My first pins of testosterone!

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I had another post up asking to be talked in or out of it. And so many guys my my age ( 50's ) say it will make me feel better, and at this point I need that.

I ordered larger guage syringes but got the wrong ones, and glad that happened now! Will explain in a minute.

I have had bloods done recently, tests in the morning both times shooting in the 200s. Dr. said thats not good enough. Dunno if its an insurance thing, or my dr doesnt like it but whatever.

I got my own. Not through a trt clinic, and I know i will need bloodwork again once I trash my natural test in the next 6 or 8 weeks and will absolutely get with a clinic or at the very least quest blood tests to see where im at and to see how I feel by then.

Starting at 100 a week for the time being, needles were wrong ( I ordered easy touch 29g and got some chinese brand instead nope nope nope ) so I had to make do with my 31g insulin pins.

Well no problems at all! On reddit some genius has a great idea for drawing the warmed up test using a needle cap. It worked amazing!

Decided on 100mg per week, and opted for 3 pins my first week which would only be 13 units each. Was super worried about the dreaded oil lump, or pain like I had with klow. Nothing. Pinned another 13 today and in a few days will pin another 13. If no issues next week will just split the dose and do it twice a week or every 3.5 days.

My stack is now tesa 5 on 2 off, tirz/reta each once a week and Testosterone.

Im super excited to recomp my body, lose my last bit of weight and spend the summer swimming and camping. Just picked up an old low miles 08 crv exl and picked up a roof rack and electric bike carrier for it. Last summer I was the fattest fuck in the room, this summer will be much, much different.
 

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Get a copy of your before labs from the other doctor so you can hopefully use them at the TRT Dr... TRT Nation will accept customer provided labs and that baseline will make getting a legal script easier. They'll require additional labs at 8 weeks, 6 months, and 1 year. (If you decide to get a Rx)
 
I skipped the last paragraph and assumed that you were using the car dash to warm your cyp. I'm a bad internet friend.
 
woundcarping said:
Get a copy of your before labs from the other doctor so you can hopefully use them at the TRT Dr... TRT Nation will accept customer provided labs and that baseline will make getting a legal script easier. They'll require additional labs at 8 weeks, 6 months, and 1 year. (If you decide to get a Rx)
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great job, proud of you .
 
At 1 year in on the DIY TRT and definitely have seen many benefits.
I was testing every 60 days and have adjusted a few times but have been fortunate in not having to take AI as my estradiol has leveled out to a mid range without ever going above.
I did have some slight hematocrit increase been have been focusing on hydrating to bring that back down.

I started higher on Test E, but have gone down and will see if i need further adjustment after next test. currently 162 total per week with HCG at 250iu 2x per week.

You will likely add weight and have increased hunger, but it should be good composition as opposed to belly....

Test often

I have used Fitomics for the last year, but am looking at goodlabs as possibly a better option.

here is my standard:
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Tried subQ in belly had welts, decided on 31g in Delts with very little fat, not sure if 5/16 is getting to far in, so might be hybrid of subq/im, but i press it right into delt muscle and have had No ISR since starting that way.
 
Skidude said:
At 1 year in on the DIY TRT and definitely have seen many benefits.
I was testing every 60 days and have adjusted a few times but have been fortunate in not having to take AI as my estradiol has leveled out to a mid range without ever going above.
I did have some slight hematocrit increase been have been focusing on hydrating to bring that back down.

I started higher on Test E, but have gone down and will see if i need further adjustment after next test. currently 162 total per week with HCG at 250iu 2x per week.

You will likely add weight and have increased hunger, but it should be good composition as opposed to belly....

Test often

I have used Fitomics for the last year, but am looking at goodlabs as possibly a better option.

here is my standard:
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EDIT:
Tried subQ in belly had welts, decided on 31g in Delts with very little fat, not sure if 5/16 is getting to far in, so might be hybrid of subq/im, but i press it right into delt muscle and have had No ISR since starting that way.
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Once again SUPER HELPFUL!
Also considering goodlabs hadn't heard of fitomics ty again!!!!
 
Gr33dyOctopus said:
I had another post up asking to be talked in or out of it. And so many guys my my age ( 50's ) say it will make me feel better, and at this point I need that.

I ordered larger guage syringes but got the wrong ones, and glad that happened now! Will explain in a minute.

I have had bloods done recently, tests in the morning both times shooting in the 200s. Dr. said thats not good enough. Dunno if its an insurance thing, or my dr doesnt like it but whatever.

I got my own. Not through a trt clinic, and I know i will need bloodwork again once I trash my natural test in the next 6 or 8 weeks and will absolutely get with a clinic or at the very least quest blood tests to see where im at and to see how I feel by then.

Starting at 100 a week for the time being, needles were wrong ( I ordered easy touch 29g and got some chinese brand instead nope nope nope ) so I had to make do with my 31g insulin pins.

Well no problems at all! On reddit some genius has a great idea for drawing the warmed up test using a needle cap. It worked amazing!

Decided on 100mg per week, and opted for 3 pins my first week which would only be 13 units each. Was super worried about the dreaded oil lump, or pain like I had with klow. Nothing. Pinned another 13 today and in a few days will pin another 13. If no issues next week will just split the dose and do it twice a week or every 3.5 days.

My stack is now tesa 5 on 2 off, tirz/reta each once a week and Testosterone.

Im super excited to recomp my body, lose my last bit of weight and spend the summer swimming and camping. Just picked up an old low miles 08 crv exl and picked up a roof rack and electric bike carrier for it. Last summer I was the fattest fuck in the room, this summer will be much, much different.
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How are you preventing estrogen creating bad results? Self dosing testosterone isn't like self dosing peptides, hormones are a whole different kettle of fish. Hopefully you don't grow yourself a Sydney Sweeney chesticle rack to go with your new found svelteness.
Stay aware, stay sane, and watch for side effects.
🙏🙏🫡
 
You guys are speaking my language. I'm on the fence about starting a glp or trt first. That and i'm not sure about the best place to get labs done in Canada. Do you know if fitomics, goodlabs, etc have local subs or are they shipping samples all over the US?
 
islandtime50 said:
You guys are speaking my language. I'm on the fence about starting a glp or trt first. That and i'm not sure about the best place to get labs done in Canada. Do you know if fitomics, goodlabs, etc have local subs or are they shipping samples all over the US?
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They contract through Quest and Labcorp so may have Canada presence? I am unsure.
Keep in mind the higher your fat% the more potential issues with estradiol, I personally waited until I hit goal BMI.
If you do go that route test a lot and read a lot before starting as there are many potential issues and it is a long term marathon not a sprint.
 
LabRatts said:
How are you preventing estrogen creating bad results? Self dosing testosterone isn't like self dosing peptides, hormones are a whole different kettle of fish. Hopefully you don't grow yourself a Sydney Sweeney chesticle rack to go with your new found svelteness.
Stay aware, stay sane, and watch for side effects.
🙏🙏🫡
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Man, I hate to use reddit as a source, in fact normally.laugh right in the face of those fuckers! But a ton of them are self guiding this stuff...

Maybe I am making a mistake. Should I just stop now and join up with one of the clinics? I can afford it, just didnt think I needed to right away.

Ive got an a cup rack on me now, last thing I need is a Sidney Sweeney rack.
What is your advice?
 
Especially with just starting, it may not be a bad idea to get with a telemed clinic to oversee until you can get your dose dialed in. I'm currently using TRT Nation and they provide an AI, with instructions not to use unless my E2 is elevated or I start to have symptoms. I haven't needed it, but its nice to have just in case. They will take old labs up to 120 days ago, I believe, so you should be able to use your old labs assuming they are the minimum they require (i.e., total testosterone, estradiol (E2), CBC, PSA, and CMP).

It can take a bit to get your dose dialed in, especially if you are still losing weight. I've been on TRT for 14 years, so self guide my treatment and know what labs to run, when to run them, monitor hemoglobin ever few days at home, donate blood if I creep too high, etc. Essentially, I use the clinic as a means to order compound test vs going ugl. If I was starting today, I'd like the support of a clinic while getting things dialed in, but everyone is different.
 
LabRatts said:
How are you preventing estrogen creating bad results? Self dosing testosterone isn't like self dosing peptides, hormones are a whole different kettle of fish. Hopefully you don't grow yourself a Sydney Sweeney chesticle rack to go with your new found svelteness.
Stay aware, stay sane, and watch for side effects.
🙏🙏🫡
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Estrogen isn't a given problem, like most things it's relatively based on the patient. I haven't had estrogen problems taking 120-180mg/week splitting it 3x and pinning SQ.


islandtime50 said:
You guys are speaking my language. I'm on the fence about starting a glp or trt first. That and i'm not sure about the best place to get labs done in Canada. Do you know if fitomics, goodlabs, etc have local subs or are they shipping samples all over the US?
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Do both, GLP to lose weight, TRT to help preserve lean mass along the way. I started GLP on 12/10, TRT on 1/19 due to differences in appointments and shipping. No regerts.
 
RetCurious said:
The BA on the label threw me, TY.
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Multi-use vials contain BA as a preservative. There are also 1ml ampules and vials that are intended for single use that may not have the BA (though in my experience, most still so).
 
Im really excited to hear your feedback on this Gr33dy! I'm low 300 and my Dr won't even bother giving me bloodtests, they just dont want to deal with male hormones. But the moment im over 200 for cholesterol, they'll shove torostatin down your throat and act like you got months to live.
 
Just some info if you don't want to handle it yourself, I pay like $30 for 90 days of TRT ( 12 vials single use ) from amazon pharmacy. Like $10 a year for Anastrozole all through my regular doctor. I don't think you need a clinic just someone to check your labs and adjust.

I also had the option to go through a compound pharmacy if the cottonseed oil bothered me but it never has.

And I have an absolute stock pile of 31g needles now hah. That were basically free.
 
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Gr33dyOctopus said:
I had another post up asking to be talked in or out of it. And so many guys my my age ( 50's ) say it will make me feel better, and at this point I need that.

I ordered larger guage syringes but got the wrong ones, and glad that happened now! Will explain in a minute.

I have had bloods done recently, tests in the morning both times shooting in the 200s. Dr. said thats not good enough. Dunno if its an insurance thing, or my dr doesnt like it but whatever.

I got my own. Not through a trt clinic, and I know i will need bloodwork again once I trash my natural test in the next 6 or 8 weeks and will absolutely get with a clinic or at the very least quest blood tests to see where im at and to see how I feel by then.

Starting at 100 a week for the time being, needles were wrong ( I ordered easy touch 29g and got some chinese brand instead nope nope nope ) so I had to make do with my 31g insulin pins.

Well no problems at all! On reddit some genius has a great idea for drawing the warmed up test using a needle cap. It worked amazing!

Decided on 100mg per week, and opted for 3 pins my first week which would only be 13 units each. Was super worried about the dreaded oil lump, or pain like I had with klow. Nothing. Pinned another 13 today and in a few days will pin another 13. If no issues next week will just split the dose and do it twice a week or every 3.5 days.

My stack is now tesa 5 on 2 off, tirz/reta each once a week and Testosterone.

Im super excited to recomp my body, lose my last bit of weight and spend the summer swimming and camping. Just picked up an old low miles 08 crv exl and picked up a roof rack and electric bike carrier for it. Last summer I was the fattest fuck in the room, this summer will be much, much different.
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Seen people taking hcg to maintain testi function. Then pct if they are cycling.

Feel any better? Ive bounced around the idea of jumping off the porch but until i drop below average ill just be jealous from outside the club. Haha. I can tell from the hands you arent exactly "the fattest f*ck in the room" anymore. Congrats though. Have fun and be safe!
 
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