Peptides vs Testosterone vs ?

[Bacchus]

The responses i get from a bunch of people here. That's unhealthy and you're going to damage yourself. We're concerned about your health. blah blah blah.

blah blah blah.

Hehe, i think it might be because of your researcher spirit and willingness to be your own guinea pig.

So I wouldn’t be very surprised if what you are doing in reality is significantly safer than it might seem for us when reading

 

[dionysos]

Wow, thanks for the info! I’ll ask my doc about that. IS there a brand or type i should ask for? Amount, dosage, etc? If she wont/cant prescribe it, is there one you recommend i can get thru either grey or online that works well and is safe? Again, being new to this whole world of test and ster i dont know what really to look for. I’d be all on board with subq test, just dont know where to look or what to look for. And maybe you’re right, that may be best to start and then add anavar later if needed. As the gel is working but not as much as id like.

In all things related to prescription drug dosages you should rely upon your MD's advice.

She sounds very clued up about peptides and TRT. Mention sub-Q injections, better uptake, and compounded testosterone when you guys talk then let her take it from there; you'll get the right answers from the best-informed professional source.

 

[milos]

@Cavalier -> both @dionysos and @Bacchus have given you detailed answers, so I can only add a detail that 20mg of Oxandrolone/Anavar will indeed make a big difference:

Effects of androgen therapy on adipose tissue and metabolism in older men - PubMed

We investigated the effects of oxandrolone on regional fat compartments and markers of metabolism. Thirty-two 60- to 87-yr-old men (body mass index, 28.1 +/- 3.4 kg/m(2)) were randomized to oxandrolone (20 mg/d; n = 20) or matching placebo (n = 12) treatment for 12 wk. Oxandrolone reduced total...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

(note this was without a diet)

Even 10mg is not just a drop ... there will be a difference for sure!

Anyway, you are doing well so far, congratulations and keep up the good work!

 

[mostlydamp]

At the risk of reviving an old thread I wanted to add a follow up to my TRT situation. It could help others here. With symptoms of low T I contacted an online TRT company. I got labs done to get a baseline and found out I am a genetic freak walking around making 1071 ng/dL without any special effort. I mean I lost most of the weight and am healthy, good sleep. But this is apparently like unicorn level testosterone. I feel like I win the lottery!

Test your testosterone before using anything that affects it folks! If I took testosterone blindly I would in the long run only tank my production to some degree.

 

[Dee X]

At the risk of reviving an old thread I wanted to add a follow up to my TRT situation. It could help others here. With symptoms of low T I contacted an online TRT company. I got labs done to get a baseline and found out I am a genetic freak walking around making 1071 ng/dL without any special effort. I mean I lost most of the weight and am healthy, good sleep. But this is apparently like unicorn level testosterone. I feel like I win the lottery!

Test your testosterone before using anything that affects it folks! If I took testosterone blindly I would in the long run only tank my production to some degree.

No wonder you're mostly damp, got that T leaking out of you.

 

[SlimReaper]

Glad you guys are discussing oxandrolone. Let me mention my favorite study of it.

FIVE-YEAR OUTCOMES AFTER LONG-TERM OXANDROLONE ADMINISTRATION IN SEVERELY BURNED CHILDREN: A RANDOMIZED CLINICAL TRIAL - PMC

Administration of oxandrolone, a non-aromatizable testosterone analog, to children for 12 months following severe burn injury has been shown to improve height, increase bone mineral content (BMC), reduce cardiac work, and augment muscle strength. ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This study gave burned kids under 18 oxandrolone for 1 year at .1mg / kg twice daily. Study found they had denser, stronger bones, no negatives were found on their natural testosterone levels and they grew lean body mass (and grew taller but it won't affect adults). I plan to follow the same at a slightly less dose around 15mg a day (goal weight is 180 so .2mg / kg would be 16mg and I can't get that accurate of a dose so I'll just stick with 15mg to not risk suppression and keep it easy) for a very long time.

Haven't thoroughly looked at that study in a while so correct me if I'm wrong or missed anything.

 

[cta7978]

At the risk of reviving an old thread I wanted to add a follow up to my TRT situation. It could help others here. With symptoms of low T I contacted an online TRT company. I got labs done to get a baseline and found out I am a genetic freak walking around making 1071 ng/dL without any special effort. I mean I lost most of the weight and am healthy, good sleep. But this is apparently like unicorn level testosterone. I feel like I win the lottery!

Test your testosterone before using anything that affects it folks! If I took testosterone blindly I would in the long run only tank my production to some degree.

My dad is 78 and has a total T level of about 700 ng/dl, which doesn't do him any good as his free testosterone is only about 4 ng/dl and basically suffers hypogonadism symptoms. What were your free testosterone levels?

 

[mostlydamp]

My dad is 78 and has a total T level of about 700 ng/dl, which doesn't do him any good as his free testosterone is only about 4 ng/dl and basically suffers hypogonadism symptoms. What were your free testosterone levels?

It was a little over 100 so I have some available but it's not the ratio that's most favorable between total and free test I guess. I talk to the clinic doc tomorrow so wondering if they may start looking at SHBC or other labs to see how best to tweak things.