My Cagri Chronicle: ongoing updates on progress with cag starting October 2024

[chmuse]

are you taking vitamins or lipo-c? also liquid IV helps me out alot

Only oral vitamins. B-complex, vitamin D, methylfolate, magnesium.

if you are certain about the amount you took, yeah, that is an exceedingly small dose to get very sick on. fwiw i also bought some leftover cagrisema from someone else on here who said it made them throw up a lot, so maybe there's something in there that doesn't agree with some people.

sorry to hear it's bothering you so much. i agree with supertrips that generally electrolytes and vitamin b12 seem to help me ward off side effects but this sounds like something worse than standard side effects

i did note that novo's recent release with trial results showed only like 59% of cagrisema patients stayed on it through the whole trial, but they've been a little shifty about why...

I'm over the worst of it now. It was bad nausea for about three hours but it's settled down now that I've had some crackers and an energy drink.

You haven't had great luck lately. I am so sorry you are sick again.

I appreciate the sentiment. I'm feeling a bit better now. I've always had a weak stomach.

 

[clayd]

this page would not let me copy to clipboard so here's a screenshot.
10% reported allergic reactions but nobody reported serious ones. also looks like it caused some amount of gallstones and notably, half of the patients developed anti-cagri antibodies but it didn't prevent it from working.

I wonder if chmuse is having an immune response

 

[Fisherman2356]

You haven't had great luck lately. I am so sorry you are sick again.

You guys are making it sound like she's been in ICU for last month or so. She perfectly fine, stop being so sorry for her She's a tough girl she can handle it.

 

[chmuse]

this page would not let me copy to clipboard so here's a screenshot.
10% reported allergic reactions but nobody reported serious ones. also looks like it caused some amount of gallstones and notably, half of the patients developed anti-cagri antibodies but it didn't prevent it from working.

I wonder if chmuse is having an immune response

I wonder if it would exacerbate existing gallstones.

 

[chmuse]

You guys are making it sound like she's been in ICU for last month or so. She perfectly fine, stop being so sorry for her She's a tough girl she can handle it.

This is why we're researchers. Sometimes when you research, you discover something new. Like the fact that I'm a weenie.

 

[yelloeyes]

You guys are making it sound like she's been in ICU for last month or so. She perfectly fine, stop being so sorry for her She's a tough girl she can handle it.

Puking for 3 days is not fine... that is definitely not on my bingo card.

 

[yelloeyes]

This is why we're researchers. Sometimes when you research, you discover something new. Like the fact that I'm a weenie.

You definitely aren't... you went back and tried again. I just cannot stand throwing up...

 

[Fisherman2356]

Puking for 3 days

all I can say is OUCH! Yeah, that does not sound much fun. I think I've been blessed (I guess) as have yet to have ANY (and do mean ANY) side effects from peptides. Have tried at least 15 different ones already, and absolutely no side effects, nothing. The only negative I ever got was from MOT-C, it had a bit of sting at injection site, but even that was minor...

 

[chmuse]

all I can say is OUCH! Yeah, that does not sound much fun. I think I've been blessed (I guess) as have yet to have ANY (and do mean ANY) side effects from peptides. Have tried at least 15 different ones already, and absolutely no side effects, nothing. The only negative I ever got was from MOT-C, it had a bit of sting at injection site, but even that was minor...

Aw, you deleted the other comment before I could reply. I can tell you I wasn't down for months on that one.

 

[Fisherman2356]

Aw, you deleted the other comment before I could reply

I chickened out, my banter has gotten me in trouble before, and still may need these boards for expertise in future. Plus, new in here, don't know how tough the mods are.

I can tell you I wasn't down for months on that one.

Could be the reason for your bad reaction to the small one/dose

 

[chmuse]

I chickened out, my banter has gotten me in trouble before, and still may need these boards for expertise in future. Plus, new in here, don't know how tough the mods are.

Could be the reason for your bad reaction to the small one/dose

Bee lets us get away with pretty much anything as long as we aren't political or bigoted. I'm a good sport unless I think you're a misogynist or any kind of -phobe. I found it hilarious.

 

[yelloeyes]

all I can say is OUCH! Yeah, that does not sound much fun. I think I've been blessed (I guess) as have yet to have ANY (and do mean ANY) side effects from peptides. Have tried at least 15 different ones already, and absolutely no side effects, nothing. The only negative I ever got was from MOT-C, it had a bit of sting at injection site, but even that was minor...

Same.. I have been EXTREMELY blessed. I have not had ANY symptoms either and it has been 3 years. Let's hope we didn't just jinx ourselves

 

[TooBigtoFail]

Is it possible to to be allergic to cagri?

Took 1ml of the vial I'd already made (6.46 mg to 3.1ml bac) and added 2ml bac in a pen to make it easier to dose. Did 6u, which is .0415mg. There's NO WAY I should feel this sick with that dose. But maybe I'll break my stall of a month?

Yes, 10% of Novo test subjects reported allergic reactions. Ever wonder if allergic to Benzyl, or the mannitol maybe? Its almost the same volume of Mannitol in a 5mg vial or a 30mg vial, so at low doses from 5mg, you get more sugar. Ever tried just injecting Bac alone? Or Saline Bac?

Symptoms of a benzyl alcohol allergy can include hives, difficulty breathing, and swelling of the face, lips, tongue, or throat.

 

[chmuse]

Yes, 10% of Novo test subjects reported allergic reactions. Ever wonder if allergic to Benzyl, or the mannitol maybe? Its almost the same volume of Mannitol in a 5mg vial or a 30mg vial, so at low doses from 5mg, you get more sugar. Ever tried just injecting Bac alone? Or Saline Bac?

Symptoms of a benzyl alcohol allergy can include hives, difficulty breathing, and swelling of the face, lips, tongue, or throat.

Cagri is my add on to sema, using the same bottle of hospira I used to make the sema.

I did .125mg cagri the first time and was physically ill for a few days. I did .0415mg cagri this time and had nausea a few hours in, for a few hours, which then faded. I'm okay now.

 

[chmuse]

What is the smallest dose of Cagri you’ve taken before without the sick reaction? I was planning on starting with .025mg, but I’ve heard to start with .00125mg from some sources.

I think your numbers are off unless I wildly miscalculated. I saw starting numbers at .1-.3, so I did .125 for my dosing. If .025 is a good starting dose, buying a 5mg kit is WILD.

 

[Sunflower]

Cagri is my add on to sema, using the same bottle of hospira I used to make the sema.

I did .125mg cagri the first time and was physically ill for a few days. I did .0415mg cagri this time and had nausea a few hours in, for a few hours, which then faded. I'm okay now.

I have to take an OTC anti nausea pill when I microdose LSD (even for 5-10mcg) which helps. Also these peppermint ginger chews ward off nausea and are a nice refreshing treat after dinner.

 

[Sunflower]

I think your numbers are off unless I wildly miscalculated. I saw starting numbers at .1-.3, so I did .125 for my dosing. If .025 is a good starting dose, buying a 5mg kit is WILD.

Yep, I missed your follow up comment with your starting doses and then realized my shit math and deleted. It is kind of a mystery for you as to whether the severe reaction is due to an allergy or a sensitivity to the cagri reaching a certain level in your blood. I wonder if it would be different with the sema completely out of your system, but that’s a risk that may not be worth the experiment.

I’ve gotta sharpen my math skills to better estimate when most of my residual Tirz and Reta will be out of my system before starting Cagri. I know that’s not necessarily a big deal, but I’m curious how it feels on its own.

 

[chmuse]

Yep, I missed your follow up comment with your starting doses and then realized my shit math and deleted. It is kind of a mystery for you as to whether the severe reaction is due to an allergy or a sensitivity to the cagri reaching a certain level in your blood. I wonder if it would be different with the sema completely out of your system, but that’s a risk that may not be worth the experiment.

I’ve gotta sharpen my math skills to better estimate when most of my residual Tirz and Reta will be out of my system before starting Cagri. I know that’s not necessarily a big deal, but I’m curious how it feels on its own.

I took my first dose 1/21 and was ill, then my second dose was today 2/6 (had to gather courage and wanted it 100% out of my system to try again) shortly after midnight. When I woke up I had nausea for a few hours (but was not physically ill)- it had faded most of the way by lunch, and it's now 9:30 pm and I'm still good. I have not needed to take a break from sema.

 

[Fisherman2356]

it has been 3 years

Three years of what? You been doing this shit for three years and I just started it three months ago? Dang I'm late to the party. oh well better late than never. too bad @chmuse is a weenie and can't keep up

 

[clayd]

first week going up to 15mg tirz, also pinned 1mg cagri on the same day this time, very effective this time, was low-key nauseated/disinterested in food for a couple days but not bad. was going to add another 0.5mg cagri on thurs or friday but i haven't needed to yet.

new low weight this morning, 1.5 pounds away from my february goal so i should be easily able to get there. 7.5 pounds from my overall goal but i think that will need to be adjusted.