Nexaph vial foreign objects?

[catdog]

Hello all,

I know many here are SNP customers. I’ve noticed a bit of an uptick in people finding random shit in their vials/on their pucks. Just today a couple members pointed out specks of black or some foreign matter in their vials.

I will attach here what was said/found. I know Cain deals with these very well, but I question what their lab processes are and how clean of a UGL they have.

The most recent instances were from MOTS-C and Reta 12.

 

[catdog]

Oddly/coincidentally both vials are green crimp and black cap.

 

[Super Trips]

You want super sterile buy from Empower
You want descent tirz at a fraction of the price order from cain
I still cant believe people cant expect small issues when ordering dark market stuff
This is the way!

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

You want super sterile buy from Empower
You want descent tirz at a fraction of the price order from cain
I still cant believe people cant expect small issues when ordering dark market stuff
This is the way!

You’re forgetting option C: order from one of the many other underground places that don’t have shit floating around in their vials.

 

[Calm Logic]

So Nexa seems to be in the same sinking boat as SRY now, which had similar issues with rubber pieces or flies or whatever.

SRY is still worse maybe to due to recent underfill issues. But the Nexa advantage of more third-party testing seems less important now, especially when you can get tirz cheap from SSA or a group buy.

 

[catdog]

You want super sterile buy from Empower
You want descent tirz at a fraction of the price order from cain
I still cant believe people cant expect small issues when ordering dark market stuff
This is the way!

Just filter your shit

 

[catdog]

You’re forgetting option C: order from one of the many other underground places that don’t have shit floating around in their vials.

Or just filter your shit haha

 

[Vicki]

Ask for a replacement but keep both and filter it anyway. Its probably more cardboard

 

[catdog]

Ask for a replacement but keep both and filter it anyway. Its probably more cardboard

yep. It’s not mine, just what I saw on their TG

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Or just filter your shit haha

The “just filter your shit” crowd and the “I must pay with PayPal so I can dispute the charge if it takes more than a week” crowd are different people. Only one shops at nexa.

 

[catdog]

The “just filter your shit” crowd and the “I must pay with PayPal so I can dispute the charge if it takes more than a week” crowd are different people. Only one shops at nexa.

True. I guess their crowd just serves as my peptide satire.

 

[janedoe]

I haven't seen an update on the 400mg overfill of NAD from another Vendor test get nearly the smack as some other vendors.
All backdoor markets will have some facet of issue. It's the researcher that has to decide if it's best for them considering all context. Pick the battle based on an autonomous decision. If a product tests well, who cares if it's ugly? It's not am$z$n and it's all risky.

 

[Calm Logic]

Charge more, get more smack? 🎯

I know Cain subsidizes some third party tests, but he also charges so much for tirz, my current GLP.

You can just do your own tests after buying tirz for 34 cents a mg from SSA. Or do group buys or group tests. Or just take your chances and use the savings to splurge on something else.

 

[nonyabizznez]

As one who filters my peptides I'm not going to filter my shit... And if I did I wouldn't drink it.

If I'm paying a Nexha premium with his hype and QR code to quality lab testing etc I don't want to have to filter because of visible shit in the vial. His Nad looks like he said "Look y'all, I can piss in it and they'll buy it!"

His prices are as unappealing as his product lately. Have at it Kmart shoppers!

 

[mopo89]

As one who filters my peptides I'm not going to filter my shit... And if I did I wouldn't drink it.

If I'm paying a Nexha premium with his hype and QR code to quality lab testing etc I don't want to have to filter because of visible shit in the vial. His Nad looks like he said "Look y'all, I can piss in it and they'll buy it!"

His prices are as unappealing as his product lately. Have at it Kmart shoppers!

oh my goodness, i saw that he ships to canada now so i checked out his prices (i've been gone for like 5 months and have no idea who to order from now lmao). i was like a deer in headlights looking at them. why are they so expensive?! i closed that browser so fast and noped outta there.

 

[nonyabizznez]

oh my goodness, i saw that he ships to canada now so i checked out his prices (i've been gone for like 5 months and have no idea who to order from now lmao). i was like a deer in headlights looking at them. why are they so expensive?! i closed that browser so fast and noped outta there.

My theory is his customer base of newbies, Redditors, Tik Tokers and OnlyFans performers exceeds GLP forum members.

It's also possible he's evading a process server or expects to be in the near future and gearing up for legal fees or a nest egg for the inevitable.

 

[catdog]

As one who filters my peptides I'm not going to filter my shit... And if I did I wouldn't drink it.

If I'm paying a Nexha premium with his hype and QR code to quality lab testing etc I don't want to have to filter because of visible shit in the vial. His Nad looks like he said "Look y'all, I can piss in it and they'll buy it!"

His prices are as unappealing as his product lately. Have at it Kmart shoppers!

Not everyone filters their fecal matter? Good fuck.

 

[Calm Logic]

gearing up for legal fees or a nest egg for the inevitable.

Thank goodness he is safe in Shanghai 🙏

 

[esdsafepoet]

Let the adventure begin. I shoulda majored in chemistry.

 

[CrimsonTaco47]

So Nexa seems to be in the same sinking boat as SRY now, which had similar issues with rubber pieces or flies or whatever.

SRY is still worse maybe to due to recent underfill issues. But the Nexa advantage of more third-party testing seems less important now, especially when you can get tirz cheap from SSA or a group buy.

I chose not to go with SRY because every single jano test i saw they were massively underfilled....crazy. I ended up going with SSA and it just shipped today so hoping their goodies are...goodie

 

[catdog]

I chose not to go with SRY because every single jano test i saw they were massively underfilled....crazy. I ended up going with SSA and it just shipped today so hoping their goodies are...goodie

Did you order from CN or US warehouse?

 

[chmuse]

My theory is his customer base of newbies, Redditors, Tik Tokers and OnlyFans performers exceeds GLP forum members.

It's also possible he's evading a process server or expects to be in the near future and gearing up for legal fees or a nest egg for the inevitable.

He's all over TikTok now. His TG is almost at 10k members. Most tiktokkers were buying from single vial vendors from people with affiliate codes, so they're still getting a great deal buying from him.

 

[Skidude]

It is impossible to defend bad behavior and we all must put a certain level of trust and those who sell us items for injection. We should continue to point out when there are issues and be wary of how they are handled.

I cannot think of any of the "regular vendors" that have avoided scandal and the odds of an issue arising directly correlate to the volume that they deal with. The more buyers the more opportunity for mistake.

As for misrepresenting- I am pretty sure they are not gorgeous models that started their own manufacturing company and believe us to be their dear friends.

To put this in perspective- If we are using Pharma as the benchmark for excellence here are some billion dollar suits, not even including the small mistakes settled out of court:

 

[StonePny]

@Skidude I've thought this same thing, many times!----------

As for misrepresenting- I am pretty sure they are not gorgeous models that started their own manufacturing company and believe us to be their dear friends. 😄 😄

 

[Airborne Daddy]

It is impossible to defend bad behavior and we all must put a certain level of trust and those who sell us items for injection. We should continue to point out when there are issues and be wary of how they are handled.

I cannot think of any of the "regular vendors" that have avoided scandal and the odds of an issue arising directly correlate to the volume that they deal with. The more buyers the more opportunity for mistake.

As for misrepresenting- I am pretty sure they are not gorgeous models that started their own manufacturing company and believe us to be their dear friends.

To put this in perspective- If we are using Pharma as the benchmark for excellence here are some billion dollar suits, not even including the small mistakes settled out of court:

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Crooked as the local tax collector. Drug dealers have more integrity....

 

[nonyabizznez]

To put this in perspective- If we are using Pharma as the benchmark for excellence here are some billion dollar suits, not even including the small mistakes settled out of court:

And just like our healthcare insurers will pay pennies on the dollar of these settlements and patients will pay the remainder. Another reason script prices are what they are.

 

[mopo89]

He's all over TikTok now. His TG is almost at 10k members. Most tiktokkers were buying from single vial vendors from people with affiliate codes, so they're still getting a great deal buying from him.

it's just crazy to me that people would see his site and buy just because it's cheaper, when an iota of research would show you that there are cheaper options out there of comparable or better quality. 😵

 

[brentm]

Yeah I noticed Cain jacked up his prices once his church was built and his cult was following along. Buying Nexaph merch to show off their affils.

Foreign objects in my tirz gets the nope. I'd ask for a refund. I don't know how these vendors get shit in their vials unless they're cutting corners in the lab. Like not suiting up properly...

60 bucks for a 3d printed case for 25 vials? 40 bucks for a insulated no name chinese mug? Waterbottle? Bottle openers? Seriously?

 

[Airborne Daddy]

Yeah I noticed Cain jacked up his prices once his church was built and his cult was following along. Buying Nexaph merch to show off their affils.

Foreign objects in my tirz gets the nope. I'd ask for a refund. I don't know how these vendors get shit in their vials unless they're cutting corners in the lab. Like not suiting up properly...

60 bucks for a 3d printed case for 25 vials? 40 bucks for a insulated no name chinese mug? Waterbottle? Bottle openers? Seriously?
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Dammit. He's a lost cause now... imma just say bye. Was pretty happy the 3 times I ordered but I know this castle will crumble in less than a year...

 

[scarywood75]

You want super sterile buy from Empower
You want descent tirz at a fraction of the price order from cain
I still cant believe people cant expect small issues when ordering dark market stuff
This is the way!

Lol I wouldn't call their tirz cheap, T60 preorder is at 385$ where some CN vendors have it in promotion at 200$ 😂

 

[IndividualPickle]

Hate to say it but I think Cain might be getting too big for his britches

 

[zpped]

I chose not to go with SRY because every single jano test i saw they were massively underfilled....crazy. I ended up going with SSA and it just shipped today so hoping their goodies are...goodie

I'm not endorsing SRY, but looking through the private test tracker I'm seeing 20+ on target tests and only 1 or 2 under filled?

 

[zpped]

As for misrepresenting- I am pretty sure they are not gorgeous models that started their own manufacturing company and believe us to be their dear friends.

Since you weren't actually around when this happened I'll forgive repeating this talking point. But I think you're sorely mistaken on what that is actually about.

To set the record straight, no one give a shit that Cain is fake identity. No one expects any vendor to use their real identity.

There are two issues with Cain's identity.
1) A well known member of community secretly created a new identity and tried to hide it. While influencing the community from the old identity.

2) Took the identity of a real person in China that worked in a vaccine lab and tried to convince everyone he had expertise.

If these don't bother you, fine, whatever. But at least stop trying to say its the same thing Tracy using the photo of a celebrity. Hell, Tracy used to be just another member of the community under a different name too but it was never a secret and he partnered with a real chinese lab.

 

[Skidude]

Since you weren't actually around when this happened I'll forgive repeating this talking point. But I think you're sorely mistaken on what that is actually about.

To set the record straight, no one give a shit that Cain is fake identity. No one expects any vendor to use their real identity.

There are two issues with Cain's identity.
1) A well known member of community secretly created a new identity and tried to hide it. While influencing the community from the old identity.

2) Took the identity of a real person in China that worked in a vaccine lab and tried to convince everyone he had expertise.

If these don't bother you, fine, whatever. But at least stop trying to say its the same thing Tracy using the photo of a celebrity. Hell, Tracy used to be just another member of the community under a different name too but it was never a secret and he partnered with a real chinese lab.

I am not targeting Tracy or any of the other CN models.
It isn't even that the judgment seems imbalanced, though your story does make sense why it might be. Tracy left with millions in his wallet.. so it is different I agree.

I get it, it seemed personal, and correct I do not recall those specifics.
I have been frequenting this site for about 8 months and have seen a lot. I think i remember some issue with his mod doing "3rd" party testing IDK.. I am really drama oblivious.

Your previous post, in this thread, was about SRY only underfilling a few, I saw a post about a month ago from @nonyabizznez that had 12 out of 12 underfilled, a few weeks before that was the specks and glass, before that they may have been part of the 0 pep fiasco, and we all know about the fentanyl crisis.

I simply do not believe you can pick and choose equal vices or issues based on personal feelings.
SRY has had many issues, as did Tracy, LSPL, ASC, SSA, Royal peptide, and the list goes on..
Hell, I came here from reddit for a spreadsheet last September and watched that drama unfold.

Always drama.. But here is my opinion, albeit with little value to some, none are perfect, some are less, I don't defend or support any. Read my post history and you will find I have been purposely ambiguous in my recommendations.

I'm just saying I agree, I am not a Cain fan on the latest actions, but I can be fair and say all our Dear Vendors can leave or screw up anytime, it is the nature of our little hobby.

I would say if you don't like gray buy from EL..except:

 

[Iamnew2this]

I am not targeting Tracy or any of the other CN models.
It isn't even that the judgment seems imbalanced, though your story does make sense why it might be. Tracy left with millions in his wallet.. so it is different I agree.

I get it, it seemed personal, and correct I do not recall those specifics.
I have been frequenting this site for about 8 months and have seen a lot. I think i remember some issue with his mod doing "3rd" party testing IDK.. I am really drama oblivious.

Your previous post, in this thread, was about SRY only underfilling a few, I saw a post about a month ago from @nonyabizznez that had 12 out of 12 underfilled, a few weeks before that was the specks and glass, before that they may have been part of the 0 pep fiasco, and we all know about the fentanyl crisis.

I simply do not believe you can pick and choose equal vices or issues based on personal feelings.
SRY has had many issues, as did Tracy, LSPL, ASC, SSA, Royal peptide, and the list goes on..
Hell, I came here from reddit for a spreadsheet last September and watched that drama unfold.

Always drama.. But here is my opinion, albeit with little value to some, none are perfect, some are less, I don't defend or support any. Read my post history and you will find I have been purposely ambiguous in my recommendations.

I'm just saying I agree, I am not a Cain fan on the latest actions, but I can be fair and say all our Dear Vendors can leave or screw up anytime, it is the nature of our little hobby.

I would say if you don't like gray buy from EL..except:

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That's true, too!

 

[zpped]

I am not targeting Tracy or any of the other CN models.
It isn't even that the judgment seems imbalanced, though your story does make sense why it might be. Tracy left with millions in his wallet.. so it is different I agree.

I get it, it seemed personal, and correct I do not recall those specifics.
I have been frequenting this site for about 8 months and have seen a lot. I think i remember some issue with his mod doing "3rd" party testing IDK.. I am really drama oblivious.

Your previous post, in this thread, was about SRY only underfilling a few, I saw a post about a month ago from @nonyabizznez that had 12 out of 12 underfilled, a few weeks before that was the specks and glass, before that they may have been part of the 0 pep fiasco, and we all know about the fentanyl crisis.

I simply do not believe you can pick and choose equal vices or issues based on personal feelings.
SRY has had many issues, as did Tracy, LSPL, ASC, SSA, Royal peptide, and the list goes on..
Hell, I came here from reddit for a spreadsheet last September and watched that drama unfold.

Always drama.. But here is my opinion, albeit with little value to some, none are perfect, some are less, I don't defend or support any. Read my post history and you will find I have been purposely ambiguous in my recommendations.

I'm just saying I agree, I am not a Cain fan on the latest actions, but I can be fair and say all our Dear Vendors can leave or screw up anytime, it is the nature of our little hobby.

Oh for sure. I shit on every vendor all the time. We get accused of being unfair with criticism of cain but I think that's because every other vendor just doesn't get talked about as much positive or negative. I don't think there is a single vendor thread on this forum that I haven't said something negative about that vendor in.

My comment on SRY was purely factual. I don't buy from them because I don't want my address associated with a company under dea investigation. So I don't keep up with them but they do have 20+ tests in ptds and only 1 or 2 that are underfilled. That's why I ended that post with a question mark? Maybe they are going through a recent underfill spell that I hadn't heard about yet.

 

[Calm Logic]

Also, to state the obvious, Nexa is practically in our backyard and charges more than most vendors mentioned here. So an easy target for both praise and criticism, especially since he is also seen as the Amazon of vendors.

 

[AndyPanda]

So Nexa seems to be in the same sinking boat as SRY now, which had similar issues with rubber pieces or flies or whatever.

SRY is still worse maybe to due to recent underfill issues. But the Nexa advantage of more third-party testing seems less important now, especially when you can get tirz cheap from SSA or a group buy.

Nexaph will at least send you a replacement. Cain has been really good about that in the past. Just talk to him.

 

[Skidude]

Also, to state the obvious, Nexa is practically in our backyard and charges more than most vendors mentioned here. Easy to praise and easy to target.

I hear this often as well, I have made a few purchases.
When I bought I paid the price that was about $60 higher for T60 on pre-buy.
For that markup of .10 cents a mg I received free shipping, 3rd party tested and vendor tested, great customer service, and delivery within a few days.

I don't know about everyone, but do not have the cheapest TV, Car, or home, and I occasionally go out to eat and spend more on dinner than I could if i cooked at home.

Let me be as clear as possible- I do not feel comfortable buying from Nexaph now, the NAD deal and the cardboard mess is 100% past my threshold-

But the ridiculous price argument and crypto argument seems disingenuous at best.

It is an incidental price per mg and I have purchased using crypto from PGB, Kawwal, etc..

 

[Calm Logic]

The prices have come down even more though by buying direct from China.

So that is part of the landscape that has changed, when you can afford your own (or group) testing by buying tirz for 34 cents/mg. Or reta for 67 cents/mg or whatever it is now from some Chinese vendors.

 

[scarywood75]

I hear this often as well, I have made a few purchases.
When I bought I paid the price that was about $60 higher for T60 on pre-buy.
For that markup of .10 cents a mg I received free shipping, 3rd party tested and vendor tested, great customer service, and delivery within a few days.

I don't know about everyone, but do not have the cheapest TV, Car, or home, and I occasionally go out to eat and spend more on dinner than I could if i cooked at home.

Let me be as clear as possible- I do not feel comfortable buying from Nexaph now, the NAD deal and the cardboard mess is 100% past my threshold-

But the ridiculous price argument and crypto argument seems disingenuous at best.

It is an incidental price per mg and I have purchased using crypto from PGB, Kawwal, etc..

I mean, it's almost double at the moment and this is presale, it's not just a bit more expensive

I understand convenience and all, but is it really worth it for that much more?

Excluding shipping, SSA at 33¢/mg vs Nexaph at 64¢/mg, you calling that a small markup?

Regular price at the moment is 38¢/mg from your usual CN vendors, this is 24¢/mg LESS than Nexaph promotion

 

[Calm Logic]

Let me be as clear as possible- I do not feel comfortable buying from Nexaph now, the NAD deal and the cardboard mess is 100% past my threshold

Good to hear. I'll be selling some unlicensed SSA and WBS merchandise soon, haha.

 

[Skidude]

I mean, it's almost double at the moment and this is presale, it's not just a bit more expensive

I understand convenience and all, but is it really worth it for that much more?

Excluding shipping, SSA at 33¢/mg vs Nexaph at 64¢/mg, you calling that a small markup?

Regular price at the moment is 38¢/mg from your usual CN vendors, this is 24¢/mg LESS than Nexaph promotion

Although there has been a price increase, let's be honest.. I spend more on my dang supplements.
The reality is it was the convenience store of grey, but he may have gotten lazy, or done enough volume to get more complaints, who knows...

Even if none of that is true, we are talking the difference of $144 or $3 a week on about 1 year supply if you don't' test. if you add in testing, shipping, etc it gets close fast.

It seems like basic math to me, but hey you guys root for what ever team your on, I am not cheering for any of them, I'm just glad to play the game and sometimes I pay for convenience some times I don't.
Maybe I'm just oblivious to a group effort to get Cain to come down on his price and all you guys plan on ordering tomorrow.. lol

 

[Calm Logic]

If you have the money to burn, then why not test one or two of your own vials for sterility too? In any case, kit testing seems way better than batch testing to me.

 

[Skidude]

If you have the money to burn, then why not test one or two of your own vials for sterility too? In any case, kit testing seems way better than batch testing to me.

I hope you are not comparing my 10 cent per mg as "money to burn"?

 

[dillydillymedical]

For that markup of .10 cents a mg I received free shipping, 3rd party tested and vendor tested, great customer service, and delivery within a few days.

First post on the forum, came across this digging around some info from nexaph, since that's where I've gotten my R24 and glow from and was digging into the world of peptides more.

Like Skidude mentioned in the quote, I haven't come across another domestic vendor that has all the above. I feel comfortable knowing that what I order is tested multiple times (once from Cain sent, and another from user submitted vials) on different days. To me, I do not want to deal with getting something shipped from CN and deal with the potential headaches that could come from that.

Would I like a cheaper price rather than spending $2.25/mg for R24 (which from Nexaph, I've had both vials filled ordered be about 10% higher) ? Hell yea of course, but even seeing some of the cheaper prices from some listed vendors here, idk how you can trust some of them while they have red dye for their Lipo-c (TFC).

I'm still learning more and more about vendors, but I haven't seen a vendor have multiple testing times, domestic shipping, decent customer service, and who will quickly fix any mistakes/bad tests.

I probably sound like a shill which goes against the grain here lol

 

[ZippityDooDah]

I probably sound like a shill which goes against the grain here lol

The fact that you can acknowledge how your post may sound is the only reason I approved it when normally I would have just deleted like the dozens of similar posts we deal with every day from new members with zero other posts.

There are far too many of these kind of posts for them to simply be really enthusiastic new members that feel compelled to share just how great their experience with Vendor X has been before even bothering to introduce themselves, getting a "feel for the room", or just reading a handful of the 54K+ existing posts. Too much of this has the feel of incentivization and despite the creativity of some we're not blind to it. Food for thought.

Anyway, welcome aboard!

 

[zpped]

I'm still learning more and more about vendors, but I haven't seen a vendor have multiple testing times, domestic shipping, decent customer service, and who will quickly fix any mistakes/bad tests.

This is a lot more common than you think. Most group buys meet this criteria. (edit to add *good* group buys because I'm sure there are an infinite number of bad ones)