Is the Janoshik screening for contamination worth it ?
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Benito Camela
GLP-1 Novice
I like to see everything as a risk potential; with these peptide orders the risk is mainly that you get something less pure or even something different. Contamination is very rare, and I understood that Jano implied it's not needed, but the risk is never 0.
From seeing his interviews I am focusing on maintaining sterility of an opened vial from the first use. From what I've learned here on the filtering topics I am also filtering everything.
From seeing his interviews I am focusing on maintaining sterility of an opened vial from the first use. From what I've learned here on the filtering topics I am also filtering everything.
chmuse
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I don't care too much about purity unless it's degradingly rapidly... There's a link somewhere on this forum that name brand only has to be 97%. Purity to me is more like a benchmark saying they're trying.
A bunch have failed sterility, the smart thing to do is just filter it every time. A filter is like $1, an extra $1 per vial won't kill anyone.
The important part of testing for me is mass. So many come overfilled, I see 10-20% pretty regularly and we've had cases where it was almost double. I'd be pretty miserable if my dose was double what I expected.
A bunch have failed sterility, the smart thing to do is just filter it every time. A filter is like $1, an extra $1 per vial won't kill anyone.
The important part of testing for me is mass. So many come overfilled, I see 10-20% pretty regularly and we've had cases where it was almost double. I'd be pretty miserable if my dose was double what I expected.
Purity testing over 99% says nothing about contaminants, sterility, etc. The vast majority of material in the vial is excipients and not the API we care about. It's just about how degraded or not the API is.
Something might fall behind a shelf in a hot warehouse and get discovered years later and be 85% purity, but that won't say it's any more or less likely to be contaminated than something that is 99.93%
chmuse
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My guess would be they messed up and sent you overfilled 15's (I'm assuming this is tirz?) since that's also a standard size. Sterility fails aren't uncommon, most don't even check for it. I'd want a replacement or refund for the underfilling though.
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nonyabizznez
GLP-1 Specialist
Can you break this down for us? What substance was submitted for testing and what was the mass suppose to be? Were samples taken from the same kit? Could a submitter have sent in the wrong vial like from a 15mg kit accidentally?
Give us a summary please.
I wouldn't trust half the labs Finnrick is using... just me.
728D that I sent came back at 17.5mg
There was another finrick report found that tested at 16.8 ( not related to our test ).
728W was 33, 33, 38.
Jano wouldn't specify which vial tested at 17.5mg so the US Donor sent another vial to peptidetest for testing, came back at 38.
All different vials.
I eventually explained to jano we weren't abusing the system and the 17.5mg vial is what I got as RT30.
It was my vial, 728D that tested at 17.5.
The us donor that tested 2 vials from the same kit had the jano vial at 33mg and the peptidetest vial at 38mg. SAME KIT!
Sterility failed on 728W
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rsmith
GLP-1 Apprentice
It's not just you. Finnrick is a joke.
Sam Smagegy
GLP-1 Novice
Hi Friends,....
Can anyone tell me the procedure for testing --- Do you send in a Whole bottle of AAS or just 1 cc --- How does it work?
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Can anyone tell me the procedure for testing --- Do you send in a Whole bottle of AAS or just 1 cc --- How does it work?
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Justagirlandherdog
Recently Joined
Sorry I'm new, how do you filter your vial?
From my understanding it attempts to identify any other compounds in the vial. Fillers/excipients and potential contaminates.
Extreme example: You can have a vial of T30 that is contaminated with a lethal dose of 50mg of cyanide, but a basic purity/mass COA result could still show Tirzepatide - 99.99% Purity - Quantity 30.00mg.
The left over 0.01% is generally assumed to be tirzepatide degradation byproducts, not necessarily contaminates.
The purity number on your COA excludes common fillers/excipients and it also doesn't take into account any compounds that may exist, but are outside of the particular method's testing range or sensitivity.
(Not a chemist, so someone else can probably do a better job of explaining using proper terminology).
chmuse
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skeptick
GLP-1 Apprentice
Check out videos on YouTube to learn about filtering and the supplies needed to do it you can find links to in the Supplies Forum.
rsmith
GLP-1 Apprentice
Not shilling because nothing is sold on this thread that I'm aware of... but there is a channel where people can share their experience with Finnrick. Finnrick was also interviewed by the channel owner who graciously agreed to allow me to share invites with my friends. Please share your experience, positive or negative, and help others understand what Finnrick is doing and perhaps uncover why.
https://discord.gg/sr9vUTFgag Discord invite
https://t.me/+f1Qmiebkgz1lMzE1 Telegram
https://peptide.chat/invite/YPEb27jM Peptide Chat
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Justagirlandherdog
Recently Joined
Thank you!
chmuse
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I'd encourage anyone who joins that server to keep their wits about them and think carefully about whether you're comfortable implicitly trusting a server that is 90% AI generated content and whose owner views how many times she's been banned from other servers, vendors and otherwise, as a badge of honor.
I'd also like to add that this forum is indexed by Google and at times a good 75% of people here are 'guests' so please be aware you are not only sharing with friends- you are sharing with any random person who finds the forum.
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randompersonrandom
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I have such FOMO after not getting to see the SSA telegram go feral, now I join ANY discord that even LOOKS like it may have a trainwreck at some point. I have collected enough potentially sketchy peps and have no need of more; now I'm collecting potentially sketchy discords and that's just where I am. I'm gonna quit this nonsense and go make a glass spider for a new coworker who's sad everyone has one except her (she wasn't here when I gave them all out.)
Nathanologist
GLP-1 Apprentice
So… basically do you all just add the $300 testing fee per kit you order? Test every one of them?
desinr-gal
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Wait. What? You make glass spiders?! Do you have an Etsy?
desinr-gal
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I always rewatch this before doing mine and I still mess up! I just watched one where they pre wet the filter with bac water... any thoughts? Does that help? I've destroyed a few..
Also the person only reconned with half the planned bac, so that after filtering they added the rest of the bac through the filter to flush out the rest of the peptide that may have gotten stuck inide. and then some more..
Thoughts??
randompersonrandom
GLP-1 Enthusiast
No, nothing so complex--I have a glass bead habit, and when I'm not in the mood to make a whole piece of jewelry, I sometimes make a little glass beaded spider! I gave them all away in my office earlier this year, because I know I'm never going to dust them and would rather they go live their own little lives. But one girl I like wasn't here yet, and was wistful that she missed it. So I just made this for her.
desinr-gal
GLP-1 Enthusiast
omg that's adorable!
randompersonrandom
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Also, I'm prolly doxing myself but whatever, I'm so tired. If you know me in real life and you see my spider and my cat and think "Whoa, hey, I see ________ on that peptide forum!" no the fuck you do not.
desinr-gal
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Im a jeweler/ designer; I appreciate the time and design work!
randompersonrandom
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Thank you! I learned from this video:
They're surprisingly easy to make once you get the hang of it.
chmuse
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Please be careful on that server. I'm not looking to start shit but there are multiple problematic users who are there because they have been banned elsewhere for bad behavior.
Do you... sell the fancy spiders? Just asking. No reason. I've never had a pet jumping spider. Nope, just think it's super cute.
Make friends. Order the same stuff. Split the cost. Doesn't have to be expensive.
When I had my guide up my irl BFF found it when I gave him a couple vials and was SO PROUD he reconned a vial without my help. 😬 He did eventually figure out it was me because I'm a damn nerd with my profile pictures.
