Noob question but gotta ask, same needle multiple pins?

[brah389]

Ok, I'm starting BCP-157, TB-500 and KPV tomorrow for an acute ankle injury (compound fracture & surgical recovery) Starting with 500mcg each twice a day. Any issues using the same needle to pull from the separate vials and injecting all together?

 

[HereKittyKitty]

One peptide. One syringe. One pin. Deposit syringe into sharps container.

 

[on2jinm]

One peptide. One syringe. One pin. Deposit syringe into sharps container.

nuf said

 

[indolent]

Needles are cheap and typically sold 100 at a time

 

[rkbleddyn]

Ok, I'm starting BCP-157, TB-500 and KPV tomorrow for an acute ankle injury (compound fracture & surgical recovery) Starting with 500mcg each twice a day. Any issues using the same needle to pull from the separate vials and injecting all together?

I do it every day and have not died yet, so there is some anecdotal evidence that it is OK. However, I am not recommending you do this. I am careful and toss the syringe into my sharps collection at end of day and I don't share needles with other peptide users 😎

 

[tendency]

Ok, I'm starting BCP-157, TB-500 and KPV tomorrow for an acute ankle injury (compound fracture & surgical recovery) Starting with 500mcg each twice a day. Any issues using the same needle to pull from the separate vials and injecting all together?

Been re-using syringes and needles for 10 years, never had an issue. Now, mind you, I don't wait around. I re-use my gear in about a 10 minute window. Less waste, harmless IMO.

 

[Don]

You can contaminate all three vials if you use the same needle to draw from each of them. I’d be very cautious about that, as contamination can lead to serious infections, including sepsis, which is definitely not something you want to deal with.

Personally, I would use a separate sterile needle for each vial and for the injection, even if it costs a little more. Health and safety should come first, especially when using research compounds or products from sources where sterility and quality testing may not be fully verified (more important the specific vials and kits u use are not tested seperately)

 

[Elgordoboy]

Besides it’s just dulling the tip each time. Sometimes I don’t even like what just the one push through the rubber seal can do. I’ve gotten to where I use a luer lock much of the time and draw with one and toss then inject with another. And that advice I saw here or somewhere about bevel direction has eliminated nearly any discomfort at all

 

[BNLFL]

Depending on the needle, the rubber stopper kills the needles sharpness.

 

[yrrdead]

As an alternative you could make your own blend of all of these to accomplish the same result. You have the KLOW stack without the GHK-CU.

There are plenty of calculators out there for blending.

Even if you have them all recon'd already, just put them all in the same vial if you have any larger ones to accommodate the volume.

 

[LabRatts]

Every time that needle plunges into something the tip is further blunted.
You do you, but that’s masochism on a whole different level. Like voting for certain candidates, it’s a sure fire way to create your own needless pain.

 

[BNLFL]

Every time that needle plunges into something the tip is further blunted.
You do you, but that’s masochism on a whole different level. Like voting for certain candidates, it’s a sure fire way to create your own needless pain.

Yep. I did this stupid thing yesterday. Instead of grabbing a new .5 31g, I pulled this one out and back in. Went to the belly and had to really push, and that shit hurt.

 

[Vriende]

There is an infamous thread on this topic. It makes an interesting read, but woe be to he who goes there to resurrect it! It became a zombie thread coming back for more and more!

The OP was relentlessly obstinate, aggressively rebuffing all the well meaning advice about safe techniques on how to avoid a nasty case of sepsis. Moderators' and Zippity had to step in at times ...
He played troll too well and eventually got himself banned. We usually don't get to see that last really bad offending remark ;-)

Needle Safety

Always read between the lines definitely do your research check other sources for facts I happened to agree that it is not a good idea, but why would you want to mix peptides though? SubQ pinning is literally painless even if you did it 50 times in one day LOL. What I usually do is I use one...

glp1forum.com

Please let that particular thread RIP though ....

 

[amosmylove]

I draw multiple peps into the same syringe. I'd rather have one maybe ouchy pin than 4 maybe kind of ouchy pins. I did learn to not ever mix a glp1 though. That one gets its own, which is why I know that it still hurts a bit only doing one vial poke. I've only ever 'not felt' a pin poke maybe twice and I've been doing daily pins for months now. I use easy touch syringes, 29g or 31g. I don't know why but the 'quick jab' into the pinched skin that I watched a nurse teach on youtube hurts more than me slowly pushing it in, even if there's resistance from significant dulling.

 

[lessthanhalf]

So long as you are talking about using the same syringe to suck up several different peptides , from different vials, all after using an alcohol wipe on the top, before one injection, and not talking about putting a needle that has been used to inject something into you, back into a vial ( which would definitely make that vial not sterile ), then it really is not a problem. I do this. There may be some peptides that might not agree with being mixed and I think there is a table online somewhere with that info, but the peptides you mention are all part of KLOW which does not seem to be an issue being mixed together. The needle will be a bit blunter after several pokes through rubber, but they are usually so fine they do not hurt even if a bit blunt. Saves a few cents on needles, and the number of holes you have to make in your body.

 

[quicksilver80]

Even in a perfect world and all of its safe.(which it isnt) Which its always been a nono in every community im in. Just reinserting a needle twice into vials it dulls it bad enough that i can physically feel it. Best case its not worth it in any way. Worst case youll get bruising or worse. Just my 2 cents.

 

[coach chickpea]

Ok, I'm starting BCP-157, TB-500 and KPV tomorrow for an acute ankle injury (compound fracture & surgical recovery) Starting with 500mcg each twice a day. Any issues using the same needle to pull from the separate vials and injecting all together?

Nope, go for it. Only thing is the needle slightly dulls with each punctures.

 

[Meritocrat]

Use one needle per shot into the body. Since it's ankle, a short 31g needle must be fine. A shorter needle is less likely to bend or deform. I have been doing this for wolverine use without issue, but I do clean the vial tops and the needle before the actual pinning, with alcohol swabs. I cannot imagine how you can do subcut injection near ankle though.

 

[laansasa]

Ok, I'm starting BCP-157, TB-500 and KPV tomorrow for an acute ankle injury (compound fracture & surgical recovery) Starting with 500mcg each twice a day. Any issues using the same needle to pull from the separate vials and injecting all together?

Those are 3 of the 4 in KLOW which can be mixed into 1 vial. Janoshik did a degradation test and they hold up pretty well mixed together so you can just do 1 pin.

 

[skaylife]

Ok, I'm starting BCP-157, TB-500 and KPV tomorrow for an acute ankle injury (compound fracture & surgical recovery) Starting with 500mcg each twice a day. Any issues using the same needle to pull from the separate vials and injecting all together?

Why don't you make a blend from 3 in one vial and pul at once each time? A reusable insuline pen with 3ml cartridges is a much better solution to constitute and keep them together.

For instance KLOW is a blend containing all of them with GHK-Cu as an extra. They can be mixed under sterile conditions. Easiest way to handel it in a sterile way is using a "still air box". You must sanitize the box by spraying %70 isopropyl alcohol with an atomiser. Search behind it.

 

[tendency]

I forgot to add: yes, I do this however I use a 21G needle to draw the peps and then a separate 30G needle to inject. I do NOT use the same needle to draw/inject. So, no concerns with needle dulling for the injection.

 

[YoYoFat]

You can contaminate all three vials if you use the same needle to draw from each of them. I’d be very cautious about that, as contamination can lead to serious infections, including sepsis, which is definitely not something you want to deal with.

Say it louder for people in the back.

Needles are cheap AF, folks. One needle per pin, full stop.

 

[miameow]

As long as you are mixing two compatible peptides in one syringe just before injecting, you will live. I'm more concerned about contaminating the peptides in the vials than contaminating myself. I would wipe the needle with alcohol before going in for the second vial.

As for pinning myself with the same needle multiple times, I do it daily with my ghk-cu as I inject 5 units in three different sites.

Also worth noting that even derms will poke you several times with the same needle during your botox session.

 

[tendency]

I'm guessing alot of folks on here don't know old school type 1 diabetics - they jab straight through dirty clothing - jeans, sweaty t-shirts etc. - even using the same needle multiple times. "The fat filters it all out" lol.

Don't confuse possibility with probability.

 

[tcpnomad]

You can contaminate all three vials if you use the same needle to draw from each of them. I’d be very cautious about that, as contamination can lead to serious infections, including sepsis, which is definitely not something you want to deal with.

Personally, I would use a separate sterile needle for each vial and for the injection, even if it costs a little more. Health and safety should come first, especially when using research compounds or products from sources where sterility and quality testing may not be fully verified (more important the specific vials and kits u use are not tested seperately)

In your opinion, is it OK to use the same needle to draw from multiple vials, and then inject just once? I mean, the vials are all likely at the same level of sterilization. You may transfer a bit of one substance to another. And the needle will probably get blunter with each poke. But maybe you can just put a new needle on for the final poke. Is this feasible / safe?

 

[ContainHer]

Those are 3 of the 4 in KLOW which can be mixed into 1 vial. Janoshik did a degradation test and they hold up pretty well mixed together so you can just do 1 pin.

100% this - reconstitute all 3, and combine them in the same vial.

 

[Don]

In your opinion, is it OK to use the same needle to draw from multiple vials, and then inject just once? I mean, the vials are all likely at the same level of sterilization. You may transfer a bit of one substance to another. And the needle will probably get blunter with each poke. But maybe you can just put a new needle on for the final poke. Is this feasible / safe?

In theory, if all vials are truly sterile and handled correctly, the risk of contamination from using the same needle to draw from multiple vials may be low (but not zero). However, the problem is that you usually don't know with certainty whether every vial is actually sterile.

If one vial is contaminated, using the same needle can potentially transfer that contamination to the others. That's why best practice is to use a fresh sterile needle for each vial and then a new needle for the injection itself.

So yes, drawing everything into one syringe and injecting once is technically feasible, and many people do it. But from a safety perspective, I don't think the small cost savings are worth the additional contamination risk, especially with these type of compounds where sterility testing is often not performed on every individual vial or kit as said and the needle just gets dull in result of piercing 3 times in a row

 

[miameow]

And the needle will probably get blunter with each poke.

This is what I'm most afraid of, more so than the contamination. Trying to pin myself with a blunt needle. Ouch.

 

[BNLFL]

This is what I'm most afraid of, more so than the contamination. Trying to pin myself with a blunt needle. Ouch.

It hurts, believe me.

 

[TazaTaza]

Luer Lock syringes.

Pull the 2 sep peps in the same syringe with same 23G 1in, and swap for a fresh 8mm 30G for painless inj. right away bevel up.

And/or if they're compatible mix the 2 peps in the same vial, there should be some compatibility chart floating around. Imo poking through multiple vials does dull the pin and more so if you have a higher gauge I notice they're more fragile and it will hurt, burn, sting and sometimes cause unnecessary damage at inj site.