Let's talk GLP1's downfall - MUSCLE LOSS

A post on reddit I believe . If you go to L***y site the manufacturer of Reta its there if you dig. They post their ongoing trials . I tried to sign up as a test subject. You can volunteer to be a part of studies. My luck I would get the placebo.
 
According to my Smart Watch, I have averaged 66lbs of muscle mass for all three months I have been on reta. I have lost 22lbs in that time. BF% is currently between 15-17%.

I have been rock climbing 2 days a week, hot yoga 2 days a week and just added weights once a week. 100g of protein per day has been the goal. As has been said already, retaining muscle is possible if you have some kind of resistance training and adequate protein.
 
According to my Smart Watch, I have averaged 66lbs of muscle mass for all three months I have been on reta. I have lost 22lbs in that time. BF% is currently between 15-17%.

I have been rock climbing 2 days a week, hot yoga 2 days a week and just added weights once a week. 100g of protein per day has been the goal. As has been said already, retaining muscle is possible if you have some kind of resistance training and adequate protein.
What type of smart watch can tell body muscle mass?
 
I just stay in the gym. Eat protein-centric meals. Drink about a gallon and a half a day. And get sleep. If anything ive gained muscle as ive lost weight. In fact im wondering if the muscle gain is outshining the weight loss because ive stayed a similar weight for a month with a pretty aggressive calorie deficit sometimes as much as a 1000c deficit from current tdee.

As for supps im running tmg hmb and epicatechin with a mens multi and a digestive support. I know the first 3 dont have great scientific support saying they work. But for as cheap as it was. Eh why not try.
Could be placebo but i dont get sore after pushing 20 miles on a exercise bike and go home feeling like i could do it again. Have i found the secret to unlimited energy? 😂
 
I still have not seen a study where in a controlled environment of strength training and adequate protein and calorie intake, there has been some sort of significant muscle loss. There has also been talk of bone density loss.

Regardless to that point, the perfect counter to that issue is a low dose of Oxandrolone, as clinically it is used for muscle and bone sparing especially in a low food, minimum protein environment
Are you using it? Is it a pin or a supplement?
 
So you've lost an enormous amount of weight. Have you noticed how much muscle mass you've lost?
Arguably the biggest drawback to GLP-1's is the loss of muscle mass. Many in the healthcare industry are espousing an early death due to GLP-1's rapid weight loss going hand in hand with rapid muscle loss. Older GLP-1 patients losing so much muscle mass they cannot gain back and will no longer be able to support their own body weight as they age.
Let's talk about gaining this muscle mass back. We have some great tools at our disposal: CJC-1295, Ipamorelin, Tesamorelin, GH, ABS.
What are you trying and what have been the results?
Straight from PMC, “Ideally, weight loss should be derived almost exclusively from the fat mass compartment as this is the main driver of metabolic disease, however, several studies have shown that there is an accompanying loss of tissue from the fat-free compartment, especially skeletal muscle. Population groups including post-menopausal women, the elderly, those with metabolic disease and athletes may be particularly at risk of skeletal muscle loss when following a weight management programme. Research studies that have addressed this issue across a range of population groups are reviewed with a focus upon the contribution of resistance and endurance forms of exercise and a higher intake dietary protein above the current guideline of 0.8 g/kg body weight/day. While findings can be contradictory, overall, the consensus appears that fat-free and skeletal muscle masses can be preserved, albeit to varying degrees by including both forms of exercise (but especially resistance forms) in the weight management intervention. Equally, higher intakes of protein can protect loss of these body compartments, acting either separately or synergistically with exercise. Elderly individuals in particular may benefit most from this approach. Thus, the evidence supports the recommendations for intakes of protein above the current guidelines of 0.8 g/kg body weight/d for the healthy elderly population to also be incorporated into the dietary prescription for weight management in this age group.”

TLDR: if you severely cut calories, your body will go into salvation note that means it will jettison whatever consumes calories, namely muscle. So if you aren’t doing anything that tells your body that it needs to retain that muscle, you will lose it so if you add in weight training and up your protein, you will preserve your muscle. This is not new science it has been known for a long time. I think the haters of the new medication‘s have used the fact that you will lose muscle as ammunition on why people shouldn’t use these drugs.
 
I think one thing you are forgetting is the age of RS. HGH can be extremely beneficial to older population while Tesa and CJC/Ipa etc can be difficult.
I don’t get why tesa etc is allegedly safer. Let’s say you use either HGH or tesa etc and control it so Igf levels are the same. Is tesa etc safer? And is it easier to reach a specific Igf level with tesa etc? Finally, I’m sure I’ve said this already. Glp does not decrease muscle mass any more than a calorie deficit without it. People have lost too much muscle on cuts for many decades before glp. It’s why, for example, you can lose less muscle on a slow cut. Last finally, and HGH is prescribed a lot less than other compounds for muscle loss, and what is prescribed, will tell you a lot.
 

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