MOTS-C is SPICY

[Tomes]

I'll try your suggestions. Thank you! I used 2ml of BAC, maybe next time I'll do 3. Saw one site recommend 4ml and that baffled me. Maybe this is why lol

You could also check the pH, I'm curious if different types of buffers may influence the pH of MOTSC and potentially explain the ISRs.

I used MOTSC this morning with only 1mL to dilute the 10mg (I previously said I was using 3mL) and I got only the smallest sting. I do get a small red reaction (like 1 cm diameter) sometimes, but it goes away in less than an hour. I'm using XYX (the anonymous vendor through the PGB group buy) and haven't tried any other vendors for this pep yet, what is your source?

 

[semisweet]

You could also check the pH, I'm curious if different types of buffers may influence the pH of MOTSC and potentially explain the ISRs.

I used MOTSC this morning with only 1mL to dilute the 10mg (I previously said I was using 3mL) and I got only the smallest sting. I do get a small red reaction (like 1 cm diameter) sometimes, but it goes away in less than an hour. I'm using XYX (the anonymous vendor through the PGB group buy) and haven't tried any other vendors for this pep yet, what is your source?

I purchased mine from Peptide Crafters.

 

[QueenP]

Finished a round of SS-31 and just did my first MOTS-C dose this morning. They need to put a disclaimer on all the guides and protocols that this one has some bite to it! 😂 After specifically searching for "MOTS-C burn" on various forums I saw that this is pretty common. Needless to say, I'll be including that on my searches whenever I look up new peps lol.

Is there a list for "Peps that bite back" anywhere? 😂

 

[QueenP]

You could also check the pH, I'm curious if different types of buffers may influence the pH of MOTSC and potentially explain the ISRs.

I used MOTSC this morning with only 1mL to dilute the 10mg (I previously said I was using 3mL) and I got only the smallest sting. I do get a small red reaction (like 1 cm diameter) sometimes, but it goes away in less than an hour. I'm using XYX (the anonymous vendor through the PGB group buy) and haven't tried any other vendors for this pep yet, what is your source?

The bite is not even the worst part about it. In my experience, it leaves a little lump that takes forever to go away.

 

[HUNTBHAM]

There was a thread where I was talking about my cagri experiences along with a few other folks but it's gone. Not sure what happened to it.

Anyway, I stacked for 9 weeks. Started at .25, then .25 up per week until with minimal effects until I hit 1mg. That dose hit me hard, and I had the worst gastrointestinal side effects from these types of meds to date. Stuck to .75 from that point on, which provided good appetite suppression and minimal gastrointestinal distress. I did eventually notice it was making me very tired though. I'm taking a break from it for a while for that reason.

This was helpful for me. I put cargi with sema and it was way too much. It blocked me up. balance in dosages is very important.

 

[Tomes]

This was helpful for me. I put cargi with sema and it was way too much. It blocked me up. balance in dosages is very important.

I'm now stacking 1.5mg tirz 1x/week with 100mcg cagri 2x/week though I think even this may be too much for me and will drop down to 1x100mcg next week. Cagri is very strong for me. The downside is I will never make it all the way through a vial.

With the MOTSC, I don't have issues with fatigue on this stack.

 

[moonpies4misfits]

Cagri is very strong for me. The downside is I will never make it all the way through a vial.

I just started it and didn't feel much from 300mcg. I'll give it a few weeks though. I do wish more places sold it in 5mg though. Most of what I've seen is 10mg.

 

[AndyPanda]

I'm now stacking 1.5mg tirz 1x/week with 100mcg cagri 2x/week though I think even this may be too much for me and will drop down to 1x100mcg next week. Cagri is very strong for me. The downside is I will never make it all the way through a vial.

With the MOTSC, I don't have issues with fatigue on this stack.

Cagri has a minimum half-life of 6.5 days. You could probably cut that to one dose.

 

[Tomes]

I just started it and didn't feel much from 300mcg. I'll give it a few weeks though. I do wish more places sold it in 5mg though. Most of what I've seen is 10mg.

Ahh as usual, it's all dependent on the researcher. I don't think I'd be able to eat if I took 300mcg at one. Are you stacking or taking it on its own?

I see a lot of 5mg actually, and yet I wish places sold it in 2mg! I'm lobbying vendors to consider this. If you need additional 5mg sources let me know.

 

[Tomes]

Cagri has a minimum half-life of 6.5 days. You could probably cut that to one dose.

Thanks! I'm aware the half life, but I was splitting the dose I wanted to take into two injections, which is fairly common. Now I've learned my target weekly dose should be lower, for now at least!

 

[moonpies4misfits]

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Ahh as usual, it's all dependent on the researcher. I don't think I'd be able to eat if I took 300mcg at one. Are you stacking or taking it on its own?

Stacking with Tirz

 

[Chizikitide-1977]

Has anyone noticed an increase in appetite when taking MOTS-C? It's not a side effect I've seen reported but I do seem to have more of an appetite when cycling on than off.

For more context I've been at 2.5 mg sema weekly and have cycled 4 mg mots-c 4 days on 3 days off per week, 2 weeks on then 2 weeks off.

 

[Tomes]

Has anyone noticed an increase in appetite when taking MOTS-C? It's not a side effect I've seen reported but I do seem to have more of an appetite when cycling on than off.

For more context I've been at 2.5 mg sema weekly and have cycled 4 mg mots-c 4 days on 3 days off per week, 2 weeks on then 2 weeks off.

I haven't personally noticed this. I've been doing 10mg/week for about 6 weeks now, split in 2-3 doses. I'm also currently on 1.5mg tirz and 100mcg cagri per week.

Could it be that you're able to work out more / harder and that may as a result be increasing appetite?

 

[Chizikitide-1977]

I haven't personally noticed this. I've been doing 10mg/week for about 6 weeks now, split in 2-3 doses. I'm also currently on 1.5mg tirz and 100mcg cagri per week.

Could it be that you're able to work out more / harder and that may as a result be increasing appetite?

Thanks for chiming in. That may be a contributing factor, though I've been doing the same bike ride for my regular cardio regardless of the mots-c. Probably has something to do with the effects of sema diminishing after months at the top dose as well.

 

[George Bailey]

Where can I find an effective SS-31 and Mots-C protocol?

 

[Lullabytreehugger]

Finished a round of SS-31 and just did my first MOTS-C dose this morning. They need to put a disclaimer on all the guides and protocols that this one has some bite to it! 😂 After specifically searching for "MOTS-C burn" on various forums I saw that this is pretty common. Needless to say, I'll be including that on my searches whenever I look up new peps lol.

Is there a list for "Peps that bite back" anywhere? 😂

What is the recommended dosage for ss31?

With motsc i used to do 5mg x 3 injections per week. A total weekly dose of 15mgs.

I always got ISR. MotsC always made me sleepy. Not only me but my more mature friend who takes it gets the same sleepy tired feeling afterwards.