RFK Jr. and GLP-1s

White suburban women may have voted him into office but touch their ozempic or their diet coke and I think you are gonna have problems.
I think you mean white men. Yeah, there were also a significant portion of EVERY sex and race demographic that voted for him. None of those identities are purely intelligent/ moral/ pragmatic.

But I do silently laugh at my fellow suburban white women who are paying a 5,000% markup on their GLP1s while trying to gatekeep it from X type of people whom they claim don’t need/ deserve it.
 
the good news is that it looks like the senate doesn't have the votes for a recess, so these trump appointments will all be getting grilled by the senate. the problem is, there's just so many terrible appointments (take your pick between gabbard, gaetz, rfk, etc) that it's unlikely we'll be able to stop them all.
Devyn - here’s hoping you work on the Hill and have an inside view on this. I can find no senator publicly stating how they would vote to recess. Furthermore, any president can adjourn either body of Congress. I still think they have to go out for at least 10 days for appointments, isn’t that true?
 
Devyn - here’s hoping you work on the Hill and have an inside view on this. I can find no senator publicly stating how they would vote to recess. Furthermore, any president can adjourn either body of Congress. I still think they have to go out for at least 10 days for appointments, isn’t that true?
i'm not on the hill, just a concerned american with a vested interest in retaining some shred of democracy over the next 4 years like you.

it sounds like if trump really wants to get his dictator on, he can indeed push through his nominations if he wants but the cost would be insane PR wise. he'd burn a lot of republican bridges in the senate and house but who knows if that even matters in this upside down populist cult world that we live in now.
 
I'm a partisan guy with strong political opinions, however, I hope to keep this site nonpolitical. Basically, I just don't people who used to get along on the site fighting over politics. If you hate Trump, you'll focus on RFK Jr.'s comments about GLP-1 drugs for weight loss being bad. If you love Trump, you'll focus on RFK's comments about the FDA needs to stop regulating peptides. I'll offer my opinion that while possible changes from a new Trump administration could be good or bad for us, there is no clear answer as to how he'll affect access to GLP-1 drugs obtained through the gray market.
 
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I'm going to keep this comment politically neutral, but from what I've seen from him personally, my take on RFK Jr and peptides is that he seems to think peptides are a good thing if you're fit and want to get jacked (I'd bet money he's using HGH :ROFLMAO: ), but that he looks at GLPs with disdain, and thinks "clean food", exercise and a clean environment are what overweight people need.
Yeah well Ive been doing that for years and it hasnt helped
 
i'm not on the hill, just a concerned american with a vested interest in retaining some shred of democracy over the next 4 years like you.

it sounds like if trump really wants to get his dictator on, he can indeed push through his nominations if he wants but the cost would be insane PR wise. he'd burn a lot of republican bridges in the senate and house but who knows if that even matters in this upside down populist cult world that we live in now.
democracy is what we just had with the vote. i get irritated that every decision ends up in some court somewhere and the plaintiff is always good at judge shopping.
 
democracy is what we just had with the vote. i get irritated that every decision ends up in some court somewhere and the plaintiff is always good at judge shopping.
Circumventing checks and balances with recess appointments is not democracy just because the person that does it was voted into office. Democracy involves honoring the institutions, not just getting into office and then having a free for all by working loopholes and technicalities to circumvent democratic processes.
 
Circumventing checks and balances with recess appointments is not democracy just because the person that does it was voted into office. Democracy involves honoring the institutions, not just getting into office and then having a free for all by working loopholes and technicalities to circumvent democratic processes.
We live in a constitutional republic. Not a democracy. These representatives need to honor the constitution whether they find it to be convenient or not.
 
I think it’s best if we leave it there. I shouldn’t have been participating in political chit chat but it was too enticing. It’s not a good idea to have politics here so hopefully we can stick just to expected outcomes as they relate to peptides specifically in an extremely narrow sense. Sorry for my failure on this.
 
I think it’s best if we leave it there. I shouldn’t have been participating in political chit chat but it was too enticing. It’s not a good idea to have politics here so hopefully we can stick just to expected outcomes as they relate to peptides specifically in an extremely narrow sense. Sorry for my failure on this.
Respect.
 
I think it’s best if we leave it there. I shouldn’t have been participating in political chit chat but it was too enticing. It’s not a good idea to have politics here so hopefully we can stick just to expected outcomes as they relate to peptides specifically in an extremely narrow sense. Sorry for my failure on this.
Peptides are probably one of the few things that unite people across the political spectrum these days. That and the dream of Mike Tyson knocking out Jake Paul :ROFLMAO:
 
I think it’s best if we leave it there. I shouldn’t have been participating in political chit chat but it was too enticing. It’s not a good idea to have politics here so hopefully we can stick just to expected outcomes as they relate to peptides specifically in an extremely narrow sense. Sorry for my failure on this.
We should... but a reminder... just because the media is supposing recess appointments does not mean it will happen that way.
 
Circumventing checks and balances with recess appointments is not democracy just because the person that does it was voted into office. Democracy involves honoring the institutions, not just getting into office and then having a free for all by working loopholes and technicalities to circumvent democratic processes.
Researchers doing research: Here is the legality of it all, per Wiki:

In the United States, a recess appointment is an appointment by the president of a federal official when the U.S. Senate is in recess. Under the U.S. Constitution's Appointments Clause, the president is empowered to nominate, and with the advice and consent (confirmation) of the Senate, make appointments to high-level policy-making positions in federal departments, agencies, boards, and commissions, as well as to the federal judiciary. A recess appointment under Article II, Section 2, Clause 3 of the Constitution is an alternative method of appointing officials that allows the temporary filling of offices during periods when the Senate is not in session. It was anticipated that the Senate would be away for months at a time, so the ability to fill vacancies in important positions when the Senate is in recess and unavailable to provide advice and consent was deemed essential to maintain government function, as described by Alexander Hamilton in No. 67 of The Federalist Papers.

In modern times, the Senate is in session nearly year-round, making the recess appointment mechanism far less necessary or useful for upkeep of government function. Nonetheless, in recent times this power has also been controversially used as a political tool to temporarily install an unpopular nominee by sidestepping the Senate's role in the confirmation process;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recess_appointment#cite_note-CRS-Hogue-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a> the Senate has taken measures from time to time to prevent a president from making recess appointments, specifically by holding pro forma sessions. The Supreme Court affirmed that pro forma sessions are sufficient to prevent recess appointments and addressed other intricacies of the practice in NLRB v. Noel Canning (2014). Appointments made during a recess must be confirmed by the Senate by the end of the next session of Congress, or the appointment expires. In current practice, this means that a recess appointment must be approved by roughly the end of the next calendar year and thus could last for almost two years, if made early enough in the year. In situations where a recess appointment is prevented, a lower official frequently assumes the duties of the position in an acting role.
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Checks and balances....ideally sounds great and what we all want, but we must admit it has become partisan obstruction.

Let's take a look at other recess appointments:

President Ronald Reagan ma[king] 240 recess appointments [during his time in office], [and] President George H. W. Bush ma[king] 77 recess appointments.

President William J. Clinton made 139 recess appointments [during his presidency], 95 to full-time positions and 44 to part-time positions. President George W. Bush made 171 recess appointments, 99 to full-time positions and 72 to part-time positions.

President Barack Obama made 32 recess appointments (through February 1, 2015), all to full-time positions.

It's legal and here is the precedent.

I too would like to keep politics out of this forum. So I provide our readers with just a few facts.....a few tidbits to "increase our knowledge".......real and true.......just like our RS dosages, our reconstitution ratios, and objectivity regarding third party testing of things......for our mutual benefit and harm reduction.
 
Not to wade too far into it, but no one is saying recess appointments in general are illegal or without precedent.

Directly going against congress for high level positions like cabinet members is, from my understanding, something with incredibly limited precedent.
 
Exploitedworkerbee said that recess appointments today violate our time-honored "checks and balances", but this is not new at all. It goes back several administrations.

And it doesn't "directly go against Congress." It's what every President does........they get elected and then they appoint/nominate their own Cabinet.
 
I don't think this conversation will be productive without further straying into partisanship.

https://archive.is/JsOvk explains the legal differences here vs. the sort of recess appointment you are talking about. Either it will convince you or it won't, but it is the crux of the argument and not a ploy that has ever been attempted before.
 

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