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I’m seeing contradictory answers to how to store Tesamorelin after reconstituting.

I was led to believe that once mixed with Bac to store it for up to a week in a fridge between 4-8 degrees. But reading the FDA approved paper from EGRIFTA it states that it should be stored at room temperature in a dark place?

And I’m wondering if this is the reason why there’s a lot of gelling up of vials after being stored in a fridge?

The below is a post I seen on Facebook which explains why.


You're Storing Tesamorelin Wrong
If you're treating your tesamorelin like every other peptide in your protocol, you're probably wasting it.
Tesamorelin is structurally different from the other peptides you're used to working with, and those differences change how you have to handle it.
So let me teach you why this one behaves differently.
Peptides are just chains of amino acids bound together.
Tesamorelin is a 44 amino acid chain.
And for context, CJC-1295 no DAC is 29 amino acids, ipamorelin is five, and BPC-157 is 15.
And that length matters for a couple reasons.
First, the longer the chain, the more sites where chemical degradation can occur when it's in solution.
Tesamorelin retains the native amino acids from the original GHRH molecule, and some of those are actually vulnerable to processes called deamidation and oxidation.
Deamidation is when an amino acid loses part of its structure and changes shape and oxidation is when oxygen damages certain amino acids in the chain.
Both of these compromise the peptide's function and both of them start the moment you add water.
Second, longer chains are more likely to fold back on themselves when they're in solution.
And when you have more folding, you have more opportunities for the molecules to bind to each other and aggregate, which basically means they clump together into larger and larger clusters.
Now, here's where things get different from your other peptides.
Unlike CJC or ipamorelin, tesamorelin has temperature dependent solubility that actually inverts at cold temperatures.
So when you put it in the refrigerator like you do with everything else, it exceeds its saturation point and those folded chains start aggregating into a gel.
And once that happens, the vial is done.
And this is exactly why the FDA approved version requires room temperature storage after reconstitution.
And it's also why tesamorelin comes in smaller vials than you might expect.
The vial sizes are designed around a seven day window, because that's how long you have before the degradation makes it ineffective.
So here's what you should actually do with your tesamorelin.
You can keep it frozen before you reconstitute it.
That's fine, but once you mix it, store it in a dark place at room temperature and use it within a week.
The bottom line is tesamorelin requires handling that goes against everything you've learned with other peptides, and now you understand why.
Most people lose potency without realizing it because they're storing it refrigerated like every other peptide.
The gel formation isn't always obvious, and even if you don't see visible clumping, the aggregation is still happening at the molecular level.
That means you're injecting degraded peptide that can't bind to the receptor properly.
You're going through the motions, but you're not getting the growth hormone pulse you're paying for.
If you've been running tesamorelin and not seeing the results you expected, this is probably why.
Check your storage method, reconstitute smaller amounts more frequently, and keep it at room temperature once it's mixed.


And here’s the FDA link:



Interested to hear if anyone stores theirs at room temperature or not?
 
I’m seeing contradictory answers to how to store Tesamorelin after reconstituting.

I was led to believe that once mixed with Bac to store it for up to a week in a fridge between 4-8 degrees. But reading the FDA approved paper from EGRIFTA it states that it should be stored at room temperature in a dark place?

And I’m wondering if this is the reason why there’s a lot of gelling up of vials after being stored in a fridge?

The below is a post I seen on Facebook which explains why.


You're Storing Tesamorelin Wrong
If you're treating your tesamorelin like every other peptide in your protocol, you're probably wasting it.
Tesamorelin is structurally different from the other peptides you're used to working with, and those differences change how you have to handle it.
So let me teach you why this one behaves differently.
Peptides are just chains of amino acids bound together.
Tesamorelin is a 44 amino acid chain.
And for context, CJC-1295 no DAC is 29 amino acids, ipamorelin is five, and BPC-157 is 15.
And that length matters for a couple reasons.
First, the longer the chain, the more sites where chemical degradation can occur when it's in solution.
Tesamorelin retains the native amino acids from the original GHRH molecule, and some of those are actually vulnerable to processes called deamidation and oxidation.
Deamidation is when an amino acid loses part of its structure and changes shape and oxidation is when oxygen damages certain amino acids in the chain.
Both of these compromise the peptide's function and both of them start the moment you add water.
Second, longer chains are more likely to fold back on themselves when they're in solution.
And when you have more folding, you have more opportunities for the molecules to bind to each other and aggregate, which basically means they clump together into larger and larger clusters.
Now, here's where things get different from your other peptides.
Unlike CJC or ipamorelin, tesamorelin has temperature dependent solubility that actually inverts at cold temperatures.
So when you put it in the refrigerator like you do with everything else, it exceeds its saturation point and those folded chains start aggregating into a gel.
And once that happens, the vial is done.
And this is exactly why the FDA approved version requires room temperature storage after reconstitution.
And it's also why tesamorelin comes in smaller vials than you might expect.
The vial sizes are designed around a seven day window, because that's how long you have before the degradation makes it ineffective.
So here's what you should actually do with your tesamorelin.
You can keep it frozen before you reconstitute it.
That's fine, but once you mix it, store it in a dark place at room temperature and use it within a week.
The bottom line is tesamorelin requires handling that goes against everything you've learned with other peptides, and now you understand why.
Most people lose potency without realizing it because they're storing it refrigerated like every other peptide.
The gel formation isn't always obvious, and even if you don't see visible clumping, the aggregation is still happening at the molecular level.
That means you're injecting degraded peptide that can't bind to the receptor properly.
You're going through the motions, but you're not getting the growth hormone pulse you're paying for.
If you've been running tesamorelin and not seeing the results you expected, this is probably why.
Check your storage method, reconstitute smaller amounts more frequently, and keep it at room temperature once it's mixed.


And here’s the FDA link:



Interested to hear if anyone stores theirs at room temperature or not?
Literally happened last night. Added 1ml of bac, refrigerated and gel.... added another ml of bac and more gel.... gonna do 1 vial at a time and leave it out pinning 2mg a day for 5 days on 2 days off. Thanks for posting!
 
I’m seeing contradictory answers to how to store Tesamorelin after reconstituting.

I was led to believe that once mixed with Bac to store it for up to a week in a fridge between 4-8 degrees. But reading the FDA approved paper from EGRIFTA it states that it should be stored at room temperature in a dark place?

And I’m wondering if this is the reason why there’s a lot of gelling up of vials after being stored in a fridge?

The below is a post I seen on Facebook which explains why.


You're Storing Tesamorelin Wrong
If you're treating your tesamorelin like every other peptide in your protocol, you're probably wasting it.
Tesamorelin is structurally different from the other peptides you're used to working with, and those differences change how you have to handle it.
So let me teach you why this one behaves differently.
Peptides are just chains of amino acids bound together.
Tesamorelin is a 44 amino acid chain.
And for context, CJC-1295 no DAC is 29 amino acids, ipamorelin is five, and BPC-157 is 15.
And that length matters for a couple reasons.
First, the longer the chain, the more sites where chemical degradation can occur when it's in solution.
Tesamorelin retains the native amino acids from the original GHRH molecule, and some of those are actually vulnerable to processes called deamidation and oxidation.
Deamidation is when an amino acid loses part of its structure and changes shape and oxidation is when oxygen damages certain amino acids in the chain.
Both of these compromise the peptide's function and both of them start the moment you add water.
Second, longer chains are more likely to fold back on themselves when they're in solution.
And when you have more folding, you have more opportunities for the molecules to bind to each other and aggregate, which basically means they clump together into larger and larger clusters.
Now, here's where things get different from your other peptides.
Unlike CJC or ipamorelin, tesamorelin has temperature dependent solubility that actually inverts at cold temperatures.
So when you put it in the refrigerator like you do with everything else, it exceeds its saturation point and those folded chains start aggregating into a gel.
And once that happens, the vial is done.
And this is exactly why the FDA approved version requires room temperature storage after reconstitution.
And it's also why tesamorelin comes in smaller vials than you might expect.
The vial sizes are designed around a seven day window, because that's how long you have before the degradation makes it ineffective.
So here's what you should actually do with your tesamorelin.
You can keep it frozen before you reconstitute it.
That's fine, but once you mix it, store it in a dark place at room temperature and use it within a week.
The bottom line is tesamorelin requires handling that goes against everything you've learned with other peptides, and now you understand why.
Most people lose potency without realizing it because they're storing it refrigerated like every other peptide.
The gel formation isn't always obvious, and even if you don't see visible clumping, the aggregation is still happening at the molecular level.
That means you're injecting degraded peptide that can't bind to the receptor properly.
You're going through the motions, but you're not getting the growth hormone pulse you're paying for.
If you've been running tesamorelin and not seeing the results you expected, this is probably why.
Check your storage method, reconstitute smaller amounts more frequently, and keep it at room temperature once it's mixed.


And here’s the FDA link:



Interested to hear if anyone stores theirs at room temperature or not?

What about sterility? The older versions of the brand name required immediate use. Anything left had to be thrown away.
 
What about sterility? The older versions of the brand name required immediate use. Anything left had to be thrown away.
I’m not sure tbh?

I seen in an article that Egrifta had two different types of tesa. One which came in 2mg which didn’t have a shelf life so was meant for one 2mg hit and done.
And the other which lasts a week at room temperature.

I will take a look to see if I can find it again…
 
Idk that report sounded confident at room temp for a week.... i cant see how else to do it? Unless you pin 10mg at once. Id use it in 5 days (2mg a day for 5 days)
 
What about sterility? The older versions of the brand name required immediate use. Anything left had to be thrown away.
Found this.... but also i read the pharma grade has something added to help preserve it at room temp. Think ill go with 2ml of bac and pin 40 units for m-f.... ill let ya know if i get a big fat nasty ass abscess.
 

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I’m not sure tbh?

I seen in an article that Egrifta had two different types of tesa. One which came in 2mg which didn’t have a shelf life so was meant for one 2mg hit and done.
And the other which lasts a week at room temperature.

I will take a look to see if I can find it again…
I posted screen shots and it mentioned the 2mg was to be used with sterile water but the bigger 11. Whatever was multi dose to be used with bac. Im gonna give it a go.
 
To me, the biggest problem is you are reconning at home, not in a sterile lab environment. So while the BAC water will help prevent growth, any bacteria from the recon (or from China) may still grow since room temperature is conducive for bacterial growth (despite the benzyl alcohol).
 
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To me, the biggest problem is you are reconning at home, not in a sterile lab environment. So while the BAC water will help prevent growth, any bacteria from the recon (or from China) may still break through the BAC water at room temperature.
I hear you but i am slightly retarded. Ill take one for the team.
 
I would feel comfortable with up to 48 hours. Maybe 72 hours if feeling less risk averse.

By day four, the bacteria would start growing at the maximum rate (log phase, as in exponential growth):

Google Gemini said:
Timeframe (Room Temp)Bacterial Growth StateEndotoxin AccumulationClinical Risk Level
Day 1Bacteriostatic InductionZero to TraceSafe
Day 2Lag Phase (Inhibited)MinimalLow
Day 3Late Lag PhaseTraceLow-Moderate
Day 4Early Log PhaseIncreasing (LPS shedding)Moderate
Day 5Log Phase (Exponential)SignificantSignificant Risk
Day 6Late Log PhaseHeavyHigh Risk
Day 7Stationary Phase (Death)Critical (Toxin Peak)Critical/Dangerous

Personally, I have never bought tesa, and I definitely won't now, lol. I am cycling between HGH and hexarelin, but, so far, I don't usually take any GH most of the time.
 
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Well now im thinking of pinning the vial in 3 days
Ha ha that was my thought after reading calm logics post!

Maybe 5mg of tesa vials could be the answer?
2mg mon - 2mg tue and maybe discard the last 1mg or combine it with the next 5mg vial so you’re taking 1mg from the 2nd vial and then left with 4mg….6 days of 2mg then and only one day off?
 
FWIW I have a vial of reconned Tesa in my case in the fridge that is almost 2 months old and it looks clear as the day I reconned it. No, I'm not taking it. Forgot to toss it and and this point its just a science experiment!
Im sure if jeep and wbs have shit tesa, most vendors do as well....they all drink from 2 spiggots. If you look at it say tirz 30.... 10 vendors will all have say orange caps and then theres a handful that will all have red caps.... my tesa was black caps from november but the batch was sep.
 
I'm starting on this protocol soon. Makes the case for 10mg vials.
@Calm Logic posted a chart with room temp peps with bac and it got ugly after 3 days with spreading bacteria... Wish @janoshik would say ur fine but imma kill that vial in 4 days cuz that was the threshold of where bacteria really grew exponentially. Well according to androids Gemini ai know it all..
 
Egrifta is not tesamorelin, they have different excipients, which makes a difference in bioavailability for egrifta.

Tesamorelin has barely any degradation when reconstituted with bac water, and stored in the fridge for 30 days. It starts degrading after 14 days if stored at room temp. There is a PTDS test that show these results, although il not allowed to show details.
 
Okay, so where would the contaminates be introduced? Wipe the vial off with alcohol, sick it in a clean, dark, box. FWIW, i do crazier shit than this. Typical disclaimer applies 😺
Imma pin it brother.... like it was chinese trenbolone with vegetable cooking oil instead of injectable oil. If i die, look after the Bride and my dog please....
 
Egrifta is not tesamorelin, they have different excipients, which makes a difference in bioavailability for egrifta.

Tesamorelin has barely any degradation when reconstituted with bac water, and stored in the fridge for 30 days. It starts degrading after 14 days if stored at room temp. There is a PTDS test that show these results, although il not allowed to show details.
What test are you talking about, and why aren't you allowed to show the details but you're allowed to tell us the test results here?
 
Thank you for answering. I wonder what the rationale is behind such rules, doesn't make a lot of sense to be honest.
Because they paid for the testing. If it was immediately shared with everyone, no one would pay in, theyd wait till the results are shared. So its common not to share results for 30 days.
 
Never had Tesa gel up over the two weeks I used it. Would adding Acetic Acid 0.6%, help prevent the gelling? I don't know the ph is supposed to be, if I were to do something like that. Don't feel like throwing those other vials out and I just bought some IGF-1 LR3, I have yet to use.
 
Egrifta is not tesamorelin, they have different excipients, which makes a difference in bioavailability for egrifta.

Tesamorelin has barely any degradation when reconstituted with bac water, and stored in the fridge for 30 days. It starts degrading after 14 days if stored at room temp. There is a PTDS test that show these results, although il not allowed to show details.
Going back to this 🙂 If this interpretation of that test is correct, it would imply that Egrifta - a commercial product, packs Tesamorelin with excipients that effectively make it have twice as short of a shelf life when reconstituted as opposed to grey market Tesamorelin.

I wonder what these Egrifta-specific excipients bring to the equation if the pharma company thought their usage was warranted despite the fact they make the end product more inconvenient for the patients.
 

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