newbie q: how do you evaluate / choose vendors?

Would you look at that? They literally just removed my red banner. And yeah that’s exactly who.

I’m curious what you meant “they don’t test”
Like that vendor doesn’t test I know that that’s why I like. I’m getting into group test. Or I guess I will be once my batch comes in.
They don't test and don't have test groups. You'll get a batch # when you get your stuff, You can usually find the COA on STG after a while. There's also a spreadsheet with test results for them along with others. I just got 4kits that are recent fills that there are groups for already on STG. I'll just wait and see if I can find, because some of the groups won't give the result. I've got a bunch for them and never had a issues. What did you order?
Every time I find a vendor that accepts Allibaba or PayPal, some buyer comes along and ruins it. Then I may resort to participating in a group buy since you can normally CashApp or Zelle the person that’s over the Group Buy.
I've noticed a lot of the GB organizers are shutting off PP and crypto the only option towards the end, so it makes it easier for them to turn everything into crypto to pay the supplier. They also shutdown invites and new members if they have a big GB coming up, so the vultures/newbs don't just come into buy. Especially ones with a purchase limit total they can sell.
 
By checking reviews , how many people they have in their channels . But we have to know that is luck to find some good vendors.
 
They don't test and don't have test groups. You'll get a batch # when you get your stuff, You can usually find the COA on STG after a while. There's also a spreadsheet with test results for them along with others. I just got 4kits that are recent fills that there are groups for already on STG. I'll just wait and see if I can find, because some of the groups won't give the result. I've got a bunch for them and never had a issues. What did you order?

I've noticed a lot of the GB organizers are shutting off PP and crypto the only option towards the end, so it makes it easier for them to turn everything into crypto to pay the supplier. They also shutdown invites and new members if they have a big GB coming up, so the vultures/newbs don't just come into buy. Especially ones with a purchase limit total they can sell.
T30 and R20
 
STG does have a good crypto tutorial, I'm just worried about screwing it up. Is PYUSD still too much of a limitation, should I actually figure out Coinbase or Solana or um .. whatever else?
When working with a new vendor request to send $1 to ensure proper transfer of funds. Many vendors are willing to walk new clients through crypto exchange. However, it is still important to at least have a basic foundation of crypto trading to ensure you are not getting scammed. Always remain skeptical of these vendors regardless of the amount of times you've purchased from them. Hope this helps!
 
Also check out the Has anybody heard of thread under The Research Lab category on here. Some vendors that people have had not so good experiences with have been outed there.
 
Ahh... So I see that only @birdwhacker and I are the only ones who KNOW know the vendors who take PayPal, Zelle, Cashapp, Venmo, etc and not just crypto. 😉

I mean yeah, they're mostly US vendors on TG BUT!!! You'd be surprised on the prices, availability (especially if you're in the US) and the variety of products you can get using those payment services. They have group buys that you can pay through Venmo, Credit Card, Zelle, Cashapp, PayPal, etc and those group buys usually have really really great prices.

Again, they may not completely match the pricing system of Chinese wholesalers, BUT what you DO get is MOST of the Group Buys comes with 4 testings; mass, purity, endos and sterility - the quadnity (trinity + 1 🤔🤣).

The problem with Chinese wholesalers is that some of their testings are edited and most only contain mass and purity. There's been a huge ordeal regarding many vendors from China failing sterility and/or endo tests.

Do we want those products inside our system? No.
So I'd rather pay a little more from the US vendor but with a peace of mind knowing the products I get pass all tests through the gold standard, Janoshik.

Everyone who's commented here is also correct BUT I want to warn you about crypto.
If you constantly make payments to foreign accounts through coinbase especially, there's a higher chance of your account getting banned. Other systems can potentially ban you as well.

Not only that, if you start buying many products at one time and the CN Wholesaler isn't careful, not only will your packages not arrive, but they'll get seized by customs and ** this is what I heard from others** you'll be put on the "watch travel list". So if you ever try travelling outside of your country, there's a chance they may stop you, interrogate you and......

Now, the chances of that happening is pretty low unless you buy a bunch of kits every week... But still, gotta be mindful of every action you take because remember, most peptides are grey (not illegal, but also not legal) and unfortunately, many "agents" see peptides or vials containing white powders as "drugs" and there's no other way around it...

But yeah, learn to use crypto anyways. 🤣🤣🤣 It IS important to understand the mechanics behind crypto and there will always be a group buy or promotion or sale that a vendor may have that the prices are just too good to pass....

Whoever wants to know these group(s) on TG, LIKE this comment 🥷then DM me. I'll steer you in the right direction!
 
@lessthanhalf @Grogu @BNLFL @anhydrous --- This is what I love about these forums. Most forums especially the meso are full of toxicity and trolling and chaos. But this one? I love how everyone is so helpful, especially coming from some of the OG's (the ones I mentioned above).

Almost cried for a second...
 
Where do I find the current STG Discord? I’ve tried everything
 
I’m going to repeat what has been stated here. The PayPal thing is going to be a tough one. I felt similarly when I first was looking and honestly it was easier to figure crypto out than to find pretty much any decent PayPal vendors. I like knowing how to do crypto also because let’s say you find a vendor and you buy from them, then they disappear or stop using PayPal. Now you’re forced to learn. They are out there but some of the best vendors you’ll be missing out on. I think I have a good idea of the vendors out there and it would take me a while to find one that fits your criteria! I recommend buy crypto on Robinhood and using exodus as the wallet. Google each step. Practice by sending converting etc just $5. Once you learn it you’ll have access to dozens of vendors! Good luck and welcome!
 
Another thing is sometimes there are incredible deals. You might really see one you want to take and not know how to use crypto! Just a thought 🙂
 
I’m going to repeat what has been stated here. The PayPal thing is going to be a tough one. I felt similarly when I first was looking and honestly it was easier to figure crypto out than to find pretty much any decent PayPal vendors. I like knowing how to do crypto also because let’s say you find a vendor and you buy from them, then they disappear or stop using PayPal. Now you’re forced to learn. They are out there but some of the best vendors you’ll be missing out on. I think I have a good idea of the vendors out there and it would take me a while to find one that fits your criteria! I recommend buy crypto on Robinhood and using exodus as the wallet. Google each step. Practice by sending converting etc just $5. Once you learn it you’ll have access to dozens of vendors! Good luck and welcome!
I've been lucky with PP. A bunch of my GB have it, but stop taking it towards the end. They need to convert everything to crypto to pay the supplier. With all the stuff I have, I've never used it.
 
I agree with learning crypto. You will get the hang of it once you do it a few times. A lot of group buys let you use PayPal or Zelle or one of the many others but at a 5-7% markup, sometimes more. Crypto is just too easy to learn to be spending that extra money when you don't have to.
 
I'll send you a bill. 🤣 Where in Oregon? My wife has family in Lincoln City on the coast. Awesome area. I've been 4 or 5 times. That flight sucks ass from here though.
I’m in Lincoln City almost every month visiting the coast.
 
Everyone who's commented here is also correct BUT I want to warn you about crypto.
If you constantly make payments to foreign accounts through coinbase especially, there's a higher chance of your account getting banned.

There are many many threads here warning people not to send crypto to their vendor from Coinbase or any other exchange.
First send the crypto to a separate, non-exchange (self-custody) wallet, such as Exodus to have a stopgap between.

But yeah, learn to use crypto anyways. 🤣🤣🤣 It IS important to understand the mechanics behind crypto
Spend the time reading the guides here at the Crypto Corner. Learn the difference between an Exchange and a (self-custody) wallet.
 

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