People judge weight loss more harshly when GLP-1 drugs are involved, study finds

I'd bet these people cheat on their taxes w/out a problem..
Seriously, what's the standard here? Even if GLPs are cheating, who is harmed? Cheating on your vehicle inspection puts society at risk. Cheating on taxes takes money from public services. Cheating at Counterstrike harms the competitive community. But what if you're only cheating yourself? Who is to judge? I think tattoos are dumb af but I don't go around calling people with tats "doodleskins" because it's not my business.
 
It's crazy how some people view weight loss as some sort of competition. I get it, you did it the "natural" way, but man am I glad i finally found something that potentially saved my life.

When people talk about libido it's widely accepted that some people just have a higher libido. Why can't they apply the same logic to eating urges?
 
People are too angry. Get too up in arms about shit that doesn't affect them. Obesity is a health issue. People shouldn't be treating this shit as a morality problem.

I'd be glad even if the only positive effects were that my doctor takes me more seriously, but hopefully, I'll never had to go into surgery to fix this.
 

Not too surprising that society has negative connotations regarding weight-loss medications, but that people using the medications are “viewed as less moral, competent, and deserving.” is kind of sad…
It's that phucking Rugged Individualism all over again. That bitch rears her ugly head at every turn.

GLP/GIP medications are not an easier, softer way. Anyone who has used them knows this is true.
 
It is elitism. Ever since the majority of americans started sitting or staying still for work
thinness became elite. Just like a suntan in winter. People with free time can exercise daily, or who can afford the money and time to go play tennis, or go to the gym and have a trainer, dieticitian, and afford fresh lean and green foods can stay thin.
The majority of people however have gained weight in this modern life, of commuting, and sitting, and eating on the go.
pre made foods are high in sugars, fat and preservatives, which in addition to sedentary lifestyles cause obesity. Those who are blessed with genes that keep them thin, or who spend their lives working hard to fight it, feel entitled to their results and the status that comes with it.
If you the person who they know as fat, suddenly start to look like them, after "simply" taking a medication.. it messes with their idea of themselves as superior.
You've skipped the line!
This situation reminds me of Dr Suess's Starbellied Sneetches.
 
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Seriously, what's the standard here? Even if GLPs are cheating, who is harmed? Cheating on your vehicle inspection puts society at risk. Cheating on taxes takes money from public services. Cheating at Counterstrike harms the competitive community. But what if you're only cheating yourself? Who is to judge? I think tattoos are dumb af but I don't go around calling people with tats "doodleskins" because it's not my business.
GLPs are cheating because everyone else looks fatter in comparison 🤣. (Just kidding ofc)
 
I don't see or speak to six people in a week, maybe more.
Still, , , , , ,, Fuck 'em.
 
what the actual hell?? Where are y'all FINDING these "friends" who'd just say something like that right out loud with witnesses??
Every time I've lost a significant amount of weight (which is more times than I'd have liked...) I've had to totally reevaluate my friend group. I don't get it because my bestie has been everywhere from 125lbs to 250lbs and I've always loved her and supported her and was thrilled to go shopping for her even when my fatass couldn't fit in anything in the store.

When you're all fat together you don't really notice it, but this "friend" in particular out ate Ozempic & Zepbound and is totally convinced it will work for no one.
 
I've noticed that people who are unhealthy and severely overweight are mainly the ones who say GLP's are "cheating". I've been using Reta since Oct 2025 and have lost 30lb. My bloodwork is now significantly better than before I started. It's also the severely overweight people who say they are worried about the unknown long term side effects. My scale results and my bloodwork results make me believe that my long term health has only improved.
My experience has been mostly the opposite. It's the thin fit ones who say it to me. That it's not healthy to do it with "drugs" or that it's "cheating". I don't know, way too much judgment about just about anything we do. If you don't breast feed you're a bad mom, if you don't rescue an animal you're irresponsible, or if you throw a plastic bottle in the trash you don't care about the planet. Makes my head spin all the judgment.
 
I think GLP drugs are the closest thing to a solution to obesity that has ever existed, and I think people with significant and especially severe obesity should just about all be taking them and stay on them long term.

But I cannot help having a little bit of instinctive unease about people who are not overweight taking them. I do not entirely agree with myself about this, I do actually believe people have the right to control what goes into their bodies and in general oppose drugs being illegal as , as far as I am concerned their illegality usually causes more problems than the drugs themselves.

I think it is partly as having a serious lifelong problem with weight , and I see these drugs as lifesaving treatments, it does seem just a bit too easy to take some reta to get body fat from 16% to 12%, when I have never been that thin ever. So maybe it is just jealosy .

And I do genuinely think that often those with very minor weight issues or body builders may not have thought through the risk to benefit equations of taking GLP's long term, especially as the long term risks in those populations have never really been studied , so are effectively unknown. And presumably rare and unlikely but severe risks like pancreatitis or NAION are just as likely in those people , but not counterbalanced by dramatic reductions in weight and other health consequences of obesity fixed by GLP's. A slightly thinner bodybuilder who suddenly loses vision in an eye is in some ways a worse outcome than someone with severe obesity who lost 30% of their weight and their diabetes was reversed, and did not have a heart attack, who loses an eye. At least their diabetes was fixed and they missed out on the heart attack, as some sort of compensation.
 
I've noticed that people who are unhealthy and severely overweight are mainly the ones who say GLP's are "cheating". I've been using Reta since Oct 2025 and have lost 30lb. My bloodwork is now significantly better than before I started. It's also the severely overweight people who say they are worried about the unknown long term side effects. My scale results and my bloodwork results make me believe that my long term health has only improved.
There are plenty of normal weight people taking Reta for the potential health benefits. People with decades long liver issues finally achieved normal blood test results. But yeah, the majority are here for the weight loss. In my case, I'm hoping for both.
 
I think GLP drugs are the closest thing to a solution to obesity that has ever existed, and I think people with significant and especially severe obesity should just about all be taking them and stay on them long term.

But I cannot help having a little bit of instinctive unease about people who are not overweight taking them. I do not entirely agree with myself about this, I do actually believe people have the right to control what goes into their bodies and in general oppose drugs being illegal as , as far as I am concerned their illegality usually causes more problems than the drugs themselves.

I think it is partly as having a serious lifelong problem with weight , and I see these drugs as lifesaving treatments, it does seem just a bit too easy to take some reta to get body fat from 16% to 12%, when I have never been that thin ever. So maybe it is just jealosy .

And I do genuinely think that often those with very minor weight issues or body builders may not have thought through the risk to benefit equations of taking GLP's long term, especially as the long term risks in those populations have never really been studied , so are effectively unknown. And presumably rare and unlikely but severe risks like pancreatitis or NAION are just as likely in those people , but not counterbalanced by dramatic reductions in weight and other health consequences of obesity fixed by GLP's. A slightly thinner bodybuilder who suddenly loses vision in an eye is in some ways a worse outcome than someone with severe obesity who lost 30% of their weight and their diabetes was reversed, and did not have a heart attack, who loses an eye. At least their diabetes was fixed and they missed out on the heart attack, as some sort of compensation.
It's okay to feel conflicted on this, I've struggled with my ideal utopian drug policy as well. 10 years ago I was a militant l*bertarian telling people that Walmart should be able to sell bulk meth. I no longer think this is the best policy, but I still think we should be able to do whatever we want to our bodies.

GLPs are just another tool, obese people and fit people can both find uses for them. I still take reta despite reaching my goal weight now because I no longer spend all day thinking about alcohol, drugs, food. These thoughts were using up mental resources which were redirected elsewhere. I'm on reta for mental health more than appetite control at this point.

And I think when obese people get down to a healthy weight and get kicked off their prescription GLPs, they will all turn to the grey market to stay on these medicines. You too may someday be dosing reta to cut down to 10% bodyfat.

As for the safety of taking these drugs, my favorite weight loss drug used to be clenbuterol. I don't f with that anymore, reta is better in every way. The people who take PEDs are safer using these GLPs than the previous alternatives. Lab rats are gunna lab rat, my body has always been a sewer. Since reta, it's been a pretty clean sewer. Try to look at GLPs as a safer replacement for PEDs rather than seeing it in a vaacuum.
 
My experience has been mostly the opposite. It's the thin fit ones who say it to me. That it's not healthy to do it with "drugs" or that it's "cheating". I don't know, way too much judgment about just about anything we do. If you don't breast feed you're a bad mom, if you don't rescue an animal you're irresponsible, or if you throw a plastic bottle in the trash you don't care about the planet. Makes my head spin all the judgment.
I've never had a thin/fit person judge me for it or say anything negative so my experience is definitely the opposite. And I'm super loud and out about my GLP1 use.

And it seems to come directly from two camps of people.

Those that judge it and have something negative to say because they can't afford the drugs and have no interest in grey/compound so it's easier to shit talk it than admit they'd be on it if they could afford to do so. Since it's out of reach for them in their minds, it's easier to call it cheating than admit they want it too.

And the body positive people who think any kind of dieting/exercise is violence against your body so obviously taking a drug that could cause you to lose weight is just as bad. And I'm all for body positivity in the sense that my body is mostly wrecked from having hidradenitis suppurativa but I'm still going to live my life in this body even though it's scarred up and love it as much as I can. And part of loving this body means I'm going to get it to a healthy weight.
 
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But I cannot help having a little bit of instinctive unease about people who are not overweight taking them....

It's none of my business what someone else is doing unless their actions are harming someone else other than themselves.

I also don't know anyone else's story other than my own so who am I to judge.

Since I'm a member here, I've only had about 20# to lose. That's the only part of my lived experience most other members will ever see - my posts about losing 20#. And plenty of them may have their own opinions about a tiny little slice of information.

If I don't want people to judge me, I best look in the mirror and see where my judgment might be oozing out.

(Not attacking @lessthanhalf ...their words resulted in my shared thoughts)
 
Personally, I remember struggling to lose weight without GLPs. Psoriatic Arthritis and just constant inflammation was destroying me. I could go 1400 calories on average, getting as much exercise as I could. I'd lose 1 lb, maybe 1.5 in a month, and I felt horrific.

Enter GLPs (Tirzepatide 2.5 mg to start), and I lost 13 lbs my first 6 weeks, on the entry level amount of Tirz. Inflammation disappeared quickly. Joints were a bit tough (later solved by KPV), but my skin, especially my hands, they healed quickly! I could golf again, I went from the hard, callouslike, torn up skin on my hands, not being able to feel my wife, not being able to hold my niece's hand as we crossed the street without being asked why I was like this...

I sing GLPs praises, for me. I don't march around demanding others do as I do. I'll talk their ear off if they're interested though. It really saved me a lot of ways. When I hit my goal, I'll do an incredibly slow titration down and end with either 1 mg tirz every 5 days, or 0.5 mg reta every every Weds/Sat.

I had a suspicion that those who talk down to GLP users fall into 2 camps. Either people who were able to get in shape/diet and have that work well for them, years ago. Now with something viewed as "magic", its a weird jealousy/gatekeeper thing. I had to work hard for this, you should too! If you get healthier from medicine, it doesn't count!

Or, people like my family. Any unfamiliar/not traditional in the 80s/90s medical stuff viewed as nonsense. "Well why do you need ADHD meds?" "OH well you dont need that GLP stuff". It's not that they don't believe in it, they just feel like taking certain categories of medicine would be seen in a poor light, socially. I don't get it, but I keep a good deal of medicines I take quiet from family now.

All in all, whether you're pro GLP, or against it... You do you. The other side isn't going to suddenly like you anymore if you switch sides. If I died at 45 or 50, no one from that side is mourning me anymore or less. Do what's right for you and your goals! 😀
 
This is the mindset I wish we could have more of. Props to you!
It is something I have to really focus on! "What somebody else thinks of you is none of your business" is also one I am working on. But it is hard when I got skinny shamed from a client the other day 🫠

There is no win. Over-weight? Face fat phobia! Lose weight? Are you "cheating", are you sick?
 
It's that phucking Rugged Individualism all over again. That bitch rears her ugly head at every turn.

GLP/GIP medications are not an easier, softer way. Anyone who has used them knows this is true.
I work my ass off at the gym. If my diet was any cleaner it would include bleach !

And BTW, add my ex-wife to the list !!!
She thinks I'm only able to do what I do because of "chemicals" (she calls it).....the m#%#^F
 
What people don't understand about trying to lose weight is how hard your body fights back against you. They think that if you ate the same amount as them, you would feel the same as them and that all the extra food you eat is for extra pleasure on top of what you already need to feel satisfied. They can't wrap their heads around the idea that how you physically feel on 2000 calories a day is what they would feel eating 1000 calories a day. Most people are not very smart and cannot easily understand that their experience doesn't also apply to everyone else. A lot of people are also desperately insecure and need to cling onto the thought that they are better than another group of people.

What's even more weird is how people on GLP meds can act the same way toward other people on GLP meds who aren't having as much success as them. You don't see it much on this forum but I see it a lot on other platforms. Someone will post "I'm on X.X mg of Tirzep and not losing weight" and everybody will mock them for not dieting or exercising enough and roll their eyes at another lazy glutton expecting an "easy fix". Like...........did the GLP shots make you lose your memory of your entire life before GLP meds???
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What people don't understand about trying to lose weight is how hard your body fights back against you. They think that if you ate the same amount as them, you would feel the same as them and that all the extra food you eat is for extra pleasure on top of what you already need to feel satisfied. They can't wrap their heads around the idea that how you physically feel on 2000 calories a day is what they would feel eating 1000 calories a day. Most people are not very smart and cannot easily understand that their experience doesn't also apply to everyone else. A lot of people are also desperately insecure and need to cling onto the thought that they are better than another group of people.

What's even more weird is how people on GLP meds can act the same way toward other people on GLP meds who aren't having as much success as them. You don't see it much on this forum but I see it a lot on other platforms. Someone will post "I'm on X.X mg of Tirzep and not losing weight" and everybody will mock them for not dieting or exercising enough and roll their eyes at another lazy glutton expecting an "easy fix". Like...........did the GLP shots make you lose your memory of your entire life before GLP meds???
You're so right.
 
This is one of the most insightful threads I have seen here. I agree with a lot of the claims about how stupid some people are. That said, there's nothing wrong in being judgmental. It's vital to ensure functioning justice. As long as folks have the right IQ to base their judgements on, that is. Most of the r3t@rds who malign people for using short-cuts are intellectually challenged. As others said here, they could be internalizing whatever. Either way, the opinion of sheep should never matter. I was just saying this elsewhere. The most optimal way to deal with such pests is with one of the most profound two-word phrases in the English language: "Fvck It".

That said, it would be incorrect to deny that it is definitely a partial failing of character if someone became obese AFTER becoming an adult. Of course, there is the societal villainy promoting widespread obesity. Nevertheless, one has to be held responsible for their choices. I certainly have no issues accepting the reality that even though my obesity began due to faulty parenting from when I was 6 months old, I made poor decisions that exacerbated the problem. If obesity ought to be treated as the negative it is, then there is justification for vilifying it. But, there is no valid justification for demeaning those who use GLPs or surgery. That's analogous to m0r0ns blaming folks for using antipyretics to treat a fever. Obesity is a disease. Its cause is irrelevant. You counter a disease with the best medicine you can obtain.

Once again, others have clarified that Envy, that true mother of all sins, is certainly a big determinant in this situation, along with their brainwashed existence. Work hard is paltry alternative to work smart. Time is the most invaluable resource for any human being. Logically, one must use the best solution for a problem. Someone mentioned the 7 deadly sins. But the general world is unaware that the Christian version is a b@stardized copy of the original Greek virtues and vices. Amongst the 4 virtues, Temperance is ranked 4th on the list, which is why, I wholeheartedly accept personal responsibility in remaining obese after I turned 18. However, the second highest virtue in that list is Prudence, though I rate Phronesis better myself. Prudence mandates using the best tool for the job. Today those might be GLPs and surgery. Tomorrow it may be something else. Any fool who thinks that's cheating can take a long walk on a short pier or alternatively take a jump off their ego on to their IQ.

Anecdotally, when I was in college, once a drunk bully voiced his brilliance by telling me that "if you weren't 6"3, 295lbs, I would kick your a$$. (Fortunately, India was not as an@l about violence as the West. The bully never vocalized such thoughts to me ever again, inebriated or otherwise.)
The same people said you must lose weight, and two weeks later, taking creatine was cheating. Of course, since I was younger, my personal motto of "Fvck it", was slightly different back then. I used "Off" instead of "It", backed up by a delectable threat of violence. Nowadays, when those evolution-discarded Neanderthals profess such stupidity, I merely pull out my Triple 9 Society credentials and tell them to take their polluting imbecility out of my presence.

Therefore, at the end of all that, my point is this. Do not waste precious time considering r3t@rds and their idiocy. Of course, I have a congenital allergy for the intellectually challenged, but an overriding antipathy for the morally deprived vermin as well.

Cheating on taxes takes money from public services
Taxation is theft. Progressive taxation is a murder of justice.

It's that phucking Rugged Individualism all over again. That bitch rears her ugly head at every turn.
Hey! Rugged Individualism rocks. Entitled collectivism is the rotten skank responsible for this travesty. The same anti-merit, anti-hierarchy vermin with single digit IQs who think that "work hard" is a synonym for work smart.
The terms were(are) gluttony and sloth, two of the Seven Deadly Sins. Gluttony (excessive eating/induglence) and sloth (lack of discipline, laziness, failure to exercise) have been so engrained in western culture that a heavy body is seen as a morally compromised body.
I can assure you, it has nothing to do with Western culture. It's universal. In India and China, too, obesity is viewed as a failing/sin. A lack of self-control and discipline, is automatically stamped on the offender. They're not always wrong either.

I'm all for free speech. As long as they don't try to hinder me, the mouth breathers can continue breathing.
 
What's even more weird is how people on GLP meds can act the same way toward other people on GLP meds who aren't having as much success as them. You don't see it much on this forum but I see it a lot on other platforms. Someone will post "I'm on X.X mg of Tirzep and not losing weight" and everybody will mock them for not dieting or exercising enough and roll their eyes at another lazy glutton expecting an "easy fix". Like...........did the GLP shots make you lose your memory of your entire life before GLP meds???
Yup. This is also why giving credence to such jabronis is futile. It's human nature. The vast majority of them are logically challenged. And the inherent psychological need to bolster their self-esteem [Maslow'a hierarchy of needs] to reach their self-actualization means that they will look to feeling superior in whatever way they can, regardless of how absurd or fallacious it is.
 
It is elitism. Ever since the majority of americans started sitting or staying still for work
thinness became elite
It sure is elitism. But that is also a part of the human condition. It's even driven by evolution. Folks want to fulfill their esteem needs, absent which self-actualization is impossible. But low-IQ denizens try to acquire their dose of superiority where none exists. That's the cause here, too.

When good-looking people, or naturally fit folks try to rib me, I always find their communistic thinking quaint and r3t@rded. They're literally proud of something they had no merit in achieving while people who lose weight with GLPs or surgeries are doing it on their own. Bizzaro-world ludicrous thinking. People who are proud of what they haven't earned are trying to shame those who have earned their achievements.

I see the same thing afflicting those miniscule-brained m0r0ns who have problems with AAS users when their claim to fame is based on relying on their genetic advantage in muscle-building.
 

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