So_krispy69
GLP-1 Apprentice
I saw this and was confused also
Nexaph T30 Failed Sterility (T30 pre sale Christmas batch)
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So_krispy69
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Im new to this and was going to place a order on that site and trying to learn as much about that particular site and where
to find their pre sales and telegram info due to none of that info being mentioned on that site
Nexaph is a good site for newb's like me, or those uncomfortable with crypto. If you wait for their pre-order sales they are [almost] comparable to the pricing for the direct-from-china folks. No worries about Customs or getting your Global Entry or security clearance revoked, if that's a concern too.
The lesson I learned from this thread is we really all should be filtering. None of these suppliers are exempt from these kinds of issues.
I've stepped up my game. Pitched the Amazon BAC water. Bought Hospira from InjectionShop, Filters and needles from Biologix, sterile vials from Walmart (of all places!). It all costs, but way less than the 'tides do, and amortized out it's like an additional $1 a week, maybe less.
This thread was a wake-up call to me. I'm glad I read it.
peppystrings80
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Ok so next question, if I am the only person who is concerned about the sterility fail and don't want to use it, is it bad form to try and sell it since there are at least 3 people in this thread alone who are making fun of my concerns?
BNLFL
GLP-1 Specialist
I'd say if you're upfront about the issue, it'd be fine to sell it. Or contact Nexaph and see if they'll exchange it.
I'd buy it if I was closer, and used 30 or 40mg bottles. (I use Nexaph in the 60mg).
Contact Cain @ Nexaph. I haven't bought from him in years but he used to be very good about replacements..
peppystrings80
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Thanks to everyone for your responses, I appreciate it. I did reach out to Cain and he told me that sterility was not guaranteed, and that I should use a filter. It was pretty disappointing, but I guess now I know I should just stick with Chinese vendors and pay for my own testing if I want. No need to pay more for Nexaph, more for testing, and then have no recourse when multiple tests show failures.
Wow. I would have expected better with a specific concern like Staph. That's pretty serious.
BNLFL
GLP-1 Specialist
I heard he overfills a little, but never bought there. I was kinda waiting for some pre-sales I've heard about. We'll see what comes about here.
Why is that? After all, they have the same guarantees as all the other vendors in this space.
peppystrings80
GLP-1 Apprentice
I guess I would have hoped that he would have a little bit of integrity, because up until now, I have seen a lot of evidence that he cares about the products he sells. The fact that he made an enormous batch of tainted T and isn't at all concerned about safety is disappointing. I know I'm probably not going to get really sick, but I also don't want an itchy rash where I inject, and I don't really want to knowingly inject myself with staph and hope the filter catches anything harmful. I don't expect anything from anyone, but I can hope that a business owner would do the right thing, and if not, then I will spread the word and buy my supplies elsewhere.
RetCurious
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Seriously? You have the presumption of quality when buying medical grade product to inject. When the facts change, I change my mind. That's why.
Well said.
So_krispy69
GLP-1 Apprentice
Is it only the t30 that failed the test ? If i was to but reta 10 from him is that good to go? Or is everything he made at that time no good
There are plenty of groups that do testing that you can join and the cost of the testing is way cheaper when you join the groups.
peppystrings80
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I've found a few of those groups now, thanks! I knew there had to be some like minded folks about this.
lauranyc77
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Hey, can you send me direct link to Biologix products you bought? I tried t find stuff their but a bit confused. Want to start filtering the Easter batch I have from last year from Nexaph. Feel free to pm. I am assuming Walmart was a 3rd party seller
Twowheelr2
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I am currently using a batch of MOTSc that also failed sterility. (Different vendor) I am filtering, for the first time, and have had no problems. IMO, with bacteria, you risk exposure and infection by minor cuts. Bacteria is everywhere. I have the pre-order T30 kit from this vendor and assurance it’s a different batch. However, filtering isn’t that hard and I’ll probably start doing it as a routine now.
Camlbacker
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ocuzuc
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I have always filtered as a "just in case." But actually knowing a batch is NOT sterile has a huge psychological difference here. As this whole point of this is for health, I am leaning on discarding it because --
1) I have a over years' worth in the freezer, even with throw out this batch.
2) I have had a case of cellulitis in the past from an injection, not fun.
3) I will always think, did I do a good enough job filtering when using this batch
So going to throw out the worry by throwing out the product. Yea loss of good money and will also think twice before a re-order from them now. But luckily don't have to worry for a bit. But since they only sell research chemicals, not for human consumption, why would you need it to be sterile? 😉 Yea, reality not so humorous.
peppystrings80
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I've found a few of those groups now, thanks!! I knew there had to be some like minded folks about this.
Exactly, exactly this. I already filter. But I filter things that have passed sterility tests. I have also gotten cellulitis from an insect bite, and it's not fun.
I went digging around on Reddit and found discussions about 30mg and 40mg being bad. Couldn't find anything about Reta10, or Tirz60. I did see in this thread earlier that the T60 tested ok from the same time frame. See below. Chew has the same batch that I do.
I didn’t purchase this batch, but agree with you 100%. I think it would be tough for me to inject something that I knew wasn’t sterile. I’d probably discard it too. I think it’s up to the individual researcher, but this is kind of why I originally posted about the issue, just so people who purchased are aware and can make their own decision.
I was in a T60 independent test group from around this same time and all was good except for endotoxins were a little high, but nothing concerning.
You actually can't tell if the previous batches marked as sterile are really sterile since only about 0.001% of the batch was tested. Those batches (like all other batches from most vendors) most likely all unsterile.
I DM'd you but thought others might like to see these links too, so here they are:
Biologix® 13mm Sterile PES Syringe Filter, 0.22µm, 100/pk
High-throughput Biologix® sterile PES syringe filters. Ideal for biological fluid filtration. >98.5% protein recovery. Multiple diameters. Shop now!
https://injectionshop.com/sol-ba-diluent-30ml.html/. The Hospira BAC water for $10/vial
https://injectionshop.com/ndl-bd-pg.html/. The needles.
I went with the 25g x 1" needles. I'm not sure why but I got my luer needles attached to 3ml syringes, not what the link was for. Guessing some newb in the shipping department? Either way, bonus! 3ml syringes with the correct needles work fine for our 3ml pep vials.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sterile-...s-Sterile-Package-Clear-3ml-10pcs/15181673370. The vials. Yes, 3rd party. I was bummed when they showed shipping from SHEUNG WAN, CW. But then I looked and that's not China, that's Hong Kong. I'll take Hong Kong 10 times out of 10 over China.
ocuzuc
GLP-1 Apprentice
Oh I know. Like I said this is psychological. I filter because I don’t trust any vial to be sterile. Yet when I find out for sure it is NOT sterile, it is now somehow MORE of a problem? Yep. And that worry is a psychological problem that i can eliminate, and move on, as the loss is part of the financial risk in the grey market.
Dunno. I'd say the risk is equal with going into a "sterile vial" that it is to going into a "sterile pen" carpuject.
It's a lot easier to sterilize an empty vial than one full of lyophilized powder, for what that's worth... Either one's bound to be an improvement!
