Soooo.... Ive lost a lot of weight, and have gotten a lil judgmental.

[sheilarae74]

Are you taking enclomiphene? I heard you get vision damage with that one.

Nah, I'm half blind as it is. 🤣

 

[Smiter]

Nah, I'm half blind as it is.

Aah so that explains this.

No matter how thin I get, I will always be a fat girl in my own eyes

😈 😉 😈 😎

 

[GLP1Pharmacist]

[QUOTE="BlueDog55, post: 177798, member

I kinda get mad at the parents because if a kid is Obese it is the parents fault. Oh and I hate seeing the shopping cart full of garbage food. But I keep it inside because I know it's not my business.
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I honestly don't think it's that simple, certainly carts full of garbage food is one thing , but I think that really misses the likely inherent genetics and metabolic makeup portion. I'm guessing there's plenty of people on here whose parents never wanted them to be fat , parents maybe weren't fat themselves , but kids/us ended up being way over weight.

 

[Bunnyfoofoo]

I know I'm not obese anymore, but in my head, I still think I'm fat...I keep navigating towards Larges or XL shirts when I'm wearing mediums. Same with pants, I try on 12s...too baggy. 10s too baggy...and I can't wrap my head around being in a size 8

I remember having this same experience with clothing sizes when I lost 60lbs on adderal in my 30s. Can't wait to have it happen again, frankly!

 

[AngieHolmes]

I wish it were easier to get people to at least consider GLP drugs, my son and his friend are both pretty overweight, and could really benefit from GLP's and skip the part where you do not do anything about it until after horrible health consequences ensue years later. But briefly mentioning it once is about as much as is socially acceptable if they are not interested

I'm in the same boat (isn't it amazing we both fit?). I haven't mentioned it to my adult son, but I think about it pretty often. He's now on bp medication and his weight has only gone up from there. His diet is mostly white flour and sugar, a lot of it. We have a lot of heart disease / premature deaths on my husband's side. He's needle-phobic, so if I ever do bring it up I'll mention the Foundayo pill.

 

[AngieHolmes]

Actually, being on GLP1s have made my anger at the system that has led to a society wide increase in weight across the last 40 years so much worse.

I am PISSED that we look at individuals instead of the society they live in. I am FURIOUS that we will shame and judge people walking down the street instead of pointing that judgement and shame at the corporations and society level living conditions that have created this situation.

Did you know that one of the stongest predictors of your BMI is the zip code you live in? And if you move, your weight will start to align with your new zip code. That is a SOCIETAL issue, not an individual one.

Furthermore, we have decades of data showing that it is functionally impossible to sustainably lose weight through "diet and exercise". More than 90% of people who attempt to lose weight will not only gain back the weight they lost but will gain MORE. This has shown true regardless of the diet or exercise plan. Yet we will shame and attack individuals at higher weights as if they are the problem.

Being on GLP1s have shown me that weight management was never about making "good choices" (the choices most of us made over and over and over and over and over again) and those people who maintained a lower weight were just biologically lucky-not hard working. They used the constant struggle and hard work of fat people to gain unearned priviledge and it makes me SO ANGRY that isn't being addressed-ever.

I will sing the praises of GLP1s from the rooftops and if anyone ever asks me I will flat out tell them that I am on a GLP1, I will always be on a GLP1, that GLP1s have a host of benefits beyond weight loss and they should probably look into the benefits. But I will NEVER shame a bigger individual because they probably work harder at managing their weight than I ever have or will ever in the future.

I think a lot of GLP1 hate comes from normal-weight or thin people who have smugly felt superior to fat people despite not doing more than fat people to eat right and exercise (which isn't a long-term solve for obesity, as you mentioned). They seem to have nothing else going on, but even at their lowest point they've always had ". . . well at least I'm not fat!" Demonizing US is their self-esteem hack.

And when that's taken away by a magic shot that makes us no different than them, they're quick to yell, "We don't know the long-term side effects (but I hope they're really really bad!)." They don't know what it's like to be fat or to try to lose/maintain, but they're sure good at coming up with nasty stereotypes that make them feel better. I wouldn't say I'm angry at them, but I am glad I don't spend my time shitting on people like they do.

 

[copepmuscle]

Same as when I quit smoking and then quit vaping.

I don't get it. You are not them and what do you care? I quit smoking. I don't care if I see smokers.

Same thing with seeing fat people. I live in the US we built a hundreds of billions dollar industry in getting and keeping people fat. Not just fast food but loads of candy and junk, advertising, whole cultural events around stuffing ourselves.

It took me multiple false starts, then a drug, then sourcing it through an illegal method, for me to control it. I don't see the point of putting my priorities or health concerns on others.

I'll be honest, I'm into bodybuilding and currently lean enough where I have veins running down my abs. I couldn't care less if anyone else is thin or 400lbs, it's their life. I use steroids, I used to drink a lot on the weekends, and I used to fight competitively so I'm sure I have some CTE, I've definitely had at least a dozen concussions, along with tons of other injuries. I have no room to judge anyone for unhealthy habits or lifestyles.

I know dry drunks who think alcohol was their problem and love to say everyone is an alcoholic who drinks. They still have all the same problems they had on alcohol just now sanctimonious about not drinking.

I think a lot of GLP1 hate comes from normal-weight or thin people who have smugly felt superior to fat people despite not doing more than fat people to eat right and exercise (which isn't a long-term solve for obesity, as you mentioned). They seem to have nothing else going on, but even at their lowest point they've always had ". . . well at least I'm not fat!" Demonizing US is their self-esteem hack.

And when that's taken away by a magic shot that makes us no different than them, they're quick to yell, "We don't know the long-term side effects (but I hope they're really really bad!)." They don't know what it's like to be fat or to try to lose/maintain, but they're sure good at coming up with nasty stereotypes that make them feel better. I wouldn't say I'm angry at them, but I am glad I don't spend my time shitting on people like they do.

You are just as sanctimonious though. You don't know thin people "smugly felt superior to fat people" that's you putting that into their head. I don't need reading glasses. I don't think "those sons of bitches with their laser eye surgery. I'm naturally better!" I know my father had readers I didn't think "he's got eye crutches haha I'm naturally better!".

 

[HouseCat]

I know you're either mostly kidding, or all the way kidding, but Jesus god promise me you'd never actually do that, and please nobody who is lurking and has terrible judgement and just thought "I'm gonna do that right now cause I saw it on the internet" do that. Imagine if someone who desperately wanted to be on a glp-1 but was contraindicated and heartbroken had that experience while they were out existing. Or someone who was a non responder, or someone who WAS on them and had already lost a hundred pounds but had a long way to go.

I hear you. My friend is very heavy and has been forever- both of us were overweight kids. It has taken a lot of therapy and work for her to feel worthy and valuable due to her weight and discrimination.

When I started losing on tirz, I wanted to be like "you've got to try this!!" and then I took a second to think...wait she's ON a GLP-1 already for diabetes. She doesn't respond regarding weight loss. It would have been crushing.

Even if I'd never wanted to be on meds, if someone handed me a card with info on how to lose, it would be devastating. Their good intentions wouldn't balance out that hey, here's ANOTHER person telling me I'm substandard because of my weight. At this point, I feel like most people know about GLP-1s and knows of someone either in their circle who's had success or know of people (Jim Gaffigan, Hollywood ladies). If they are not on them it's likely because they don't have access or don't want to be, and I can do nothing to change either scenario.

 

[endlrls]

I feel like a terrible person for it, but I have similar thoughts.

Usually the first one is, "They must not be able to afford Lilly prices," probably because that's the only reason I took as long as I did to get on it. My second thought is, "I should tell them about gray!" My third thought is, "Nobody wants some rando in Kohl's walking up to them and saying, 'You must not be on Glp-1s because you can't afford them. But wait! What if you could afford them?? I can tell you how to purchase GLPs right from the comfort of your home, for less than $5 a week. That's right, less than the price of cup of coffee! And it's only semi-illegal!" Finally, I tell myself, " WTF, you judgy bitch! There are plenty of other reasons someone might not be taking it." And I walk to my car in shame.

Sadly, it doesn't even occur to me that maybe they've already started and just aren't at goal yet, like @randompersonrandom mentioned. 😔 It definitely should though, because that's my mother-in-law's current situation.

Nobody wants some Rando in Kohl's... Haha

 

[HouseCat]

I truly wish these drugs had been around when I was in my 20's or 30's or 40's or even teens, I got offered different sorts of drugs, which did not work out as well.

OMG yes. I took so many diet pills, green tea, raspberry ketones whatever the F Dr. Oz and counterparts said was THE THING to lose weight, just wasting money on a dream.

I used an app to calculate how much each pound has cost me to lose with tirz..$38 (I'm 4 months in, 25lb down) and made beginner choices about where to buy. No shame about it, I was and am still learning. And it's been worth EVERY dollar!

 

[Robte71]

I want to walk up and hand them a vial of reta and whisper in their ear. "Take this and be healthy" lol.

 

[oldjarhead]

OMG yes. I took so many diet pills, green tea, raspberry ketones whatever the F Dr. Oz and counterparts said was THE THING to lose weight, just wasting money on a dream.

I used an app to calculate how much each pound has cost me to lose with tirz..$38 (I'm 4 months in, 25lb down) and made beginner choices about where to buy. No shame about it, I was and am still learning. And it's been worth EVERY dollar!

You got this. We have all been lied to all of our lives. I do not fault people like doc oz, he is only going off the info he was fed and believes to be true. This reset, revolt, has got me motivated more than ever. Stay motivated and keep learning with researching "you".

 

[HereKittyKitty]

I find myself remembering what it felt like to be invisible and the mental weight of frustration I carried. I make an effort - where appropriate - to let people know they are visible and to be kind. They don't need pity, no one does. People need kindness, not just HWP people.

 

[UpDownLeftRightAS*]

Maintain your empathy, have honest conversations with yourself. Know Thyself.