Pre filling glp1 syringe

Can't help but shake my head. This is getting ridiculous. I'm going to have to ignore this thread so I don't go unhinged.
YOU'RE INJECTING AN UNKNOWN SUBSTANCE IN YOUR BODY FROM BLACK MARKET CHINA AND YOU WAN'T TO TALK ABOUT HARM REDUCTION!?
 
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tul9033 said:
Can't help but shake my head. This is getting ridiculous. I'm going to have to ignore this thread so I don't go unhinged.
YOU'RE INJECTING AN UNKNOWN SUBSTANCE IN YOUR BODY FROM BLACK MARKET CHINA AND YOU WAN'T TO TALK ABOUT HARM REDUCTION!?
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EXACTLY! It's just a simple math problem, we are already adding more risk, let's try not to add more?
 
raw_oyster_eater said:
you'd probably have a problem with me driving an old rickety car without airbags and no traction control, too much horsepower. you're drawing a line and saying where you draw it is the only place it can be.

none of this is good practice. you're taking a chance these substances are going to do bad things to your body. but you focus on what you want to focus on and proclaim yourself some kind of ultimate authority.

i'm really sick of hearing that buzz term "harm reduction"

but continue being the hero that saves us all from ourselves.
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So for you it's all or nothing? As you said there's already more risk because of where we purchase and what we purchase. This is something we can mitigate by testing as much as possible.

The more precautions you take, the less risky it becomes overall? For precautions like we are talking in this thread, there's almost zero drawbacks.

I don't have an issue with you driving a car like that, as long as you don't tell every ody it's fine nor pass it to people. That's where my issue is.
 
Note that WHO doesn't even recommend an alcohol skin swab before subQ injection. All those icky microbes being pushed into your internal tissue.

AFAIK, Big Pharma doesn't include swabs with their fancy $1100 pens. Don't overthink these things in an ultimately irrational way.
 
indolent said:
Note that WHO doesn't even recommend an alcohol skin swab before subQ injection. All those icky microbes being pushed into your internal tissue.

AFAIK, Big Pharma doesn't include swabs with their fancy $1100 pens. Don't overthink these things in an ultimately irrational way.
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Yeah don't overthink, just yank it. It's only your life afterall.

This type of promoting is reckless, you do it fine, but don't tell people to do the same.
 
There's a difference between not caring about your own risk vs not caring about everyone' risk they'll take when following your reckless recommandations.

Come on guys
 
scarywood75 said:
not caring about your own risk vs not caring about everyone' risk
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This is the mindset of every media article/story about compounded weight loss drugs: full tilt towards the absolute "what if/could/might/may".

There's a risk continuum, even with white market, and forums like these exist in part for people to "think it," not overthink it or underthink it.
 
raw_oyster_eater said:
yea, its your attitude we don't like. make your own best recommendation and move on. no need to constantly posture and browbeat people. i guess that's why you have over 900 posts.
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I'm only answering because people are answering back, if you don't like what I post just don't react

It's funny that you ask me to browbeat people because you are doing it too, I mean I am not insisting here outside of replying back to people that replied to me.

If nobody replied, I wouldn't have added anything else? Unless others can reply but I can't?

I don't understand your take here aha
 
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indolent said:
This is the mindset of every media article/story about compounded weight loss drugs: full tilt towards the absolute "what if/could/might/may".

There's a risk continuum, even with white market, and forums like these exist in part for people to "think it," not overthink it or underthink it.
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There's that risk that we can't really remove. But we can at least reduce the risk for everything else no?

Your take is that; it's already risky so a bit more risk is fine?

It does not need to be nothing or everything, we can have a balance.

I'm not saying reconstitute in a ISO 100 room or something, but not prefilling syringe is something everybody can avoid doing
 
I'm not sure what the benefit would be? Is there a reason someone would want to do it? Isn't just using a pen easier? You fill it once and can just jab yourself standing next to the fridge and put it back.
 
raw_oyster_eater said:
i'm asking you NOT to browbeat people. is English your second language?

its NOT a risk. but you want to take on everyone here and go on and on.
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If it's not a risk, why would there be strict USP guidelines around that?

Yeah my English sucks lol
 
scarywood75 said:
If it's not a risk, why would there be strict USP guidelines around that?

Yeah my English sucks lol
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You're canadian- is French your first language? (Not being snarky, your English is just fine. It's pretty damn good if English is indeed not your first language.)
 
chmuse said:
You're canadian- is French your first language? (Not being snarky, your English is just fine. It's pretty damn good if English is indeed not your first language.)
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Yes you got it, Canadian french aha
 
tul9033 said:
Can't help but shake my head. This is getting ridiculous. I'm going to have to ignore this thread so I don't go unhinged.
YOU'RE INJECTING AN UNKNOWN SUBSTANCE IN YOUR BODY FROM BLACK MARKET CHINA AND YOU WAN'T TO TALK ABOUT HARM REDUCTION!?
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Yes.

This is why it is called 'harm reduction' not 'harm prevention.'

Everyone is entitled to make their own choices and determine their own risk tolerance but part and parcel of most communities like this is discussion on how to minimize all of the risks we can.
 
hexagonal said:
Yes.

This is why it is called 'harm reduction' not 'harm prevention.'

Everyone is entitled to make their own choices and determine their own risk tolerance but part and parcel of most communities like this is discussion on how to minimize all of the risks we can.
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I agree. None of us (or at least few of us) are actually trying to harm ourselves. We're generally trying to improve ourselves. We do take measures, such as researching vendors and following good reconstitution technique, to reduce harm.
 
hexagonal said:
Yes.

This is why it is called 'harm reduction' not 'harm prevention.'

Everyone is entitled to make their own choices and determine their own risk tolerance but part and parcel of most communities like this is discussion on how to minimize all of the risks we can.
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keangkong said:
I agree. None of us (or at least few of us) are actually trying to harm ourselves. We're generally trying to improve ourselves. We do take measures, such as researching vendors and following good reconstitution technique, to reduce harm.
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Yes, but in the context of prefilling a sterile syringe being more harmful than injecting Chinese peptides... No
 
It is only sterile until you open the needle. Then sterility is unknown
 
tul9033 said:
Yes, but in the context of prefilling a sterile syringe being more harmful than injecting Chinese peptides... No
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It is no longer considered sterile at that point.

I prefill syringes sometimes, but never for use over an extended period of time.
 
When it comes sealed from manufacturer. The business end of filter (opposite from syringe) remains sterile, since bacteria and spores can't get through the filter.

You didn't seem to be looking for any information, you made up your mind and not looking for any other opinions other than confirming your plan. Not sure why you even bother posting here
 
stickfigure said:
When it comes sealed from manufacturer. The business end of filter (opposite from syringe) remains sterile, since bacteria and spores can't get through the filter.

You didn't seem to be looking for any information, you made up your mind and not looking for any other opinions other than confirming your plan. Not sure why you even bother posting here
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So the syringe is no longer sterile when opened but the filter "business end" is always sterile. Got it.
I'm extremely pragmatic. The lack of logic and statements of absolutes is mind boggling. I totally accept there is some degree of inherit risk and there are steps to mitigate them in the peptide game, but others want to cherry pick the risks and dismiss the obvious. If having that pointed out bothers you I'm not sure why YOU are posting here.
 
tul9033 said:
Yes, but in the context of prefilling a sterile syringe being more harmful than injecting Chinese peptides... No
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But you’re comparing items with dissimilar benefits. As to using Chinese peptides, I have no choice if I want to use Reta. In contrast, I avoid pre filling a syringe because it doesn’t seem to benefit me in anyway and does carry a small amount of additional risk.
 
Ok, you guys have convinced me to be more sterile.

From now on I'm going back to reconstituting with everclear.
 
chmuse said:
Ok, you guys have convinced me to be more sterile.

From now on I'm going back to reconstituting with everclear.
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I'd probably just drink it so I don't care about harm reduction anymore.
 
keangkong said:
But you’re comparing items with dissimilar benefits. As to using Chinese peptides, I have no choice if I want to use Reta. In contrast, I avoid pre filling a syringe because it doesn’t seem to benefit me in anyway and does carry a small amount of additional risk.
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The funny thing is I don't even prefill syringes. But there was talk of risk of death in this thread if you do prefill. Come on...
Harm reduction, degrees of risk, sterile environments, ISO certifications, etc - Prefilling a syringe is just about at the bottom of the list when compared to taking a vial from black market China with white powder in it and injecting it. That's my point, nothing else.
 
hexagonal said:
I don't know if even sema could give me the self control when it's right in front of me!


I don't want to even imagine what the PIP would be like for an everclear reconstituted injection, lol.
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I did everclear shots when I was young and dumb. 💀 Never again.
 
hotdog! said:
Wait wait wait. You're reconstituting with Bac water, filling cartridges and freezing those? I thought freezing reconstituted glp-1s was a big no-no because it denatures the peptides?
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Same.

On the prefilled subject -- it just reminds me of water in plastic bottles which can taste weird .. therefore I prefer a fresh squeezed pin from the vial. I've done it and never ended up using em.
 
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