Reta trials. Subject #007

I have the 31g down great now for actual blasting day, but no way for mixing.
 
toologic said:
Yes "all of them" except 2 since I don't have that organ in my body. I don't have to explain or rationalize with my doctor either and I've had the same MD for many moons. Having a functional MD isn't the same as a PCP. The functional MD's cost more up front but can be worth it for the right one.
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In my experience, any lab ordered at my annual physical is "covered" by my insurance (although admittedly, I haven't pushed this very far to test the limit there). Where I get hosed is that only "preventative" labs get paid by my insurance before I meet my deductible. Any lab that could be rationalized as being even loosely related to my diabetes diagnosis (in other words, just about every lab) is subject to my deductible before being covered. This is because they're no longer considered preventative and now are supposedly related to disease management. Since I have a HDHP and I'll never hit my deductible that means I'm footing the bill for them at the inflated rate my insurance and clinic agreed upon.

As they've figured out a way to get my out of pocket on the labs to over $500 for 6 basic labs, I guess that means this year I'm moving all of the "routine" ones to cash pay with a private lab (which will bring the cost down to under $100 for me and give me whatever minor satisfaction comes with knowing I'm cutting into my clinic's revenue by some small amount).
 
toologic said:
Yes "all of them" except 2 since I don't have that organ in my body. I don't have to explain or rationalize with my doctor either and I've had the same MD for many moons. Having a functional MD isn't the same as a PCP. The functional MD's cost more up front but can be worth it for the right one.
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tubby said:
In my experience, any lab ordered at my annual physical is "covered" by my insurance (although admittedly, I haven't pushed this very far to test the limit there). Where I get hosed is that only "preventative" labs get paid by my insurance before I meet my deductible. Any lab that could be rationalized as being even loosely related to my diabetes diagnosis (in other words, just about every lab) is subject to my deductible before being covered. This is because they're no longer considered preventative and now are supposedly related to disease management. Since I have a HDHP and I'll never hit my deductible that means I'm footing the bill for them at the inflated rate my insurance and clinic agreed upon.

As they've figured out a way to get my out of pocket on the labs to over $500 for 6 basic labs, I guess that means this year I'm moving all of the "routine" ones to cash pay with a private lab (which will bring the cost down to under $100 for me and give me whatever minor satisfaction comes with knowing I'm cutting into my clinic's revenue by some small amount).
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I would love to have a functional doctor or PCP that was cash only and I could text. I don’t have that so far so I’m my own primary care. I may change TRT providers to one that will file with insurance but that’s also only a grand a year.


I also have a HDHP… I may make my deductible this year if they approve a Rx for EoE. I doubt they will but the doctor is pretty pumped to get me on it which is kinda weird. If it gets approved I’ll run the numbers and change my plan next year assuming it’ll be cheaper overall to go with a lower deductible/higher premium.

I’ll still gladly pay out of pocket for my labs to avoid having to go to a clinic/office and deal with that scheduling.
 
LOL, with all of the specialists that I see:
  • Cardiologist
  • Electrophysiologist
  • Rheumatologist
  • Nephrologist
  • Sleep Doctor
  • Endocrinologist
  • Orthopedic Surgeon (degenerative spine)
I have no trouble getting lab requests. Especially since these silly providers do not share results.

But, a growing benefit of taking GLP-1 medications is that I see these specialists less and less. My every three month schedule for most of them is now Yearly because of my dramatic improvement in all the things.
 
QueenMuntha said:
LOL, with all of the specialists that I see:
  • Cardiologist
  • Lung Guy
  • Orthopedic Surgeon (degenerative spine)
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I have these. First for the AFIB the pneumonia gave me. I had extremely bad double, double pneumonia that almost ended me, show that's the lung guy, Pulmonary doctor I think and the Ortho guy for replacement parts. Only a shoulder so far.
 
chipsandsalsayall said:
Following. If helpful: Don't go lowball on syringes, I didn't recognize the brand you mentioned. I use Easy-Touch and Sure-Comfort.
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Honestly might give those a try. I wasn’t exactly happy with these needles. I would like to get some that are luer lock so that I can have a thicker gauge needle for the draw and a thinner gauge needle for the injection
 
Ok yall got in late today from work, but the scale came in. My weight is currently 401 pounds. My first goal will be 350, after that 300. I haven’t been under 300 for quite some time now so I will be setting a new goal from there.

I still have not noticed anything from Reta, but as was mentioned earlier in this thread I am probably on too small of a dose. I do plan on taking my doses every 5 days, which would place my next injection on Wednesday. I see a lot of different schedules, some 5, others 6 or 7 days. What are you doing? Have you tried switching between the schedules? If so what schedule worked best for you?
 
ChubbyOp said:
Ok yall got in late today from work, but the scale came in. My weight is currently 401 pounds. My first goal will be 350, after that 300. I haven’t been under 300 for quite some time now so I will be setting a new goal from there.

I still have not noticed anything from Reta, but as was mentioned earlier in this thread I am probably on too small of a dose. I do plan on taking my doses every 5 days, which would place my next injection on Wednesday. I see a lot of different schedules, some 5, others 6 or 7 days. What are you doing? Have you tried switching between the schedules? If so what schedule worked best for you?
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I split dose for efficacy, I do Monday ~night/Friday morning for convenience and reduced mental load. I do test MWF.

Schedules are easy to track in Shotsy, but MF is simple and there’s nothing for me to practically gain from other splits.
 
ChubbyOp said:
Honestly might give those a try. I wasn’t exactly happy with these needles. I would like to get some that are luer lock so that I can have a thicker gauge needle for the draw and a thinner gauge needle for the injection
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Do what you want, obviously, but that’s unneeded. It’s more expense, and more hassle for water based peptides with minimal to no practical benefit.
 
ChubbyOp said:
Honestly might give those a try. I wasn’t exactly happy with these needles. I would like to get some that are luer lock so that I can have a thicker gauge needle for the draw and a thinner gauge needle for the injection
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Had thought about too, but said, nope. I can draw just fine with a 31g.
woundcarping said:
Do what you want, obviously, but that’s unneeded. It’s more expense, and more hassle for water based peptides with minimal to no practical benefit.
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I too, threw that idea out after just a few thoughts.
 
BNLFL said:
Had thought about too, but said, nope. I can draw just fine with a 31g.

I too, threw that idea out after just a few thoughts.
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I guess I’m just new to using syringes. It almost seemed like the needle was going to bend and break off while drawing. Unless that’s just a problem with the specific 30g syringes I have
 
ChubbyOp said:
I guess I’m just new to using syringes. It almost seemed like the needle was going to bend and break off while drawing. Unless that’s just a problem with the specific 30g syringes I have
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You need to go dead center on the vial. If you bend one, trash it. Push the peptides back in though.
 
ChubbyOp said:
I got some 1 Ml syringes with 30Ga needles for injections and 3 Ml syringes with 23 ga needles for recon. A friend of mine started at 2 Mg and he was miserable, and a mutual friend of ours started at 2 mg was perfectly fine. I decided based off of my experience with the other glps I was going to split the difference and go with 1 mg. As of right now (day 2) I haven’t noticed anything out of the ordinary and no reaction at the injection site, so I will probably stick with this does for the next month.
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I started .5 for 4 weeks, then .75 for 4 weeks, 1 for 4 weeks and recently went to 1.5. Hugeee difference once I did 1.5.
 
weightlossking84 said:
I started .5 for 4 weeks, then .75 for 4 weeks, 1 for 4 weeks and recently went to 1.5. Hugeee difference once I did 1.5.
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I was originally going to go up to 2, but maybe after my 4 weeks I’ll try doing 1.5. After today I still have 2 more weeks on 1
 
So little update. Life has been hectic. I am down 10 pounds. Doses 1-3 were at 1mg (every 5 days). Dose number 4 was 1.5mg. The only side I noticed was slightly more heartburn. I haven’t been to the gym but I’ve been working the ground a lot lately so I’ve been around 12-13000 steps a day not including the heavy lifting of various rigging. My house primarily eats chicken and turkey since my wife doesn’t do well with red meat. I don’t count calories but I prioritize protein and make sure my carbs come from primarily veggies. This last dose (thur 14th) I took a risk and jumped to 2.5mg. 0/10 wouldn’t recommend. I know slow and steady wins the race but curiosity killed the cat. Spent two days in pain and on the toilet. I’ve been fighting to keep my hydration up. Lost 8 pounds in two days. I’m feeling better now so primarily focusing on hydration and recouping minerals I’ve lost
 
tubby said:
In my experience, any lab ordered at my annual physical is "covered" by my insurance (although admittedly, I haven't pushed this very far to test the limit there). Where I get hosed is that only "preventative" labs get paid by my insurance before I meet my deductible. Any lab that could be rationalized as being even loosely related to my diabetes diagnosis (in other words, just about every lab) is subject to my deductible before being covered. This is because they're no longer considered preventative and now are supposedly related to disease management. Since I have a HDHP and I'll never hit my deductible that means I'm footing the bill for them at the inflated rate my insurance and clinic agreed upon.

As they've figured out a way to get my out of pocket on the labs to over $500 for 6 basic labs, I guess that means this year I'm moving all of the "routine" ones to cash pay with a private lab (which will bring the cost down to under $100 for me and give me whatever minor satisfaction comes with knowing I'm cutting into my clinic's revenue by some small amount).
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I mean TBH, Function Health is a pretty dang good deal if they have the labs that you're interested in plus a couple hundred others.
 
ChubbyOp said:
So little update. Life has been hectic. I am down 10 pounds. Doses 1-3 were at 1mg (every 5 days). Dose number 4 was 1.5mg. The only side I noticed was slightly more heartburn. I haven’t been to the gym but I’ve been working the ground a lot lately so I’ve been around 12-13000 steps a day not including the heavy lifting of various rigging. My house primarily eats chicken and turkey since my wife doesn’t do well with red meat. I don’t count calories but I prioritize protein and make sure my carbs come from primarily veggies. This last dose (thur 14th) I took a risk and jumped to 2.5mg. 0/10 wouldn’t recommend. I know slow and steady wins the race but curiosity killed the cat. Spent two days in pain and on the toilet. I’ve been fighting to keep my hydration up. Lost 8 pounds in two days. I’m feeling better now so primarily focusing on hydration and recouping minerals I’ve lost
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Congratulations, Mr. Bond. [Subject #007], I'll try your routine.
 
ChubbyOp said:
So little update. Life has been hectic. I am down 10 pounds. Doses 1-3 were at 1mg (every 5 days). Dose number 4 was 1.5mg. The only side I noticed was slightly more heartburn. I haven’t been to the gym but I’ve been working the ground a lot lately so I’ve been around 12-13000 steps a day not including the heavy lifting of various rigging. My house primarily eats chicken and turkey since my wife doesn’t do well with red meat. I don’t count calories but I prioritize protein and make sure my carbs come from primarily veggies. This last dose (thur 14th) I took a risk and jumped to 2.5mg. 0/10 wouldn’t recommend. I know slow and steady wins the race but curiosity killed the cat. Spent two days in pain and on the toilet. I’ve been fighting to keep my hydration up. Lost 8 pounds in two days. I’m feeling better now so primarily focusing on hydration and recouping minerals I’ve lost
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8lbs in two days is to much. 2.5mg made you lose it, in pain and pooping?
 
ChubbyOp said:
So little update. Life has been hectic. I am down 10 pounds. Doses 1-3 were at 1mg (every 5 days). Dose number 4 was 1.5mg. The only side I noticed was slightly more heartburn. I haven’t been to the gym but I’ve been working the ground a lot lately so I’ve been around 12-13000 steps a day not including the heavy lifting of various rigging. My house primarily eats chicken and turkey since my wife doesn’t do well with red meat. I don’t count calories but I prioritize protein and make sure my carbs come from primarily veggies. This last dose (thur 14th) I took a risk and jumped to 2.5mg. 0/10 wouldn’t recommend. I know slow and steady wins the race but curiosity killed the cat. Spent two days in pain and on the toilet. I’ve been fighting to keep my hydration up. Lost 8 pounds in two days. I’m feeling better now so primarily focusing on hydration and recouping minerals I’ve lost
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Not everyone can go up as fast. Everyone reacts differently. Maybe go back down to 2 next time or even back to 1.5 or 1.75. Since it was so much worse for you maybe go up by .5mg each increase to not take a chance. Hope you're feeling better!!
 
Smiter said:
Congratulations, Mr. Bond. [Subject #007], I'll try your routine.
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Honestly I should have stuck with 2mg for a while. I have been losing a steady 2.5 lbs a week and am perfectly happy with that
 
BNLFL said:
8lbs in two days is to much. 2.5mg made you lose it, in pain and pooping?
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Absolutely way too much haha. Pain, and I turned myself into a fountain. I was doing as much as I could to at minimum keep fluids in but I’m very dehydrated right now. I’m using pedialyte to help replenish my electrolytes right now
 
WLBLD said:
Not everyone can go up as fast. Everyone reacts differently. Maybe go back down to 2 next time or even back to 1.5 or 1.75. Since it was so much worse for you maybe go up by .5mg each increase to not take a chance. Hope you're feeling better!!
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My plan is to go back down to 1.5 for the next dose and ride that for a month depending on how my weigh-ins go. I’m trying to make this a marathon not a race
 
ChubbyOp said:
My plan is to go back down to 1.5 for the next dose and ride that for a month depending on how my weigh-ins go. I’m trying to make this a marathon not a race
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I personally think 4 weeks a new dose is great, and follow it close. I currently on 8 going up the scale. Only different was 6mg, I did 7 weeks because it was doing great. Next was 7mg for only 2 weeks and not much happening on that. Weigh day is next Friday, and I'll see how the 8mg is doing. I can now feel what's happening with these shots. Absolutely no side effects for a week and a half, even on pin day.
 
ChubbyOp said:
My plan is to go back down to 1.5 for the next dose and ride that for a month depending on how my weigh-ins go. I’m trying to make this a marathon not a race
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You definitely dont need to rush it or get sick like that again! 🙂
 
Pin day! I gave it 6 days to bring my residual down to hopefully around 1.25mg and took a 2mg dose. That was at 5:30am this morning and am feeling fine now but tomorrow will be the real test. The scale read 388 (fasted) so that would put me at 14lbs lost in 26 days. Don’t worry I learned my lesson I’m not jumping doses like that again. And for those who haven’t started Reta yet, I urge you to read my last update and take that into consideration
 
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