stuff together, here we are.