Needle size for SubQ injections - help!

[RENjutsu]

Hi all, I have been taking retatrutide for a few weeks and I had the effects (atleast the weight loss mainly) (hard to say if it was mainly from the hard work put in though) I have now purchased from a supplier here, I was using 13mm needles and now I have some 12.7mm ones (the ones supplied from UK pharmacies) I was wondering if these are too large/long - I know a lot of people use 8mm, could I just choose not to insert the whole needle? Or what angle would be best, I do have a decent amount of belly fat so I believe angled the 12.7mm should work - just wondering if any advice ! Thanks

 

[rettta]

I use 12.7mm x29 gauge insulin syringes. They are tiny and you barely feel them.

 

[RENjutsu]

I use 12.7mm x29 gauge insulin syringes. They are tiny and you barely feel them.

I'm not too worried about feeling them, more so that I am injecting correctly, not hitting intramuscular etc - I know with for example 4-8mm you just directly inject with no need to think angles etc

 

[WLBLD]

If you want them tiny, pens needles are the smallest. 4mm 32g are small & thin if that's what you're looking for

 

[RENjutsu]

If you want them tiny, pens needles are the smallest. 4mm 32g are small & thin if that's what you're looking for

I don't mind them being the size I mentioned, more so if from experience this is consistently viable, angling, ensuring SubQ is hit, I'm concerned about going too deep etc

 

[nitetrak]

I use either 6mm or 4mm 32g or 31g, whatever is cheaper when I go to buy it. For both pen and syringe.

 

[HereKittyKitty]

I use an 8mm. Just got some 6mm to try.

 

[nitetrak]

I don't mind them being the size I mentioned, more so if from experience this is consistently viable, angling, ensuring SubQ is hit, I'm concerned about going too deep etc

Not too long as long as you pinch the skin, I think that is the size of my Rx Humira pre-filled syringe subq

 

[diplomat]

I use either 6mm or 4mm 32g or 31g, whatever is cheaper when I go to buy it. For both pen and syringe.

Yes, 4mm or 6mm are standard for pens.
So of course I use 5mm...😛

 

[WLBLD]

I don't mind them being the size I mentioned, more so if from experience this is consistently viable, angling, ensuring SubQ is hit, I'm concerned about going too deep etc

If it's not too deep now you can always go smaller as u keep going down & don't have as much thickness? Maybe try to not go as deep if you can't find shorter

 

[myboysherman]

6mm and sometimes 8mm. No need for angles with those, just pinch and go. Sometimes I get a drip out of the site after using 6mm, not yet with 8mm but I don't have a ton of experience. I keep the concentrations high enough that I am usually injecting 15 units or less, but when I get over 20 units I go for the 8mm.

( I base these guidelines on whimsy. )

 

[Jfrick11]

A 12.7 mm needle isn’t too long if you have enough belly fat, but it does require good technique. For subcutaneous injections:

Use a 45° angle and pinch the skin to stay in the fatty layer

Avoid partially inserting the needle,

Shorter needles (6–8 mm) are usually easier and more comfortable, but yours can still work safely.

 

[RubbaDubba1]

Hi all, I have been taking retatrutide for a few weeks and I had the effects (atleast the weight loss mainly) (hard to say if it was mainly from the hard work put in though) I have now purchased from a supplier here, I was using 13mm needles and now I have some 12.7mm ones (the ones supplied from UK pharmacies) I was wondering if these are too large/long - I know a lot of people use 8mm, could I just choose not to insert the whole needle? Or what angle would be best, I do have a decent amount of belly fat so I believe angled the 12.7mm should work - just wondering if any advice ! Thanks

I use the 12.7mm 29/30 gauge needles as well. I mainly do the longer ones, because it's easier to get the last of the peps outta that 3ml bottle. But, I do pinch the skin, 45 degree angle and just inject about 1/2 - 2/3 of the way, to stay in the Sub-q layer for the injection.

 

[deluge]

If you want them tiny, pens needles are the smallest. 4mm 32g are small & thin if that's what you're looking for

I know it's a bit off the topic here, but pen needles rock! I've been using pens for a month but today I switched back to a 29ga insulin needle to grab the last bit out of a vial. Friggin' needle bounced off my skin! Had to stab a 2nd time, more aggressively, to actually penetrate.

I suppose the dulling of stabbing thru the rubber stopper, combined with the larger gauge needle caused this, but wow!

 

[nitetrak]

Friggin' needle bounced off my skin! Had to stab a 2nd time, more aggressively, to actually penetrate.

This is exactly what sometimes happens to me with my Rx pre-filled syringes. I've been using them every other week for 20+ years now. Sometimes I try a spot and it won't go in so I move it over an inch and it's good. Never had an issue with my 31-32ga sryinges for GLP-1.

 

[leeann82]

I'm currently using 5mm 31g pen tips. I LOVE LOVE LOVE pens!! I was previously using 8mm syringes, but I really had to stab them in as they dulled after pulling my peps from the vials. I love the less waste too with the pen tips. I just use the syringes now for re-con and filling my pen vials

 

[WLBLD]

I know it's a bit off the topic here, but pen needles rock! I've been using pens for a month but today I switched back to a 29ga insulin needle to grab the last bit out of a vial. Friggin' needle bounced off my skin! Had to stab a 2nd time, more aggressively, to actually penetrate.

I suppose the dulling of stabbing thru the rubber stopper, combined with the larger gauge needle caused this, but wow!

Same I don't want to try anything else. Love how small they are.

 

[Vash]

Hi all, I have been taking retatrutide for a few weeks and I had the effects (atleast the weight loss mainly) (hard to say if it was mainly from the hard work put in though) I have now purchased from a supplier here, I was using 13mm needles and now I have some 12.7mm ones (the ones supplied from UK pharmacies) I was wondering if these are too large/long - I know a lot of people use 8mm, could I just choose not to insert the whole needle? Or what angle would be best, I do have a decent amount of belly fat so I believe angled the 12.7mm should work - just wondering if any advice ! Thanks

12.7mm work great. Pinch an inch and jab it straight in.

 

[Calm Logic]

The 32G and even 31G needles can make it harder to get solution in the syringe.

For non-spicy peps, I don't like anything longer than 8 mm for subq. Some people like the longer ones for "deep subq" for spicy peps.

6-mm syringes and 6-mm pen needles are my favorite, but I haven't made my own pens yet.

 

[CNCCurrency]

I'm not too worried about feeling them, more so that I am injecting correctly, not hitting intramuscular etc - I know with for example 4-8mm you just directly inject with no need to think angles etc

Pinching your skin should help with the hitting a muscle worry

 

[Mr. Blonde]

31g 8mm. These are the best for sub q in my experience.

 

[spyke65]

I’ve used 12.7, 8 and 6mm. My preference is 31g 6mm for most peps, but all three worked ok. I use 12.7mm syringes for KLOW to minimize ISR.

 

[gimmeshelter]

ok ok noob questions , really confirmation. Went to buy syringes yesterday. They are not on the shelf but are legal to buy in USA North Carolina. One CVS looked at me like was a dr** addi**, The other one was slightly confused but did sell me the following size.

Please confirm these are fine for reta if ya don't mind w a 90 degree straight in jab of pinched stomach fat .
1/2ml 31g 6m. Cannot believe how tiny the needle is. first jab is today.

 

[BNLFL]

I'm not too worried about feeling them, more so that I am injecting correctly, not hitting intramuscular etc - I know with for example 4-8mm you just directly inject with no need to think angles etc

I pinch a little and go straight in, no angles.

I use an 8mm. Just got some 6mm to try.

Curious on the 6mm, let me know.

ok ok noob questions , really confirmation. Went to buy syringes yesterday. They are not on the shelf but are legal to buy in USA North Carolina. One CVS looked at me like was a dr** addi**, The other one was slightly confused but did sell me the following size.

Please confirm these are fine for reta if ya don't mind w a 90 degree straight in jab of pinched stomach fat .
1/2ml 31g 6m. Cannot believe how tiny the needle is. first jab is today.

Those are fine. How many mg are doing?
31g are great, but as @Calm Logic mentioned it can be hard drawing out of the vials to fill the syringe, and it's not vial vacuum. I found this out when I just tried these 2 pins ago. I thought it was me. Letting the vials sit at room temp for a bit seems to help. I have a couple of hundred, so I'll get used to it, just a few seconds longer. My 30g was way easier to fill.

 

[gimmeshelter]

I pinch a little and go straight in, no angles.


Curious on the 6mm, let me know.

Those are fine. How many mg are doing?
31g are great, but as @Calm Logic mentioned it can be hard drawing out of the vials to fill the syringe, and it's not vial vacuum. I found this out when I just tried these 2 pins ago. I thought it was me. Letting the vials sit at room temp for a bit seems to help. I have a couple of hundred, so I'll get used to it, just a few seconds longer. My 30g was way easier to fill.

ya so to walk thru it all so someone can tell me " ahh hell no don't do that " I'm adding 1ml bac to r10 to reconstitute so that is 2 syringe fulls - 50ml syringes .5ml
or....
I guess I could do 4 fills at 50ml (200ml) and then 10ml would equal .5mg reta vs 1.0. ( my first dose will be .5mg)
Which do u think is easier.

I plan .5mg this week then 1.0mg next week for 2 weeks and see how I feel.....

 

[Occindemure]

31G/8MM are all I have tried
Pinch works fine, but I have been experimenting with not pinching and going in at an angle in the buttocks.
GHK Is real spicy for me, as is Tesa so I am trying to mitigate that a bit using butt fat.
The few Tesa pins I have tried in the glute have been great, with no pinch and no pain.
Once my next set of KLOW comes in I will also try it this way.

 

[BNLFL]

ya so to walk thru it all so someone can tell me " ahh hell no don't do that " I'm adding 1ml bac to r10 to reconstitute so that is 2 syringe fulls - 50ml syringes .5ml
or....
I guess I could do 4 fills at 50ml (200ml) and then 10ml would equal .5mg reta vs 1.0. ( my first dose will be .5mg)
Which do u think is easier.

I plan .5mg this week then 1.0mg next week for 2 weeks and see how I feel.....

No 1ml syringes?

 

[gimmeshelter]

No 1ml syringes?

it is what the drug store gave me yesaterday
so no, not right now.

 

[gimmeshelter]

No 1ml syringes?

ya def gonna get a larger syringe for re constitution, that was a pain. took 6-8 min to re constitute just gonna assume that is normal. Onward !

 

[BNLFL]

it is what the drug store gave me yesaterday
so no, not right now.

You need to peak on-line. I personally like Easy Touch or BD, now Embeca. Injection Shop here in the Vendor section has ET decent pricing and a member discount.