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Yeah, I’m done with this place. lol

The way you guys respond to anyone even mentioning Alexa is just wild. I get being skeptical, but acting like every single person talking about him is a shill? Come on. My post that got deleted objectively wasn’t shilling--I just shared my experience as a customer. Didn’t hype him up, didn’t even defend him (I literally said what he did with the NAD+ was fucked up), and still got treated like some idiot plant. That proves to me this "bad blood" you all have isn’t about Alexa--it’s about you and whatever grudge you’re holding against Cain.

I’ve never even talked to Cain and I hang out in his Telegram all the time. I've never not a single time seen anyone encourage anyone else to tell anyone about Alexa at all. No one has ever been incentivized to talk about Alexa... I use his stuff, it works for me. Doesn’t work for you? Cool. But the way you go after anyone who disagrees makes this whole place look like a literal joke. People talk about it all the time (not in the Alexa TG, either), a weird vendetta this whole forum has against one guy over something that happened forever ago and no one is even clear on what the gripe is. What, he didn’t give you his government name? What else do you want, his social security number? It’s legit bat shit crazy. I mean, you deleted my original reply because I "didn't introduce myself!" like bro what in the absolute fuck? You expect me to give you my A/S/L so we can all talk about the illegally imported and non-FDA approved peptides that we shoot up when this is a public forum that anyone can see without an account? The sheer stupidity of it is actually mind boggling.

And if you really hate "Alexa shills," then why would you ban all talk about him on a forum made for discussing vendors and their products? Seems to me like you would want people to steer clear and encourage talk about how poor of a vendor he is (which would call the supposed shills and you could be like, see!) and by supplying more evidence than "I talked to him one time and he was kinda sketch!" But any mention of him is scrubbed and sanitized which even if he was a poor vendor doesn't do anyone any good...

I came here looking for alternative vendors to Alexa, not to defend him at all (neither times I've posted), but how am I supposed to take anything anyone here says seriously when I know his stuff is good (because I use it), and all you do is trash it like it’s some scam without offering legitimate gripes.. Like what? His vials have overfill? He uses PayPal and you think that's stupid? From the testing circles I'm in Alexa is tested more than any other friggin vendor I've seen and it doesn't even come close. If there was an issue with his products everyone would know about it and I wouldn't be buying from him either.

People aren’t as dumb as you're letting on. If his products were bad, they wouldn’t sell. But they do. And I think that’s what really bothers you. That your old beef doesn’t matter to anyone else, and it drives you nuts that people won’t hate him just because you do.

It’s embarrassing for you and I feel like this is gonna fall on deaf ears, but so be it I guess. I came here to learn about peptides and instead you completely shut down any and all want for me to be here and contribute because I had the balls to say "I've used Alexa and they're fine for me."

like wtf.
 
From the testing circles I'm in Alexa is tested more than any other friggin vendor I've seen and it doesn't even come close. If there was an issue with his products everyone would know about it and I wouldn't be buying from him either.
Sterility becomes an issue with foreign matter in vials or melted (moisturized) NAD+.

It’s embarrassing for you and I feel like this is gonna fall on deaf ears, but so be it I guess. I came here to learn about peptides and instead you completely shut down any and all want for me to be here and contribute because I had the balls to say "I've used Alexa and they're fine for me."
Cain practically launched a spam war against this forum. So there's that.
 
Yeah, I’m done with this place. lol
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Yeah, I’m done with this place. lol

The way you guys respond to anyone even mentioning texaco is just wild. I get being skeptical, but acting like every single person talking about him is a shill? Come on. My post that got deleted objectively wasn’t shilling--I just shared my experience as a customer. Didn’t hype him up, didn’t even defend him (I literally said what he did with the NAD+ was fucked up), and still got treated like some idiot plant. That proves to me this "bad blood" you all have isn’t about texaco--it’s about you and whatever grudge you’re holding against Cain.

I’ve never even talked to Cain and I hang out in his Telegram all the time. I've never not a single time seen anyone encourage anyone else to tell anyone about texaco at all. No one has ever been incentivized to talk about texaco... I use his stuff, it works for me. Doesn’t work for you? Cool. But the way you go after anyone who disagrees makes this whole place look like a literal joke. People talk about it all the time (not in the texaco TG, either), a weird vendetta this whole forum has against one guy over something that happened forever ago and no one is even clear on what the gripe is. What, he didn’t give you his government name? What else do you want, his social security number? It’s legit bat shit crazy. I mean, you deleted my original reply because I "didn't introduce myself!" like bro what in the absolute fuck? You expect me to give you my A/S/L so we can all talk about the illegally imported and non-FDA approved peptides that we shoot up when this is a public forum that anyone can see without an account? The sheer stupidity of it is actually mind boggling.

And if you really hate "texaco shills," then why would you ban all talk about him on a forum made for discussing vendors and their products? Seems to me like you would want people to steer clear and encourage talk about how poor of a vendor he is (which would call the supposed shills and you could be like, see!) and by supplying more evidence than "I talked to him one time and he was kinda sketch!" But any mention of him is scrubbed and sanitized which even if he was a poor vendor doesn't do anyone any good...

I came here looking for alternative vendors to texaco, not to defend him at all (neither times I've posted), but how am I supposed to take anything anyone here says seriously when I know his stuff is good (because I use it), and all you do is trash it like it’s some scam without offering legitimate gripes.. Like what? His vials have overfill? He uses PayPal and you think that's stupid? From the testing circles I'm in texaco is tested more than any other friggin vendor I've seen and it doesn't even come close. If there was an issue with his products everyone would know about it and I wouldn't be buying from him either.

People aren’t as dumb as you're letting on. If his products were bad, they wouldn’t sell. But they do. And I think that’s what really bothers you. That your old beef doesn’t matter to anyone else, and it drives you nuts that people won’t hate him just because you do.

It’s embarrassing for you and I feel like this is gonna fall on deaf ears, but so be it I guess. I came here to learn about peptides and instead you completely shut down any and all want for me to be here and contribute because I had the balls to say "I've used texaco and they're fine for me."

like wtf.
all these people that complain about cain have been ripped off by a china vendor so they can save a few bucks and get ran off on every 6 months or a year froma china vendor
Ive been a vendor on the dark web i know some tricks on how they play out people ive seen it since 2011. No thanks ill use cain and PGB for now
 
all these people that complain about cain have been ripped off by a china vendor so they can save a few bucks and get ran off on every 6 months or a year froma china vendor
Ive been a vendor on the dark web i know some tricks on how they play out people ive seen it since 2011. No thanks ill use cain and PGB for now
I've only ever had 2 buys personally go bad. 1 was Tracy and it was very early in my time and could be attributed to me having bad expectations. The other was Cain sending mots-c that had many vial crimps practically falling off and the others giving me nasty ISR (that I don't get from PGB)

All the chinese vendors I buy from have been around longer than Cain and none have ever had a single vial with foreign material (let alone fucking around with the excipients...)

Also once again, we shit on EVERY vendor.
 
I've only ever had 2 buys personally go bad. 1 was Tracy and it was very early in my time and could be attributed to me having bad expectations. The other was Cain sending mots-c that had many vial crimps practically falling off and the others giving me nasty ISR (that I don't get from PGB)

All the chinese vendors I buy from have been around longer than Cain and none have ever had a single vial with foreign material (let alone fucking around with the excipients...)

Also once again, we shit on EVERY vendor.

Don't we have like a 40 page thread somewhere shitting on QSC? And we definitely have a few for SRY over the fent precursors. Did TUK ever get one for selling zero pep and not fixing it? Or did she just put all her social media on read only and everyone stopped giving her a platform?

The whole reason Cain's threads get so long is BECAUSE y'all allow the back and fourth between people who love him and people who hate him. It's not censorship when the posts and arguments are literally right there. And the second you make one criticism people come out of the woodwork to tell you how wrong you are and that you just have a vendetta against him. I refused to even talk about him for a while because it was so exhausting. And I was buying from him!

Well maybe the new keyword replacements are a bit of censorship. But I bet Zippity will let me get away with saying that. Because other than political BS and bigotry we get away with quite a lot.
 
Cain practically launched a spam war against this forum. So there's that.
As someone who is in his tele, and actually spent some time digging into his forum to find evidence of this (which I found nothing) I'd like to see what evidence you have to support this claim.

Outside of Zipppity's 200 new accounts and 76 have mentioned Alexa in the first 3 posts they have (which I do believe, not going to lie there) I haven't seen any other evidence of it. Since I've joined a couple weeks ago and have been browsing this forum for about a month prior to me making an account , one of the trending topics has always been about cain/Alexa and there have been times where 2 of the trending topics are cain/Alexa.

If you say Alexa is paying people to post for him, let me know so I can get my cash lmao
 
Yeah, I’m done with this place. lol

The way you guys respond to anyone even mentioning texaco is just wild. I get being skeptical, but acting like every single person talking about him is a shill? Come on. My post that got deleted objectively wasn’t shilling--I just shared my experience as a customer. Didn’t hype him up, didn’t even defend him (I literally said what he did with the NAD+ was fucked up), and still got treated like some idiot plant. That proves to me this "bad blood" you all have isn’t about texaco--it’s about you and whatever grudge you’re holding against Cain.

I’ve never even talked to Cain and I hang out in his Telegram all the time. I've never not a single time seen anyone encourage anyone else to tell anyone about texaco at all. No one has ever been incentivized to talk about texaco... I use his stuff, it works for me. Doesn’t work for you? Cool. But the way you go after anyone who disagrees makes this whole place look like a literal joke. People talk about it all the time (not in the texaco TG, either), a weird vendetta this whole forum has against one guy over something that happened forever ago and no one is even clear on what the gripe is. What, he didn’t give you his government name? What else do you want, his social security number? It’s legit bat shit crazy. I mean, you deleted my original reply because I "didn't introduce myself!" like bro what in the absolute fuck? You expect me to give you my A/S/L so we can all talk about the illegally imported and non-FDA approved peptides that we shoot up when this is a public forum that anyone can see without an account? The sheer stupidity of it is actually mind boggling.

And if you really hate "texaco shills," then why would you ban all talk about him on a forum made for discussing vendors and their products? Seems to me like you would want people to steer clear and encourage talk about how poor of a vendor he is (which would call the supposed shills and you could be like, see!) and by supplying more evidence than "I talked to him one time and he was kinda sketch!" But any mention of him is scrubbed and sanitized which even if he was a poor vendor doesn't do anyone any good...

I came here looking for alternative vendors to texaco, not to defend him at all (neither times I've posted), but how am I supposed to take anything anyone here says seriously when I know his stuff is good (because I use it), and all you do is trash it like it’s some scam without offering legitimate gripes.. Like what? His vials have overfill? He uses PayPal and you think that's stupid? From the testing circles I'm in texaco is tested more than any other friggin vendor I've seen and it doesn't even come close. If there was an issue with his products everyone would know about it and I wouldn't be buying from him either.

People aren’t as dumb as you're letting on. If his products were bad, they wouldn’t sell. But they do. And I think that’s what really bothers you. That your old beef doesn’t matter to anyone else, and it drives you nuts that people won’t hate him just because you do.

It’s embarrassing for you and I feel like this is gonna fall on deaf ears, but so be it I guess. I came here to learn about peptides and instead you completely shut down any and all want for me to be here and contribute because I had the balls to say "I've used texaco and they're fine for me."

like wtf.
I haven’t even bought from them, but your post is so spot on. I couldn’t agree more.
 
Did anyone else order from the last 30mg tirzy presale from scamsite? (Blue crimp/green cap)
I’ve had my kit for like two weeks now & still no COA has been posted for it?!
I emailed Cain at the beginning of the week and he said sometime during the week it should be posted but still nothing….
 
Speaking as one of the new arrivals here, who did not come from TikTok, I think the influx is mostly from TT as there was a big thread about it not to long ago. Another peptide forum is having some concerns about an influx of new arrivals that seemed to have found shortcuts to the endgame.

My two cents is this isn’t anything nefarious. He who shall not be named has a low barrier to entry compared to the other three letter vendors, he naturally picked up more business than the others. These new people, discovering everything through TTs then proceed to come here for more info after buying blindly as there is little to no barrier to entry here. In the process, they discuss him. That’s my guess as to what has happened as I’m on his telegram (and many others) and have never seen a “go shill for me” request.

All vendors have had problems, you just have to pick your poison. Some choose his, some choose others. We all have different metrics we are measuring against. Given that some vendors have such high walls to access testing info because of server access, being overly cautious, or purchase walls, others that do have that access may forget the benefits they have over others without it. This tilts things towards easily visible testing communities, of which, he who shall not be named is one of them. Correlation does not equal causation.

In full disclosure, I have bought from a total of 4 vendors and he who shall not be named is one of them.
 
Outside of Zipppity's 200 new accounts and 76 have mentioned texaco in the first 3 posts they have (which I do believe, not going to lie there) I haven't seen any other evidence of it.

At a minimum, Cain's MO is to dodge responsibility, play the victim, and let his customers defend his inaction.
 
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I actually was reading his telegram this morning. Somebody in the Q&A area mentioned something about getting a discount for putting out a good word. The mod answered something to this degree,"We don't pay people to put out a good word for us or we don't do that here and yatatah........" You get the idea. If something is wrong, especially the NAD and even the cardboard specs in the vial, I will agree, and I do. I, myself, have never had any problem with their product when I ordered from him. I think every vendor slips up from time to time. It just depends on who and which week, and that's the one who will get shitted on. Are these odd findings good? No! This is the chance we all take. All these vendors who were brought up in this conversation are not "state nor FDA" approved. Everyone has their own opinion and I think for the most part, it's being spoken.
 
Got my tracking from scamsite yesterday for the T30 preorder. Just received an email stating my order will be in tomorrow.

From my understanding there will be a QR code I can scan to check up on the COA for the batch I will receive?! Can someone please confirm this?

I am also receiving my first order of CJC+ Impa as well as an order of Hospita Bac water tomorrow 😊

But why do I feel like I need to order more stuff 🤣 I may have a new addiction 😩
Welcome to the darkside
 
Speaking as one of the new arrivals here, who did not come from TikTok, I think the influx is mostly from TT as there was a big thread about it not to long ago. Another peptide forum is having some concerns about an influx of new arrivals that seemed to have found shortcuts to the endgame.

My two cents is this isn’t anything nefarious. He who shall not be named has a low barrier to entry compared to the other three letter vendors, he naturally picked up more business than the others. These new people, discovering everything through TTs then proceed to come here for more info after buying blindly as there is little to no barrier to entry here. In the process, they discuss him. That’s my guess as to what has happened as I’m on his telegram (and many others) and have never seen a “go shill for me” request.

All vendors have had problems, you just have to pick your poison. Some choose his, some choose others. We all have different metrics we are measuring against. Given that some vendors have such high walls to access testing info because of server access, being overly cautious, or purchase walls, others that do have that access may forget the benefits they have over others without it. This tilts things towards easily visible testing communities, of which, he who shall not be named is one of them. Correlation does not equal causation.

In full disclosure, I have bought from a total of 4 vendors and he who shall not be named is one of them.
I'm not on the "he's paying shills to come here" train. But I'm also aware that it's a fact he got his start with shilling. That's why we call him BabaCain.

But its also a fact that there has been a wave of brand new accounts who don't know anything and have only bought from SPC/SNP/NXP/EZP/whatever name he's calling himself at the moment. What people are missing is that reputation is EVERYTHING in this hobby. Both with a vendor and with each other. So 100 brand new people sharing completely uninformed opinions isn't just meaningless, it's actively harmful.



I haven’t even bought from them, but your post is so spot on. I couldn’t agree more.
You came back to tell us you're leaving? Go back to your swamp lol.
 
I'm not on the "he's paying shills to come here" train. But I'm also aware that it's a fact he got his start with shilling. That's why we call him BabaCain.

But its also a fact that there has been a wave of brand new accounts who don't know anything and have only bought from SPC/SNP/NXP/EZP/whatever name he's calling himself at the moment. What people are missing is that reputation is EVERYTHING in this hobby. Both with a vendor and with each other. So 100 brand new people sharing completely uninformed opinions isn't just meaningless, it's actively harmful.




You came back to tell us you're leaving? Go back to your swamp lol.
I was agreeing with their perspective. Didn’t say I was leaving. Come back? I never left. I just spend more time on discord. Is becoming a moderator going to your head?
 
Jeez, everybody relax.

Don't make me start changing every other word to Xanax.

I think it's time for this thread and everyone in it to take a break so I'm closing it down.

Fortunately, the problematic new members and posts have pretty much completely dried up in the past ~48 hours so I've had some more time to keep up with post moderation and getting some chuckles making everyone tell us how much they love their COCAINE.
 
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