Waclive
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Couple more questions:
How many steps per day are you averaging?
Are you doing any cardio along with the strength training?
Are you making gains on your lifts?
Reta 80-day progress (with photos)
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How many steps per day are you averaging?
Are you doing any cardio along with the strength training?
Are you making gains on your lifts?
No cardio atm
Steps at ~10k+ daily average
I'd say I saw some progress maybe 5 weeks ago and earlier, but not right now.
Some other meds really messed up with my perceived strength and well-being at the gym but now it's a lot better
Steps at ~10k+ daily average
I'd say I saw some progress maybe 5 weeks ago and earlier, but not right now.
Some other meds really messed up with my perceived strength and well-being at the gym but now it's a lot better
cygnus
GLP-1 Apprentice
I can absolutely assure you that it does work that way. You have multiple members trying earnestly to help you, but I do not think you want it. If it is a visual you seek in terms of leanness, the safer way to do it at your current weight is to train more frequently, a lot harder, closer to failure, increase your protein, and sleep. As your muscles increase in size, even if assuming no additional fat is lost, the distribution of that fat will look more diminished, as your muscles get greater accents.
? I apologize if you think I'm shaming you, that isn't my intent at all. Maybe a language difference.
I'm worried about how low your current weight is for your health as you have said you want to lose more weight. I'm trying to get you to understand that you are underweight and looking to lose even more. This is very dangerous for your health.
I'm not sure what else to say. I'm old enough to realize when someone isn't going to listen to anything I have to say. (This is most of the time.) Good luck.
cowboy54
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If you are looking to get bigger, start looking at compound lifts on the legs, upper body go for lifts that give the biggest stretch generally in the concentric phase.
For example you have straight bar tricep pushdown; change this to skull crushers on a bench, get that long stretch as you lower behind the head and push hard to get the arms straight (dont bring the weight forward so its over your head) say 45 degree angle above/behind your head and then slowly lower for the stretch. Go as heavy as you can for 3 sets of 10-12 reps
Standing cable lateral raise again get the stretch on the eccentric
up your protein to help muscle growth and recovery.
If you can get hold of a progressive overload workout that will help development
Waclive
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Based on what you shared, you need to increase calories, particularly protein. You should be about 140g of protein given your body weight. I would slowly increase the calories per meal. Add an extra 100 calories per meal for a few weeks and see if you have more energy. Your gauge is your strength. If you're getting stronger, then you're moving in the right directions.
I would change the workout a bit as well.
Do 1 compound exercise per workout with 5 sets at 8-12 reps per set. The goal is use a weight you can hit that rep range with while keeping 1 or 2 reps in reserve. Going to failure is okay too if you can do it safely. Longer rest periods in between each set. 2-3 mins. You don't want your heart rate too high or you'll send a endurance building signal instead of a muscle building signal. Include a core or secondary set for the working muscles. Example would be to combine the barbell bench press with incline dumbbell flies. Or for a core workout I choose hanging leg raises.
It's time to shift gears from cardio based training to strength based to build a base that will serve you in the later journey by increasing your metabolic rate by building muscle.
Eat your protein. Increase the calories. Work on building strength and you will see the changes you want to see.
Good luck on your journey and congrats on the progress you have made so far.
Congrats on your progress during your journey! I myself have had a difficult time judging what my body percent fat is based on scales and pictures so I have gotten bioelectrical impedance analysis. I suggest incorporating this or getting a DEXA scan so you have a way to determine if you are close to your goal of 10-11% body fat.
Thanks a lot! Bioelectrical was very inaccurate in my experience, it showed 10% when I was around 18% visually. I don't think 10% is barely visible abs 😀
Appreciate the help, but nowadays I tune the training to help my body fight hyperlordosis and other posture stuff. Lots of nuances to what is optimal and what is risky to do in my condition
foxgirl
GLP-1 Apprentice
A lot of REALLY good advice here, honestly. Keep an open mind.
Waclive
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Okay, that would have been paramount to know for giving good advise for your situation.
The focus for that should be on core strength; abdominal, glutes, and back extensors. Mobility work for the tight hips, which is usually a big cause for that condition. Things like planks, bridges, dead bugs, and 90/90s are good. Weighted side bends and hanging leg raises once you become more advanced.
More so than anything is doing strengthening exercises that don't cause pain. Regress if it's too much until you find what works for your level.
JoonyO
GLP-1 Enthusiast
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Waclive
GLP-1 Enthusiast
It's different from person to person and body type. Usually, 10% bf% on men is slightly visible abs on some and a little more definition on some. There's no one answer to fit everyone.
Pablito
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You look great mate, I don't think you need to lose more weight.
Consider what your goals are and where you want to get to. If you're training like that I assume you're looking to add muscle?You don't want to keep cutting if that's the case.
But seriously, you look good.
Consider what your goals are and where you want to get to. If you're training like that I assume you're looking to add muscle?You don't want to keep cutting if that's the case.
But seriously, you look good.
Have been on reta for the past year and doing weekly weights ( down 100lbs with 20 more to go). I have also been experimenting with the dose and adding a small amount of sema when I seemed to be stalling. Had GI side effects at the higher doses. Today asked AI to examine my numbers and to my surprise 6mg came out on top.
6mg weekly averaged 4.07 lbs per week
4mg averaged 4 lbs
7mg averaged 2.8 lbs
10mg averaged 2 lbs
4mg reta + 500ug sema 1.9
8 mg averaged 1.7
all other doses were even less including 12mg
6mg weekly averaged 4.07 lbs per week
4mg averaged 4 lbs
7mg averaged 2.8 lbs
10mg averaged 2 lbs
4mg reta + 500ug sema 1.9
8 mg averaged 1.7
all other doses were even less including 12mg
DrPEPr
GLP-1 Enthusiast
First of all (having read your intro): Good job man!
I bet you're already pretty damn close to your goal of 10-11%.
Based on your length and weight my guess would be 12%
The fact that you don't see visible abs (btw. I see them...) is a/. genetics and b/. that they might be underdeveloped.
You might be able to get them more defined by cutting down to sub 10% , but you're going feel absolutely miserable. BF <10% without enhancement (i.e. roids) It's just not sustainable. /trustmebro>
If I had to coach you in your goals (having visible abs) : go into a lean bulk (200-300 above maintenance) for about a year, keep training hard (perhaps lay a little focus on your abs) and then cut down again for 3-4 months.
ps. Those BF reference pictures are next to worthless. The context is completely missing (most of these men might even be enhanced) and the lighting is terrible for an A-B comparison.
If you want confirmation of your current status: do a dexa scan instead.
-Cheers
I bet you're already pretty damn close to your goal of 10-11%.
Based on your length and weight my guess would be 12%
The fact that you don't see visible abs (btw. I see them...) is a/. genetics and b/. that they might be underdeveloped.
You might be able to get them more defined by cutting down to sub 10% , but you're going feel absolutely miserable. BF <10% without enhancement (i.e. roids) It's just not sustainable. /trustmebro>
If I had to coach you in your goals (having visible abs) : go into a lean bulk (200-300 above maintenance) for about a year, keep training hard (perhaps lay a little focus on your abs) and then cut down again for 3-4 months.
ps. Those BF reference pictures are next to worthless. The context is completely missing (most of these men might even be enhanced) and the lighting is terrible for an A-B comparison.
If you want confirmation of your current status: do a dexa scan instead.
-Cheers
Hambocommando
GLP-1 Apprentice
People are just trying to help you, my man. What you've got going on is what we women call 'skinny fat'. You are lean, but you need more weight/more definition to get where you want. I don't think any increase of Reta will help, just more work on actual muscle definition and presence.
Admittedly, I'm a fatty fat mcfatbody, but I've got enough experience to know that it's not a weight thing now and it's not fat. It's bulk that you need. I don't mean like...body builder bulk. I just mean more strength. That takes time and effort but even an increase of 10lbs on a personal best can show physically.
Admittedly, I'm a fatty fat mcfatbody, but I've got enough experience to know that it's not a weight thing now and it's not fat. It's bulk that you need. I don't mean like...body builder bulk. I just mean more strength. That takes time and effort but even an increase of 10lbs on a personal best can show physically.
BinaryPinecone
GLP-1 Apprentice
Would you mind checking your body fat % using the navy method? It just requires two measurements and you can find it by just searching body fat calculator online. I just really hate it when people try to eye gauge body fat when there is a literal formula that does relatively accurately at your stats. Also, good work on the progress and keep chasing that low bf%!
RoadRash
GLP-1 Apprentice
Just an fyi, you are comparing yourself to guys with a lot more muscle mass than you. You seem to be lean enough, I think it'd be beneficial to eat more protein and get to the gym 4 days a week and train hard if you want that sort of muscle definition.
Hey, appreciate your input! For now, I'm sticking to my plan. Three more months to cut and only then 'maingain' for multiple months.
I started doing ab/core training seriously and it's much better now. I'm just not lean enough, it's simple as that
Why would you bring gender to this discussion it's weird lol.
Trust me, I know this game:
1) Obese people mad that my before photo is their goal weight
2) Obese people mad that I use GLP1 (it's 'unfair' according to their childish world view)
3) Obese people delusional enough to think that they are top-level bodybuilders under their fat layer (in reality their size comes from excess weight only, they never leaned down to the appropriate condition to see how weak and frail they actually are)
Hope this helps and good luck on your weight loss journey!!!
lessthanhalf
GLP-1 Specialist
The biggest difference between obese people using GLP peptides to lose and maintain weight is that in that case the effects have proven health benefits, and those benefits outweigh the risks when the person taking them is obese.
People taking them who are not overweight is not the same. In general I do not believe there is anything wrong with taking them for cosmetic reasons, but the same medical logic of risks vs benefits is not the same. There are essentially no or minimal long term health benefits in taking GLP medications in people who are not overweight - maybe eventually research might say otherwise, but at this stage it has not even been tested.
The risks of taking these medications is not zero, pancreatitis, gallstones, NAION etc and they are likely to be similar in non overweight populations, the problem is the lack of proven health benefits to cancel out those risks in people using them for cosmetic reasons, so the net health effect is just the risks, so the overall health effects are negative not positive, and this is a big difference. In general with a few exceptions Doctors are not going to prescribe them for non overweight persons precisely for those risks.
So long as you understand that taking GLP peptides, or any others that bodybuilders use like hgh or Androgens are a net health risk and you chose to take that risk, then that is your choice as far as I am concerned. People do end up in situations where high doses of these are used long term , with significant risks to health and no amount of dosing or training will fix the problem if body dysmorphia is the underlying issue. Not saying this is necessarily the case here, but you do seem to be disputing anyone else's assessment of your body fat, so it is definitely possible.
Society in general does consider using GLP's in persons who are not overweight, but more so non replacement dose androgens as cheating, . To the point where they are illegal with significant penalties for their use, sales or importation nearly everywhere. Presumably something to with high strength/size being a dominance signal in males, and increasing this artificially is a dishonest signal?
This is a forum for GLP's, it says so in the title. So most people here are here because they are, or even better, were overweight or obese. And yes, people taking these medications who are not overweight could easily be seen in a pretty negative light , and I think if you want to use this forum you need to understand that for many people here these are life saving drugs, for a problem they have had all their life and that society has judged and treated them badly because of it, and from that point of view getting annoyed at someone skinny complaining about being fat is not entirely unreasonable.
randompersonrandom
GLP-1 Specialist
This is a weird thread. At no point did I know what the next post would say. I'm excited to read how it all turns out, but I can't assign a rating yet.
OregonSunshine
GLP-1 Apprentice
Inquiring minds want to know if it will end up on your 'Most Recent Drama Read' (tm).
randompersonrandom
GLP-1 Specialist
I am as curious as anyone else. Lots of them don't ever actually devolve into a rateable read. And sometimes, as soon as I appear and seem interested in its development, it either drops dead or goes super civil. Which I guess makes my ghoulish interest in drama threads arguably a force for good.
Hambocommando
GLP-1 Apprentice
Sorry if the inclusion of gender seemed weird, but I've only ever heard women use the phrase "skinny fat". Maybe there's men that use it too! But I haven't heard it. It's cute that you think everyone falls into one of those 3 classifications, but none of them include "People just really want to help me get to my goal." A) I'm not jealous of your before photo. Even obese, I could snap you like a twig. B) I don't care if you use GLP1s, and I'm glad they trimmed you down like you want. C) I have been in top level physical fitness and trained others in the military to achieve higher fitness levels. I've never been weak and frail, even when obese. My weight gain came about because of severe injuries due to an accident and a multi-year inability to move.
I hope you figure out how to get the results you want and learn to listen people that may have some advice of value.
I guess if you diet hard enough you will get bullied by fat people as well, right? 😂
I don’t need your permission to post here nor any guidance , who are you?
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1) I was talking specifically about toxic people who belittle any form of progress. Not everyone . It’s funny that you think I was implying you. Makes you wonder
2) Never ever in this thread I said I needed any kind of help or advice. It’s all unwanted, I’ve been polite to polite people.
This is a definitely the oddest thread I’ve seen in a while. Not sure how much more bizarre it is gonna get.
lessthanhalf
GLP-1 Specialist
No you do not need my permission, but perhaps you might be better using a forum more oriented to the issues you are concerned about like Meso. But there you might experience actual bullying.
The reasons for posting progress pics on a forum like this and then criticising people who respond
1. You want people to say how well you have done - why criticise the responses?
2. You do want advice about what to do next - why criticise the responses?
3. You are seeking attention and conflict.
I do not see any evidence of bullying in the responses here, except perhaps your one where you make a whole bunch of moderately offensive statements about "obese people" in a forum primarily for obese people using or wanting information about GLP drugs.
People expressing legitimate concern about the possibility of body dysmorphia issues are not bullying you, they are expressing concern.
I think expecting you to take into account the forum you are on and what its purpose is and who its users are is entirely reasonable. What you were doing is kind of like posting on Meso about stupid meat heads.
