Is T30 the next bunk product?

[Airborne Daddy]

Is it just me or are alot of these vendors offering t30 promos, discounts, and inventory liquidations? I found 5 vendors have done so all within the last week.... has me wondering if they got more shitty raws. HK 150, HOMEPEPTIDE 155, QYC 180, SRY 150, QST 139 .... regular prices like 180-230.... last 2 times I got from hk it was 220.... makes you wonder!

 

[GimmeABreak]

Is it just me or are alot of these vendors offering t30 promos, discounts, and inventory liquidations? I found 5 vendors have done so all within the last week.... has me wondering if they got more shitty raws. HK 150, HOMEPEPTIDE 155, QYC 180, SRY 150, QST 139 .... regular prices like 180-230.... last 2 times I got from hk it was 220.... makes you wonder!

Possible but more likely just a little competition in the market. As users start buying 40, 50 and 60mg kits they may have had some fall off in demand for T30 and are pricing it more competitively than a 60mg. The easy way to find out is to buy it and test it either yourself or with a group test. I have not seen very many bad T30 tests recently.

 

[indolent]

Is it just me or are alot of these vendors offering t30 promos, discounts, and inventory liquidations? I found 5 vendors have done so all within the last week.... has me wondering if they got more shitty raws. HK 150, HOMEPEPTIDE 155, QYC 180, SRY 150, QST 139 .... regular prices like 180-230.... last 2 times I got from hk it was 220.... makes you wonder!

What makes you think this is particular to the 30mg vials? T60 kits have been offered for the past month at $230 + shipping. Quality TBD, but no reason to assume bunk or shitty raws. A going-concern business has no incentive to offer those and damage their ongoing reputation, and their fake new companies take a long time to gain trust.

More likely, IMO, prices are dropping across the board as global popularity grows, raw manufacturers achieve better economy of scale, finishers and vendors buy at larger quantities and get better pricing, and vendors find more efficient ways to run their businesses.

As users start buying 40, 50 and 60mg kits they may have had some fall off in demand for T30

I think the market (demand) has a robust number of new entrants every week, so more people are on all doses. I doubt any demand fall-off for T30 or excess inventory or anything like that.

 

[nonyabizznez]

I bet T30 is their most popular item. With GBs it seems to be the 1st to hit MOQ. It's the perfect sized kit for the majority of Tirz users.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

i think we're going to see a lot of bad testing in coming months. the whole market is a hot steaming mess right now, if you're in a position to kick back and let it all shake out that is probably the smart move. If you need to buy something, it would be good to avoid "preorders" and group buys, and go through places with a track record of pre-testing that matches up with post-purchase third party testing. "domestic" vendors are also buying from china, where quality is extra hit-and-miss at the moment, you want to find the ones who ship after testing, and who you believe would be honest if they purchased a batch that turned out to be substandard (either selling it with truthful fill/purity figures, or eating the loss and not selling it). might as well let the vendor take the risk of a bad batch insofar as that's possible.

y'all dont see this but I've also noticed a big uptick in the number of random chinese vendors trying to spam the forum. I'm removing 5 or 6 accounts most mornings. I don't know for sure what this means beyond a lot of people trying to make money off of our little corner of the world, but you can make of it what you will.

 

[geoguy78]

if you're in a position to kick back and let it all shake out that is probably the smart move.

My thoughts exactly. I counted 40 T30 vials in my freezer last night that is supposed to supply both myself and my wife. I plan on waiting at least a year to let the market settle unless something happens that spurs me to buy earlier. The peptide market in general has been a dumpster fire lately, between zero peps, vendors shutting down, "lipo-c" that's really just water and food coloring, increased customs scrutiny...... No thanks

 

[keangkong]

i think we're going to see a lot of bad testing in coming months. the whole market is a hot steaming mess right now, if you're in a position to kick back and let it all shake out that is probably the smart move. If you need to buy something, it would be good to avoid "preorders" and group buys, and go through places with a track record of pre-testing that matches up with post-purchase third party testing. "domestic" vendors are also buying from china, where quality is extra hit-and-miss at the moment, you want to find the ones who ship after testing, and who you believe would be honest if they purchased a batch that turned out to be substandard (either selling it with truthful fill/purity figures, or eating the loss and not selling it). might as well let the vendor take the risk of a bad batch insofar as that's possible.

y'all dont see this but I've also noticed a big uptick in the number of random chinese vendors trying to spam the forum. I'm removing 5 or 6 accounts most mornings. I don't know for sure what this means beyond a lot of people trying to make money off of our little corner of the world, but you can make of it what you will.

I'm thinking the opposite as to testing right now: Vendors who make at least some effort to attract repeat business will be particularly worried about receiving zero peptide product. Still, since the overall trend is for the prices to go markedly down and this has continued to happen despite great customs seizures and during a crackdown on grey in China, if you have more than six months of peptides, it's still probably worth waiting.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

i think we're going to see a lot of bad testing in coming months. the whole market is a hot steaming mess right now, if you're in a position to kick back and let it all shake out that is probably the smart move. If you need to buy something, it would be good to avoid "preorders" and group buys, and go through places with a track record of pre-testing that matches up with post-purchase third party testing. "domestic" vendors are also buying from china, where quality is extra hit-and-miss at the moment, you want to find the ones who ship after testing, and who you believe would be honest if they purchased a batch that turned out to be substandard (either selling it with truthful fill/purity figures, or eating the loss and not selling it). might as well let the vendor take the risk of a bad batch insofar as that's possible.

y'all dont see this but I've also noticed a big uptick in the number of random chinese vendors trying to spam the forum. I'm removing 5 or 6 accounts most mornings. I don't know for sure what this means beyond a lot of people trying to make money off of our little corner of the world, but you can make of it what you will.

I concur 100%

 

[Airborne Daddy]

What makes you think this is particular to the 30mg vials? T60 kits have been offered for the past month at $230 + shipping. Quality TBD, but no reason to assume bunk or shitty raws. A going-concern business has no incentive to offer those and damage their ongoing reputation, and their fake new companies take a long time to gain trust.

More likely, IMO, prices are dropping across the board as global popularity grows, raw manufacturers achieve better economy of scale, finishers and vendors buy at larger quantities and get better pricing, and vendors find more efficient ways to run their businesses.

I think the market (demand) has a robust number of new entrants every week, so more people are on all doses. I doubt any demand fall-off for T30 or excess inventory or anything like that.

I think specific to tirz 30 cuz a few vendors had only that particular item on sale. When asc sold bad tirz 15 it was only that not the 10 and 30mg... I got 2 bad kits on a Christmas promo.

 

[beefsteak]

Everyone you listed is probably a reseller except for SRY.

I don't think it's a scam because the price on tirz is bottoming out. I think now is the perfect time to stock up before it shoots back up.