KLOW - worthless blue garbage, or amazing peptide?

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I take Klow most mornings, and I was recently told by a couple of seemingly knowledgeable people that it is blue nonsense that does nothing. i wouldn't be the least bit surprised it that were true, nor would I be surprised to discover it is a blue miracle; I simply don't' know and I couldn't tell you if it is doing anything or not, truly. What's your opinion, experience with Klow? Anyone have clear results one way or the other?

feel free to debate....
 
I've had a knee injury for about a year and a half that never seemed to get better.

Been on KLOW (2mg GHK-Cu, 0.4mg KOV, 0.4mg TB4, 0.4mg BPC-157) for 36 days so far, and the knee is starting to heal and feel better. The only real metric I have is that I can now sit in lotus in yoga again without pain.

I have no idea if it is the KLOW. I have read that retatrutide also has anti-inflammatory properties so it could be that. I don't know, but I am going to continue with KLOW and assess when I am at 60 days of use.
 
jason370 said:
I take Klow most mornings, and I was recently told by a couple of seemingly knowledgeable people that it is blue nonsense that does nothing. i wouldn't be the least bit surprised it that were true, nor would I be surprised to discover it is a blue miracle; I simply don't' know and I couldn't tell you if it is doing anything or not, truly. What's your opinion, experience with Klow? Anyone have clear results one way or the other?

feel free to debate....
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I have not used KLOW before, but I have certainly profited from two of the active ingredients in the KLOW blend, BpC and TB-500. There will always be naysayers who find it hard to acknowledge objective reality. There may also be liars who falsely claim their results. For me, Wolverine objectively improved my left shoulder [cursed with a torn rotator cuff and biceps tendinosis], where range of motion is now near ninety percent. Here, there are folks who have posted their before-and-after images of KLOW usage. You could say that they are fake/AI or whatever, but when hundreds and thousands of people have claimed to see benefits from something, it gets harder to deny the veracity of their assertions. That said, there will still be folks who say, "There is no evidence of it working in human trials" or something similar. But at the end of the day, it's pretty much like any other medicine. It may work for some people, and not for others. Then, about it being dangerous, sure, that's plausible, but so is anything in excess. Even Acetaminophen is hepatotoxic and can lead to overdose.
Looking at it logically, if used for systemic effects, I would limit the duration of usage. If the worry is about unwarranted effects in other areas, I look at it this way. The metabolic signaling disruption that is caused by injuries is one of the main reasons why so many drugs affect only the injured area. Hence, it is logical to suppose that even KLOW will do the same at moderate doses.
I don't know if that answered your query, but to summarize, KLOW hasn't caused many known fatalities and seems relatively safe. Thus, only you could ascertain if it works for you or not.
 
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I have not used KLOW before, but I have certainly profited from two of the active ingredients in the KLOW blend, BpC and TB-500. There will always be naysayers who find it hard to acknowledge objective reality. There may also be liars who falsely claim their results. For me, Wolverine objectively improved my left shoulder [cursed with a torn rotator cuff and biceps tendinosis], where range of motion is now near ninety percent. Here, there are folks who have posted their before-and-after images of KLOW usage. You could say that they are fake/AI or whatever, but when hundreds and thousands of people have claimed to see benefits from something, it gets harder to deny the veracity of their assertions. That said, there will still be folks who say, "There is no evidence of it working in human trials" or something similar. But at the end of the day, it's pretty much like any other medicine. It may work for some people, and not for others. Then, about it being dangerous, sure, that's plausible, but so is anything in excess. Even Acetaminophen is hepatotoxic and can lead to overdose.
Looking at it logically, if used for systemic effects, I would limit the duration of usage. If the worry is about unwarranted effects in other areas, I look at it this way. The metabolic signaling disruption that is caused by injuries is one of the main reasons why so many drugs affect only the injured area. Hence, it is logical to suppose that even KLOW will do the same at moderate doses.
I don't know if that answered your query, but to summarize, KLOW hasn't caused many known fatalities and seems relatively safe. Thus, only you could ascertain if it works for you or not.
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This has been my experience/observation. The anecdotal evidence is just so compelling, but there's no real scientific evidence. it's crazy. I want to believe, I really do (and in fact I take it daily). Question: do you need to stay on a maintenance dose for your shoulder, or are you simply healed, no need for it any more until the next injury occurs?
 
No experience with KLOW, but took KPV (500mcg D), GHK-Cu (2-3mg D), BPC (500mcg D)/TB (1mg 2xW) together during my four month protocol, and now have a new tendon issue that wasn't there before, and zero skin improvement. Aside from GLPs and GH, I'm starting to think we're just injecting overpriced sugar water, chock full of LPS, TFA, and heavy metals. 😆

I jest, but the thought has crossed my mind...several times.
 
I've seen too many anecdotal reports, with pictures, that show that KLOW is effective despite no human studies. I have eczema and I've been pinning KLOW for three weeks and I'm already seeing some positive changes. I did see changes with just KPV alone some months ago, but that was after 2 months of daily research. I'm going to continue on for a total of 90 days and see if the benefits continue. I've even had the ISRs subside, so it seems doable at this point.
 
GHK-Cu is amazing and my results have been confirmed in "blind testing." My dermatologist with no prompt from me said my skin had amazing improvements and asked what I was doing.

KPV is amazing, I know of two people who reported their gut issues were more improved than anything else they had tried in years.
 
KPV and ARA-290 make the most intuitive sense to me, with ARA-290 having more human evidence as an anti-inflammatory than anything in KLOW.
DunningKruger said:
No experience with KLOW, but took KPV (500mcg D), GHK-Cu (2-3mg D), BPC (500mcg D)/TB (1mg 2xW) together during my four month protocol, and now have a new tendon issue that wasn't there before, and zero skin improvement. Aside from GLPs and GH, I'm starting to think we're just injecting overpriced sugar water, chock full of LPS, TFA, and heavy metals. 😆

I jest, but the thought has crossed my mind...several times.
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Bad vibes could be a result of low blood levels of _____(insert most expensive non-GLP)___.
 
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jason370 said:
real scientific evidence
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That right there is the problem. This is an argument from authority fallacy. Clinical/lab results are NOT the sole arbiter of "scientific" evidence. Science is the objective study of reality. As such, IF the peptide did factually work for them, then it's REAL evidence.
jason370 said:
I want to believe,
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Sure, but belief is dogma. You NEED to know. So, shouldn't we strive for that instead?
jason370 said:
do you need to stay on a maintenance dose for your shoulder, or are you simply healed
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No to both. I'm not completely healed yet. I have finished one cycle last week and am going to start another one after a gap. And I don't need it for maintenance because this was for injury healing, not metabolic maladaptation like what GLp's counter.
 
KLOW and GHK-Cu/AHK-Cu are ripe for placebo effects!
They are brightly colored and they hurt going in, they MUST do something.

That's what I thought, when I started using it just because I didn't want to have so much excess skin flopping around after I lost the weight I was hoping to.

And 2 months later I was asked what my skin protocol was... huh? Nothing, why?... Cuz your wrinkles on your eyes and your neck look better! Huh, OK!
I mean, I'd noticed that the hairs I thought I'd gotten rid of were coming back (WTF Ears?), but I didn't think it was that big a deal. 10 months a full kit and 60lbs later I didn't have the floppy skin I thought I would. Color me impressed. Maybe the weight loss, extra protein/hydration etc were the real cause. I don't know.

Maybe it would have all been the same anyway. I'll never know, but it made me want to actually start a face, neck, and hands protocol. I don't do as much subq now, but I do slop the blue goo on, hoping it preserves the gains I got at an older age.
 
KLOW from a good source contains BPC-157, TB500, KPV, and GHKCu.

GHK is a little questionable, but I don't think you have a leg to stand on to claim that the others are worthless.

These are the same people that will tell you that you pee out vitamins so they're worthless. The same people who tell you not to supplement potassium because it's dangerous, and to just eat a banana instead. The same people who tell you to take cold medicines to help heal your cold.

The common clay of the American New West. You know, simpletons.
 
I've read the benefits may be more age related so the older you are the more benefit you may have . I've just started so have no idea of it will work or not , but I'm hoping so!
 
I really can't tell, it hasn't cured my wrinkles but maybe it's preventing new ones? I do have farily nice skin but it's really hard to say. I'm gonna continue to take anyway.
 
I feel like if BPC and TB500 didn't work they wouldn't be WADA prohibited.
As for my anecdotal experience, my nails have grown so long and strong, my skin tone and texture has greatly improved, I had a friend ask me one day if I was wearing false lashes, I was dealing with runners knee and my physio was surprised at how quickly I was healing from it.
So for myself I for sure see the benefits, I also feel like my GI symptoms (bloating) have improved too.
36F for reference.
 
TB is also used in racing horses and camels:

theroyalvet.com

TB 1000

Specifically manufactured for elite horses and camelsTB-1000 is a synthetic version of natural occurring peptides found in horses, camels and other high performance animals. Its regenerative properties help the body heal itself and build up strength naturally. The TB-1000 formulation is chemical...
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jason370 said:
I take Klow most mornings, and I was recently told by a couple of seemingly knowledgeable people that it is blue nonsense that does nothing. i wouldn't be the least bit surprised it that were true, nor would I be surprised to discover it is a blue miracle; I simply don't' know and I couldn't tell you if it is doing anything or not, truly. What's your opinion, experience with Klow? Anyone have clear results one way or the other?

feel free to debate....
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Literally just made a post about klow. In mine I said that for how expensive it is I just cannot fathom that it’s worth it. I just can’t seem to get results from it.
 
Randyfrog90 said:
Literally just made a post about klow. In mine I said that for how expensive it is I just cannot fathom that it’s worth it. I just can’t seem to get results from it.
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It may not work for you, although there's quite a bit of published data on topical applications of GHK-Cu. I don't understand the expensive part though. It's $60/yr for subq and maybe $100/yr for topical. You'll spend more on syringes and serums that on the peptide.
 
joseblo said:
KLOW and GHK-Cu/AHK-Cu are ripe for placebo effects!
They are brightly colored and they hurt going in, they MUST do something.

That's what I thought, when I started using it just because I didn't want to have so much excess skin flopping around after I lost the weight I was hoping to.

And 2 months later I was asked what my skin protocol was... huh? Nothing, why?... Cuz your wrinkles on your eyes and your neck look better! Huh, OK!
I mean, I'd noticed that the hairs I thought I'd gotten rid of were coming back (WTF Ears?), but I didn't think it was that big a deal. 10 months a full kit and 60lbs later I didn't have the floppy skin I thought I would. Color me impressed. Maybe the weight loss, extra protein/hydration etc were the real cause. I don't know.

Maybe it would have all been the same anyway. I'll never know, but it made me want to actually start a face, neck, and hands protocol. I don't do as much subq now, but I do slop the blue goo on, hoping it preserves the gains I got at an older age.
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Does the "blue goo" make your urine turn blue??? Might be worth it just for that...
 
My partner has shown interest in GHK-cu for its hair and skin benefits but I’m considering getting her klow for the added benefits especially anti inflammatory ? Would anyone recommend I get just the GHk-cu first or just go ahead with klow.
 
joseblo said:
KLOW and GHK-Cu/AHK-Cu are ripe for placebo effects!
They are brightly colored and they hurt going in, they MUST do something.

That's what I thought, when I started using it just because I didn't want to have so much excess skin flopping around after I lost the weight I was hoping to.

And 2 months later I was asked what my skin protocol was... huh? Nothing, why?... Cuz your wrinkles on your eyes and your neck look better! Huh, OK!
I mean, I'd noticed that the hairs I thought I'd gotten rid of were coming back (WTF Ears?), but I didn't think it was that big a deal. 10 months a full kit and 60lbs later I didn't have the floppy skin I thought I would. Color me impressed. Maybe the weight loss, extra protein/hydration etc were the real cause. I don't know.

Maybe it would have all been the same anyway. I'll never know, but it made me want to actually start a face, neck, and hands protocol. I don't do as much subq now, but I do slop the blue goo on, hoping it preserves the gains I got at an older age.
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you rub klow on your face? I gotta ask cause I'm new here 😊
 
I have been on KLOW, not the blend, but individual injections (I like to tweak my dosages of BPC and TB)...
I didn't realize what it was doing for me until I stopped. Noticed the glute tear I was hoping to help heal, did actually get better, but not completely and it started to get more painful...my knees also became more painful (I have an old ACL/PCL tear). I hadn't noticed they had improved so much.
This cycle I am running longer before cycling off and upping the BPC and TB portion.
Keep in mind, I am older so I do have more long term damage and arthritis creeping in so it was probably much more noticeable for me than someone who is younger.
 
bay_area_schizo said:
you rub klow on your face? I gotta ask cause I'm new here 😊
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Not KLOW, but topical GHK-Cu is well studied for skin care. Some people add SNAP8 to it for some topical "botox light" effects. Don't pay for the freeze dried vials, you can get plastic tubes of GHK for ~$10/gr and then mix it with HA to make a serum. Search for it!
 
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