Mitochondria Repair

[Nathanologist]

I’m married to a PA who’s spent a decade in the OR, assisting some truly talented surgeons. Her biggest frustration? Many assume that being top of their field in medicine automatically makes them experts in everything else. She’s fact-checked them mid-surgery more than once on outdated or unsupported claims they toss around as gospel. Like literally ivermectin as COVID treatment, and yes even bleach injections (just because your immune system uses hypochlorous acid doesn’t mean injecting diluted bleach does anything but harm- yes, I’m serious this was actual OR discussion as viable and factual)

I’ve got an amazing auto mechanic—brilliant with VW Group cars. But I wouldn’t take his stock picks or medical advice. Expertise doesn’t transfer by ego.

It’s like training dice to roll only threes: after four “failures,” the dice finally land double threes and you declare victory—then start selling your revolutionary dice-training method. That’s quackery in a nutshell.

 

[Nathanologist]

Apologies @swimmer this thread has really taken a turn off topic! 🤣😆🤣

 

[PopTart]

Seeds starts his day hoping that what he does has a positive impact on his wallet and fame.

I met him when he was in med school - friends were in school with him. He was a flake then and he’s a flake now.

 

[swimmer]

Apologies @swimmer this thread has really taken a turn off topic! 🤣😆🤣

No worries I am enjoying the discussions with my bag of popcorn. Lots of great info as well as entertainment.🙂

 

[CrimsonTaco47]

I feel great on mots-c. Maybe it’s healing all my damaged mitochondria, maybe it’s uppers, idk. But my mom felt like garbage for 2 weeks on it then felt great, research says it’s like a metabolic detox. I’m 35 so maybe I’m metabolically superior 💪. My biggest complaint is that it’s super annoying to have to keep reconstituting new vials when some protocols suggest up to 10mg at a time…I don’t know if I’ve ever seen it sold in a higher amount than 10mg…or at least thats whats most common. It’s so annoying and pricey.

 

[SummerX]

I feel great on mots-c. Maybe it’s healing all my damaged mitochondria, maybe it’s uppers, idk. But my mom felt like garbage for 2 weeks on it then felt great, research says it’s like a metabolic detox. I’m 35 so maybe I’m metabolically superior 💪. My biggest complaint is that it’s super annoying to have to keep reconstituting new vials when some protocols suggest up to 10mg at a time…I don’t know if I’ve ever seen it sold in a higher amount than 10mg…or at least thats whats most common. It’s so annoying and pricey.

I’ve bought 20mg and 40mg kits, but really want 100mg kits.. but my vendor says 50 kits MOQ for 100mg 😭

 

[psycho_driver]

Haha, this thread is great. I was trying to give a diplomatic answer earlier. I like what I'm reading!

Also, Hunter Williams may be knowledgeable but ugh does he sound like a douche canoe.

When he hopped on his wife's stream the other day I figured out what it is that is a bit off-putting about Hunter. I don't think he has an ounce of a sense of humor. He also kinda has dead eyes.

 

[psycho_driver]

Anyone have faith in, or experience with NAD+ patches?

The Mind Pump guys claim they like the patches way more than other methods of delivery, but that was when they had a guest on who sells patches so . . . (I did like that guest, smart guy and he explained some stuff I didn't know about MOTS-C ISRs)

Also the sports performance coach who says "umm" a lot in his interviews but seems to be extremely knowledgeable says to definitely never get NAD+ IVs. He says you're just supercharging any cancer and senescent cells by doing so.

 

[jordekorn]

Another common size is 50mg. Uther has it in 30mg and 50mg.

I actually got 30mg x10 from nexaph for 310$, no shipping cost and came 2 days later. Ss-31

 

[Think]

I actually got 30mg x10 from nexaph for 310$, no shipping cost and came 2 days later. Ss-31

Are you satisfied with the quality?

 

[jordekorn]

Are you satisfied with the quality?

I’ve never taken it before, and I just started 2 weeks ish ago. I have several things from them and haven’t felt disappointed, maybe with Epithalon, but it just reconstituted oddly, still ended up clear. I guess I feel like Ive heard they charge more but also do have legit coas, I’m alright not testing it myself or finding a group to test, or groups tests I can trust. I saw the ss31 for 10$ more for the same mg, and the mg was 3x each vial of the discord vendor.

 

[Jack.donaghy]

Next week I will be finishing a cycle of tesamorilin/ipmorelin which I am very happy with. My next journey might be to repair my mitochondria. I am in my early 60s so my guess is my mitochondria are in rough shape. I have a ton of questions about this subject. I am on high dose tirz (maintenance) and I am at my target weight. I work out every day. Swimming, hiking, weight lifting. I might be in the best shape I have every been. I have mots-c from sry, ss31 is on the way from Jeep. I recently learned I need to start nad+ first. I will order that soon. I also have 5‐amino 1mq if needed. My questions are:

how do I know my mitochondria need repair?
What can I expect when they are repaired or optomized?
Will my swim times improve?
Will I get stronger?
Do I need more than NAD+, SS31 and mots-c?
What should a cycle look like?

I would love to hear your thoughts and hear about your experiences.

Love your journey! You are years ahead of me and a clear inspiration.

 

[Doug5421]

NR or NMN is cheap if you know where to find & are precursors to NAD, no need to shoot up, just pills. On them currently before my SS-31 comes, which I plan to do a good month or two on, then time off. Don't feel the need for MOTS-C & will take NR indefinitely.

 

[Such1943]

How was the tesamorilin/ipmorelin cycle? Decent HGH alternative, or just get the real stuff? I don't think I'd want to go beyond replacement 2-3 ui levels.

 

[wildcat0367]

mitochondria

Swimmer, anyone in their 60's could use a boost for their mitochondria. I am 69 and Mots-NAD+ and SS-31 made a noticeable difference in energy and workout performance. The issue for me is there is no solid research on dosing these peptides. It took trial and error for me to find out what works for me personally. These peptides are expensive and most say to micro dose them and I tried that but got nothing from any of it doing that. What worked for me, 10 mg SS-31 daily for 20 days. Then ran Mots-C at 10 mg a day and 100 mg NAD+ 3 X a week. I ran 5-Amino 1MQ as well at 50 mg 3 X a day. I eased my doses up until I got noticeable results and this is where I ended up. Ran the Mots and NAD for 30 days and have repeated this twice so far. Everyone is different so we each have to tailor our research to get the results we desire. Post up results when you have tried a cycle and let us all know how it went. Good luck.

 

[50ShadesGreyMarket]

Apologies @swimmer this thread has really taken a turn off topic! 🤣😆🤣

Regarding Ivermectin, it’s obvious idiots are misquoting studies. It’s not a cure for Covid, it’s being used to minimize the effects afterward like nerve regeneration. Ivermectin is for people in third world countries. If you live in the US and Europe and have access to modern healthcare you should be able to cough up enough for newer treatments. Surgeons should be pushing Veklury (Remdesivir) and Paxlovid, they make nearly a million a year and have great health insurance.