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[littledragon25]

May i know where is this chart?

This one I assume.

 

[IshimaruKenta]

Am I assuming "mixing" is referring to mixing in the same syringe or just taking tirz and another peptide?

 

[desinr-gal]

This one I assume.

Thank you yes! I shared it, but didnt keep a copy for myself!

 

[desinr-gal]

Am I assuming "mixing" is referring to mixing in the same syringe or just taking tirz and another peptide?

It means combining in a vial or syringe, taking is separate syringes is stacking.

 

[Fisherman2356]

Is any of you guys researching gb-115 and what is your experience with it (if you have researched it), and do you know if any of the common suppliers carry it?

 

[IshimaruKenta]

It means combining in a vial or syringe, taking is separate syringes is stacking.

I honestly didn't think anyone would do this, nor do I know why you would. I guess less pins but why risk that?

 

[latviantower]

There is a chart on what should and should not be mixed together, and GLPs are all DO NOT MIX together.

I believe the intent is that GLP/GIP/etc shouldn’t be mixed with other peptides. There’s ample reason to believe that mixing weight loss meds is ok. There are many mixtures already on the market.

The MIX “mixup cocktail” is about 4 parts tirz to 1 part reta, 10% overfill. I pinned one quarter of the vial assuming it was my weekly 15 mg dose of tirz. So what I got was approximately 13 mg of tirz with a 3.5 mg reta bonus chaser. I had never taken reta before, and the unexpected side effects of reflux and lack of gastric emptying were a surprise. It lasted about 3 days. I tried it again this week with a 4/5 dose and it was fine. Lost about 2 pounds (I had been maintaining for several months).

 

[randompersonrandom]

I believe the intent is that GLP/GIP/etc shouldn’t be mixed with other peptides. There’s ample reason to believe that mixing weight loss meds is ok. There are many mixtures already on the market.

The MIX “mixup cocktail” is about 4 parts tirz to 1 part reta, 10% overfill. I pinned one quarter of the vial assuming it was my weekly 15 mg dose of tirz. So what I got was approximately 13 mg of tirz with a 3.5 mg reta bonus chaser. I had never taken reta before, and the unexpected side effects of reflux and lack of gastric emptying were a surprise. It lasted about 3 days. I tried it again this week with a 4/5 dose and it was fine. Lost about 2 pounds (I had been maintaining for several months).

yeah, but you saw that it's inconsistent, right? You do what you want, I'm stacking Survo myself and no judgement, but I just wanna make sure you caught the thread where the guy posted multiple tests and the ratio is very different across them, plus some but not all had some really low purity.

 

[littledragon25]

I honestly didn't think anyone would do this, nor do I know why you would. I guess less pins but why risk that?

Blending some together helps with certain side effects. Blending GHK-cu with KPV for example reduces the sting and ISRs.

 

[latviantower]

yeah, but you saw that it's inconsistent, right? You do what you want, I'm stacking Survo myself and no judgement, but I just wanna make sure you caught the thread where the guy posted multiple tests and the ratio is very different across them, plus some but not all had some really low purity.

No I get it. In our case with the MIX T60, the contaminated vial showed 86% purity - but that’s to be expected - the rest of the mix is the reta. The underlying problem with the T60 in question is what you bring up - lack of consistency. One vial was 99%+ tirz, the other was the T/R mixture. (As a result, pretty sure we’re sending more than 2 vials for testing of the reship.)

Bottom line - it’s back to the individual researcher and their risk tolerance. Which is pretty much Rule #1 of this community.

 

[randompersonrandom]

No I get it. In our case with the MIX T60, the contaminated vial showed 86% purity - but that’s to be expected - the rest of the mix is the reta. The underlying problem with the T60 in question is what you bring up - lack of consistency. One vial was 99%+ tirz, the other was the T/R mixture. (As a result, pretty sure we’re sending more than 2 vials for testing of the reship.)

Bottom line - it’s back to the individual researcher and their risk tolerance. Which is pretty much Rule #1 of this community.

oh, you know what, it didn't even hit me that the 86% purity was low cause the reta counted against the purity, lulz. My math didn't math.

 

[juGGaKNot]

oh, you know what, it didn't even hit me that the 86% purity was low cause the reta counted against the purity, lulz. My math didn't math.

I thought that's not what purity shows.
It shows the purity of the peptide only.

You need contamination testing to see what is in the entire vial.

 

[randompersonrandom]

I thought that's not what purity shows.
It shows the purity of the peptide only.

You need contamination testing to see what is in the entire vial.

yeah, I dunno. The only blend I use is klow, and I think if I continue on that past what I have, I'll buy the individual components and blend myself, cause they never test purity on it and I'm fuzzy about whether or not they even can, so the only thing I understand or usually need to understand about purity is that below 99%, you shouldn't use it.

 

[juGGaKNot]

Asking jano would be better.

Maybe it is 86 because of the rera

 

[desinr-gal]

I honestly didn't think anyone would do this, nor do I know why you would. I guess less pins but why risk that?

Time and equipment. like the Klow blend, it's 4 different peps. four different doses each at the same time. The combination is supposed to lessen the sting.

 

[desinr-gal]

I believe the intent is that GLP/GIP/etc shouldn’t be mixed with other peptides. There’s ample reason to believe that mixing weight loss meds is ok. There are many mixtures already on the market.

The MIX “mixup cocktail” is about 4 parts tirz to 1 part reta, 10% overfill. I pinned one quarter of the vial assuming it was my weekly 15 mg dose of tirz. So what I got was approximately 13 mg of tirz with a 3.5 mg reta bonus chaser. I had never taken reta before, and the unexpected side effects of reflux and lack of gastric emptying were a surprise. It lasted about 3 days. I tried it again this week with a 4/5 dose and it was fine. Lost about 2 pounds (I had been maintaining for several months).

Oddly the chart whose origin is unknown to me, clearly says do not mix glps.
Why I do not know, I assumed there was a reason. I pin both T and R on different days.
I assumed there might be undesirable interactions. But the chart shows that many others can be mixed. people seem to really like blending to save time and equipment and ISRs.

 

[chmuse]

Oddly the chart whose origin is unknown to me, clearly says do not mix glps.
Why I do not know, I assumed there was a reason. I pin both T and R on different days.
I assumed there might be undesirable interactions. But the chart shows that many others can be mixed. people seem to really like blending to save time and equipment and ISRs.

Keep in mind ALL of this is research. We are beyond what has been scientifically tested.

The general idea seems to be glp's do not play well with others, and should be kept separate from other peps.

 

[SummerX]

I honestly didn't think anyone would do this, nor do I know why you would. I guess less pins but why risk that?

Some of us have a Problem and want to pin 17 peptides a day but also do not want to be pricked by needles just as many times. Cake and all.

 

[Jellybelly54]

Anyone used Ella Song at Fatcat? I did a search and literally nothing comes up on these pages. Seems like they’re the only ones that have.HCG 10,000iu so I’m curious how business has been conducted with them

I’ve got an order in with her that I placed about 12 hours ago. No tracking number yet. Seems like a legit company. You never know though

 

[desinr-gal]

Keep in mind ALL of this is research. We are beyond what has been scientifically tested.

The general idea seems to be glp's do not play well with others, and should be kept separate from other peps.

This!
Miss-Anne shared a link to a study in which aggregation of peptides is discussed. It seems that it is a problem as they can form themselves into new things that cause disease. This can happen in various ways; from temperature changes, too much agitation, mixing them etc..
Although the article is complex and I admit, mostly went over my head, the gist I got was, Be Careful.
These things do happen and they can be dangerous. So I wouldnt just throw these together and assume they won't mix themselves into something new and harmful.

 

[Craig W.]

Big Pharma is more than likely behind that one.

 

[desinr-gal]

Big Pharma is more than likely behind that one.

Entirely possible, but does that mean the study is wrong?

 

[Craig W.]

Always read between the lines definitely do your research check other sources for facts

 

[Fisherman2356]

Always read between the lines definitely do your research check other sources for facts

I happened to agree that it is not a good idea, but why would you want to mix peptides though? SubQ pinning is literally painless even if you did it 50 times in one day LOL. What I usually do is I use one needle to draw all peptides I'm pining in AM (as an example) but I always use alcohol wipes every time I draw and every time after I pin.

 

[desinr-gal]

I happened to agree that it is not a good idea, but why would you want to mix peptides though? SubQ pinning is literally painless even if you did it 50 times in one day LOL. What I usually do is I use one needle to draw all peptides I'm pining in AM (as an example) but I always use alcohol wipes every time I draw and every time after I pin.

If I understand this correctly you are re-inserting the same needle into each peptide bottle?
That process can and will contaminate each of the successive peptides. There is always going to be stuff inside that needle that mixes into those peptide solutions. If you are also pinning each one, then drawing up the next, then for sure you are infecting those vials with bacteria etc from your body.

 

[Fisherman2356]

If I understand this correctly you are re-inserting the same needle into each peptide bottle?
That process can and will contaminate each of the successive peptides. There is always going to be stuff inside that needle that mixes into those peptide solutions. If you are also pinning each one, then drawing up the next, then for sure you are infecting those vials with bacteria etc from your body.

Yes, you are understanding it correctly (as to what I'm doing) but you are explaining it wrong. How can I be infecting those vials with bacteria if I'm wiping the needle with alcohol wipe every time after I pin one peptide and before I draw the next. While there might be traces (maybe) left inside the syringe after one peptide, I make sure that nothing is left inside it from last pin by push it again once outside my body and wiping it again with alcohol. btw, been doing it this way for over two years and I have never had any reaction whatsoever, not even a little redness at injection site. If you use good practice of disinfecting many times during the process no way you get an infection, or any contamination.

As a side note I use one needle (syringe) for a lot of pinning's also, until it becomes dull. so, no need to waste like 20 needles per day lol, one needle for a week or so will do just fine.

 

[loveisinthearies]

Yes, you are understanding it correctly (as to what I'm doing) but you are explaining it wrong. How can I be infecting those vials with bacteria if I'm wiping the needle with alcohol wipe every time after I pin one peptide and before I draw the next. While there might be traces (maybe) left inside the syringe after one peptide, I make sure that nothing is left inside it from last pin by push it again once outside my body and wiping it again with alcohol. btw, been doing it this way for over two years and I have never had any reaction whatsoever, not even a little redness at injection site. If you use good practice of disinfecting many times during the process no way you get an infection, or any contamination.

As a side note I use one needle (syringe) for a lot of pinning's also, until it becomes dull. so, no need to waste like 20 needles per day lol, one needle for a week or so will do just fine.

So you’re drawing up a dose of a peptide, injecting it, and then using that same needle to draw up another dose of a different peptide and doing that multiple times??

 

[desinr-gal]

Yes, you are understanding it correctly (as to what I'm doing) but you are explaining it wrong. How can I be infecting those vials with bacteria if I'm wiping the needle with alcohol wipe every time after I pin one peptide and before I draw the next. While there might be traces (maybe) left inside the syringe after one peptide, I make sure that nothing is left inside it from last pin by push it again once outside my body and wiping it again with alcohol. btw, been doing it this way for over two years and I have never had any reaction whatsoever, not even a little redness at injection site. If you use good practice of disinfecting many times during the process no way you get an infection, or any contamination.

As a side note I use one needle (syringe) for a lot of pinning's also, until it becomes dull. so, no need to waste like 20 needles per day lol, one needle for a week or so will do just fine.

You didn't explain yourself clearly the first time. The inside of the needle, after piercing and coring your skin, is carrying materials that came from inside your body, which is definitely including bacteria even if you squirt some out. Each time you push it into the vial, you are leaving some in there, and then into your body..The bacteria will eventually spoil your vials, and If you haven't noticed any infection, then you have been very lucky so far.. This process is very dangerous.

 

[Fisherman2356]

So you’re drawing up a dose of a peptide, injecting it, and then using that same needle to draw up another dose of a different peptide and doing that multiple times??

yes absolutely, used to do it with multiple peptides daily, like 10-150 different peptides, but now I only do it with a couple since I've had ZERO positive effect from most peptides. Tried about 25-30 different ones and only could see benefits from 4-5 of them max. So, for now I'm only doing GLP1's, HCG, and HGH, and rarely dabble in on one or two more, but you can rest assured that I'm absolutely using that one exact needle for all of them, and to make the matters worse (actually better) I use that needle for at least couple weeks sometimes even longer. honestly it is not a matter of cost to me, but it looks stupid to me to use like 10 syringes when one is good enough, plus people act as if I'm injecting/sharing it with some alien from another planet lol, it is my body dude, in and out of my body several time what difference does it make.