I think you have to take that with a grain (or more) of salt. There are many Uther fans, but I think that was for the old Uther and not the new Uther, and things have changed. Your efforts are appreciated.
No tirz detected in Uther T60
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peppystrings80
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Well, I mean, same
If "new Uther" turns out to be shady I will be very disappointed. I've ordered from "old Uther" a couple of times and had good experiences with them. I was considering placing an order for some of the stuff on their price list that's hard to find. There's talk of them working on sourcing eloralintide, which would be interesting.
I never bought GLPs from them since their prices were not great, but they do have a large selection of other peps on the March price list. The lack of updates on the list may be a reflection of the changes underway.
The fact that their January NAD endo test raised alarm, and that Enzo said they was moving to more expensive base materials to address it, coupled with the fact that the March batch had an almost equally high endo test, makes me question what exactly is going on there. There are also rumors that Enzo sold the company and that he's out of the picture for daily operations. I don't know.
I would stay away from Elora until testing vendors have confirmed that they can detect the cyclic ring to confirm it was synthesized correctly. It's the only GLP1 to date with that ring, and both Jano and Uzorak haven't confirmed they can yet. If they can't manufacture it correctly, you have a bunch of amino acids that may have an unknown effect on the receptors they are meant to act upon. There are a few CN manufacturers that provide raws to BP and are capable of proper manufacture, but whether Uther has secured one of them is an open question.
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Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
Send me a vial and I can tell you within few days if it is at least a GLP, haha. Besides a lot of appetite suppression, 8+ mg of tirz or reta would be horrible diarrhea for me. No placebo/nocebo can do some of the GI sides.
If it truly is zero tirz, the most likely scenario may be that you got reta instead. But the lab in question is the worst lab to take seriously. To quote someone on TG: "Krause is notoriously shite."
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randompersonrandom
GLP-1 Specialist
don't mind me, just getting in early in case this becomes a mega thread.
peppystrings80
GLP-1 Apprentice
I know. It's honestly very hard to know what to think. I've got my next sample packed up and ready to go off to Freedom, who can hopefully put this to rest once and for all. But I'll update if I get more information from Krause or F.i.n....n..rick (let's see if this one gets through)
Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
The only recent 3P results I have found are below.
No batch number yet for this T60 from Uther (cropping of the image was by the GB group):
For comparison, almost all of Uther's vendor results:
So I see now your batch was from January/February, vendor tested on January 28th:
Any issues that far back would likely have been detected by the community by now. But I will post if I find anything from that batch or time period.
The most recent Uther vendor results:
https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/133977-tir60mg_ZE600322_QH4X2MBN2ZBJ (done same day as 3P test, April 7th; within range of 3P testing)
(most recent; slightly less overfill; done on April 20th)
So for April, the vendor results were close to those 3P results from April 7th.
No batch number yet for this T60 from Uther (cropping of the image was by the GB group):
For comparison, almost all of Uther's vendor results:
So I see now your batch was from January/February, vendor tested on January 28th:
Any issues that far back would likely have been detected by the community by now. But I will post if I find anything from that batch or time period.
The most recent Uther vendor results:
https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/133977-tir60mg_ZE600322_QH4X2MBN2ZBJ (done same day as 3P test, April 7th; within range of 3P testing)
(most recent; slightly less overfill; done on April 20th)
So for April, the vendor results were close to those 3P results from April 7th.
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Only tangentially related, but I sent a 10mg vial of Cagrilintide to Finn….rick and they sent it to Krause. Krause says that the mass in the tested vial was 2.55mg.
I pinned .5mg from this batch a couple of weeks ago and it was tough to eat calories the next three day, no interest in food. Had to force myself.
I’m like, okay, this is why everyone says they suck.
I pinned .5mg from this batch a couple of weeks ago and it was tough to eat calories the next three day, no interest in food. Had to force myself.
I’m like, okay, this is why everyone says they suck.
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peppystrings80
GLP-1 Apprentice
I'm sorry, but unless you have another lab result, I don't think how it made you feel is a very good judge of it's effectiveness. Again, a bunch of researchers not being very scientific.
There is nothing in science that provides more direct evidence to the researcher than self-observation of phenomena. This is not opinion — it is the epistemological bedrock on which empirical inquiry was built. What I am doing when I observe and document effects on myself is science, full stop. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
peppystrings80
GLP-1 Apprentice
K. The mind is a powerful drug, isn't it, grogy
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Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
You think we are biased. But we have seen more data points than you have. So if we are biased, it is because of the data, quite frankly.
peppystrings80
GLP-1 Apprentice
I do think you are biased, it's true. We all have biases. Sorry to get heated. I'm genuinely worried about these test results and I am trying to do the right thing.
peppystrings80
GLP-1 Apprentice
The next vial is on its way to Freedom for a blind peptide test. They told me to get the most accurate results, I should tell them the presumed peptide volume so they can ensure proper dilution. So I told them it was supposed to be 60 mgs of an unknown peptide. I refrained from telling them it was from Uther because I don't want any hint of bias from anyone at the lab, lol.
I did not ask for an endotoxin test. The results on Krause's were low. Lol.
I did not ask for an endotoxin test. The results on Krause's were low. Lol.
peppystrings80
GLP-1 Apprentice
Whaaat? Someone posted something about this??? Shoot I deactivated it when it became X. What did it say?
its one of those investigative journalism types.. idk much about her but she be showing some good deals on small unknown vendors so ive been following for a few days now.
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byefatlicia
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Ha! I knew it! I've been reading her stuff and suspected she was one of us... Hi some lady & her AI ghostwriter🙂 Got to admit. Everything I've read is solid. Or as the kids say... Based...
byefatlicia
GLP-1 Enthusiast
LMAO! another easter egg
I thought egg was chicken embryo? I can't keep up anymore!
byefatlicia
GLP-1 Enthusiast
not this time???
peppystrings80
GLP-1 Apprentice
Haha!! Honestly, I was hoping to talk to her, I wondered if she might have some more insight about the labs.
DragonOfTheSea
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Very curious on the Freedom results… intently watching.
randompersonrandom
GLP-1 Specialist
oh my god sometimes you get me so good, I'm just braying laughter in a quiet room and startled my cat
byefatlicia
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Ask her to DM you. She's following this thread, apparently...
peppystrings80
GLP-1 Apprentice
I just reached out to her actually!
sheilarae74
GLP-1 Enthusiast
She's got a stack following and her own TG server, I think she's trying to be another STG. She thinks that everyone the glpforum forum endorses jeep even after the whole endotoxin deal. I wish I could find where she said that and screenshot it.
oh ya i know, i joined all that stuff lol. i just want the deals!
